Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[acm]

A pity he didn't try once to get in the break today. They could've killed UAE if he and Pidcock somehow managed to get in it.

He tried once, but Pogi controlled him.

 

[Gargamel35]

Interesting words from the main massage guy of Ineos. He's Slovenian by the way.

He talked about how they work and this years TdF for Slovenian podcast.

He said Ineos is happy with how they raced so far and they plan to fight for third place with Thomas as their nr. 1 guy. Oh and if you didn't know, average massage takes 1,5 to 2 hours a day and it's not comfortable for a rider or massage guy.

After being asked if they don't plan to attack for better place, he said they will try but reality is, there are two riders that can destroy anyone else on the race and whole Ineos team. Pogačar and Roglič. Now when Roglič is hurt, Ineos is worried he'll get better and attack 3rd place in GC.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

He also said he expects nothing any more from this race and he'll go day by day. Perhaps JV already told him, he will work for new golden boy.

Going by interviews from WVA and Zeeman it does indeed look that way.

 

[TheOkram]

Today TV Slovenia finally obtained a few words from Roglič after the Stage 10.

"I am happy that this was not the most difficult stage. This came in very convenient after the resting day. I am definitely happy. I came a little further than last year, therefore I am optimistic."

Commenting on tomorrow's Stage 11:

"It's already hot and it will remain so. For sure I will try to re-live [my winning the Galibier stage 5 yrs ago] and to gain energy, because I have very nice memories of the area where we are heading tomorrow. I will definitely have a good time."

Could he atttack already on the penultimate climb of the day, "his" Galibier?

"Yes, I will be free to attack, I always am."

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Today TV Slovenia finally obtained a few words from Roglič after the Stage 10.

"I am happy that this was not the most difficult stage. This came in very convenient after the resting day. I am definitely happy. I came a little further than last year, therefore I am optimistic."

Commenting on tomorrow's Stage 11:

"It's already hot and it will remain so. For sure I will try to re-live [my winning the Galibier stage 5 yrs ago] and to gain energy, because I have very nice memories of the area where we are heading tomorrow. I will definitely have a good time."

Could he atttack already on the penultimate climb of the day, "his" Galibier?

"Yes, I will be free to attack, I always am."

Primoz will make it epic on Galibier. Pog will chase him and both will leave Vinge in the dust.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Before todays stage, Roglič said, the pain is still there but it feels much better.

But how are the sensations?

 

[Red Rick]

But how are the sensations?

2009 Contador perched on one shoulder, 2012 Froome on the other. One tells him to crush them fools, the other tells him to wait and just make angry gestures.

Which will he follow

 

[Gargamel35]

I don't believe for a second he got a free pass on doing anything he wants. At least as long Jonas is that close to Pogačar.

He will probably get a chance to attack, Pogačar will follow with Jonas on the wheel and then Jonas attacks Pogačar. We all know Roglič is too injured to do much more and Pogačar will destroy Jonas soon after.

 

[Gargamel35]

And I think there is no way Pogačar let's Roglič ride away on his own. He knows he can beat Jonas any time. And he knows Roglič is too dangerous not to cover him even with 3 minutes down. That's a hell of a statement how good Roglič is.

 

[Red Rick]

Anyone watch today who can confirm that Pogacar was marking Roglic when Rog just went for a piss break?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

"Yes, I will be free to attack, I always am."

No risk, no glory

 

[Bonimenier]

No risk, no glory

That motto would have been great today. He should have tried as Pidcock did.

Tomorrow Roglic should be Sky Porte for Vingegaard.

 

[Elos Anjos]

That motto would have been great today. He should have tried as Pidcock did.

Tomorrow Roglic should be Sky Porte for Vingegaard.

No.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

2009 Contador perched on one shoulder, 2012 Froome on the other. One tells him to crush them fools, the other tells him to wait and just make angry gestures.

Which will he follow

I was thinking of a very similar situation. 2017 Vuelta Contador is perched on one shoulder, 2018 Giro Froome on the other. One tells him to attack attack attack and try to make some magic, the other tells him to wait like am injured snake in the grass.

Which will he follow

So far he's in the grass and but we will see tomorrow

 

[Sciatic]

I'm sure Vingo wouldn't mind though.

Yes, of course it’s a victory worth celebrating —it would be an amazing achievement and a forever legacy. And unlike something like, for example, an Omi-Opi takedown, there MAY be some elements of COVID positives (some teams having more than others) that have to do with team protocols and planning, just as having the right tires and gearing for a particular stage are part of proactive prep. Yeah, there is obviously a HUGE random component to getting COVID, but maybe not only that. To whit: when the NFL ran their restrictive 2020 pandemic seasons with no fans and strict testing protocols, some teams were extremely handicapped because they had so many positives that entire parts of their offense (receiving corps or quarterbacks for example) had to sit out games. Several teams would have lost games if the NFL didn’t bail them out by rescheduling. Some teams had 20-plus positives. The Seattle Seahawks, by contrast, had zero positives the entire 4-month season. They had strict protocols, but more importantly, full team buy-in. Who’s to say there wouldn’t be similar differences between teams at the Tour? And, no I can’t think that’s likely—just saying we can’t rule that out.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is Jumbo number five.

 

[Red Rick]

Van Aert brought Rogla back

 

[Rackham]

Van Aert brought Rogla back

One week late & with a whip, I think. Basically a message from the team "Get to work" etc.

Meh, what a sh*t TdF. Well done Jonas Vingegaard. Clearly a step up from last year.

 

[Bonimenier]

Clearly better for JV when Roglic is on donkey duty

 

[Bonimenier]

One week late & with a whip, I think. Basically a message from the team "Get to work" etc.

Meh, what a sh*t TdF. Well done Jonas Vingegaard. Clearly a step up from last year.

If anything today showed it was absolutely the right move of JV to let van Aert ride for Vingegaard on the cobbles stage and not drop back to the Slovenian Heras.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Insane performance by Roglic today. What a teamplayer. He's a year or two off his absolute peak and had some complications with the crash, so he knows he cannot win, but he used himself as a decoy instead to tire Pogacar. Perfectly played by Rogla, this is what you want from your big stars.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Clearly better for JV when Roglic is on donkey duty

He is on dunkey duty because he crashed.

 

[Bonimenier]

He is on dunkey duty because he crashed.

Why he is on donkey duty is irrelevant. That it clearly is the best thing for JV when he is on donkey duty is what's important. Lesson learnt for the future.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Why he is on donkey duty is irrelevant. That it clearly is the best thing for JV when he is on donkey duty is what's important. Lesson learnt for the future.

Teams adapt rider's profile to the outcomes of stages. Roglic is a champion whose talent would be wasted if he always worked as a donkey.

No point talking with you. Bye.

 

[Rackham]

I'm not responding to a trollish posts per se, but in terms of Roglic riding as a domestique, what's the point anymore? He's so far down on GC now there's no more two pronged attacks. He shot those bullets & now he's done.

He's injured as well. So "riding in support of Jonas" (considering the stregnth of the rest of the team) is just a label now, not an actual benefit for Jumbo on the road. They had one shot & maximized it today. Pogacar didn't know whether Roglic was okay or not so he had to follow. Now he won't, no one else will either.

As a GT champion himself with his own ambitions, Roglic now has to do what's best for his own career (looking beyond this TdF).