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Do you mean he is going to do a vuelta 22 now that he can’t win and take out some sprinters?All this doom & gloom, i.e. is this a funeral already?
I'm just looking forwards to tomorrow's stage. I think he'll match the best there.
What do you mean with no teammates? Vlasov and Hindley were both with him…he didn’t have the legs … plain and simpleRogla was badly placed at the bottom of the mountain & with no teammates to support him.....
Not good
Besides that, on that gradients, teammates are not helpful.What do you mean with no teammates? Vlasov and Hindley were both with him…he didn’t have the legs … plain and simple
What do you mean with no teammates? Vlasov and Hindley were both with him…he didn’t have the legs … plain and simple
Onwards & hopefully upwards.
Definitely upwards, 2642 m on Tuesday.
I mean if he looks relaxed, I guess I should be as well.
View: https://x.com/RBH_ProCycling/status/1807445357946716550
I reiterate he looks super thin though. Maybe it's the lighting & angle but this is probably the leanest I've seen him.
yeah he does. maybe he will surprise us in the high mountains.
Its not really about the timeloss, but rather him looking so relatively bad on such a climb. He was worse than 21 seconds at the top.
I guess we can stop talking about the race completely then. What a bunch of nonsense - of course people are gonna speculate and analyze (you including, when it fits your agenda..) based on what we have seen and what then might happen based on what we have seen. Thats only normal - especially on a cycling forum.And that's a pretty pointless conversation to have because we'll find out soon enough.
I touched on this issue in a previous post, i.e. drawing absolute conclusions after a couple of stages. People can write whatever they want & make the predictions they want but at the end of the day, we'll see on the road what the real truth is.
Until then & until it gets worse, it's just 21 seconds.
It’s also that he likely can’t afford to give up *any* time unexpectedly or on terrain that shouldn’t result in losses. This was a huge blow IMO
I'm not sure that's what Rackham meant. Just that it's early to draw such definitive conclusions as saying he definitely won't make it to the podium or even inside the top 5 or whatever. It don't look good, that's for sure, but it's also just stage 2.I guess we can stop talking about the race completely then. What a bunch of nonsense - of course people are gonna speculate and analyze (you including, when it fits your agenda..) based on what we have seen and what then might happen based on what we have seen. Thats only normal - especially on a cycling forum.
I guess we can stop talking about the race completely then. What a bunch of nonsense - of course people are gonna speculate and analyze (you including, when it fits your agenda..) based on what we have seen and what then might happen based on what we have seen. Thats only normal - especially on a cycling forum.
Again, this is what a forum is for. We watch the races, we comment, we analyze etc. Ofc we don't know what's gonna happen, but Roglic looking like this while Jonas was better than expected has lowered his chances of winning overall. And then of course there's the lost time on top of that which isn't a big deal, but still obviously mean something.This isn't exactly an accurate portrayal of cycling conversations - mine included.
The conversation about today's stage ends tomorrow & will be completely forgotten on Tuesday. The truth is we've been here before many times. On Bejes in the Vuelta last year the 'narrative' in the ensuing hours was about how Rog wasn't even as good as Ayuso & Mas on a climb which 'suited him'. Guess what? 24 later he won on the Angliru.
Rog is simply a very difficult rider categorise. They call him a puncheur yet he doesn't win classics on punchy terrain (except San Luca, ironically). They say he can't manage long climbs yet wins on the Angliru & was second best on Loze 4 years ago. Etc etc. This works in reverse as well i.e. everyone said LPDBF was going to be a cakewalk & guess what? He exploded.
I mean jumping into the conversation with a "he should be good in stage 2 so this means he's doomed" opinion is pretty much trivial. You haven't got any idea how this race is going to go, i.e. for anyone (except Pog because even with the Giro in his legs he should be his usual self in this Tour).
Anyone who says right here & right now "this is how the race will end" is simply fantasizing. It would be the same if Rog had done well today & people had jumped to conclusions about that afterwards. It cuts both ways.