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[CyclistAbi]

Roglic verso il Giro: serenità e grinta. A tu per tu con Gasparotto

Gasparotto racconta il cammino di Roglic verso il Giro: sereno, determinato e già vincente. E dopo c’è anche il Tour nel mirino

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Numbers show that Rogla, whenever doing a double, won the second GT. Now that is some brilliant tactics right there if you ask me!

 

[AmRacer]

Roglic verso il Giro: serenità e grinta. A tu per tu con Gasparotto

Gasparotto racconta il cammino di Roglic verso il Giro: sereno, determinato e già vincente. E dopo c’è anche il Tour nel mirino

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Numbers show that Rogla, whenever doing a double, won the second GT. Now that is some brilliant tactics right there if you ask me!

After crashing out of the first.

 

[CyclistAbi]

After crashing out of the first.

Actually there were a lot of scenarios involved and although most of the times he did the reality is Rogla didn't win the second GT all the times. A couple of times he was crashed out by some other rider, that much is true, but looking beyond that he often came in third and first, second and first, first and third ... Crazy numbers and achievements in terms of GT double racing and results. Nobody else in current peloton comes remotely close.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Actually there were a lot of scenarios involved and although most of the times he did the reality is Rogla didn't win the second GT all the times. A couple of times he was crashed out by some other rider, that much is true, but looking beyond that he often came in third and first, second and first, first and third ... Crazy numbers and achievements in terms of GT double racing and results. Nobody else in current peloton comes remotely close.

Roglic only crashed out of GC in his second Grand Tour once, when he rode into the back of Wright’s elbow after Wright passed Roglic. The other time was when Roglic was blocked by Visma and Kuss won. On this Tour his shape should have him fighting for third against Evenepoel barring something happen to Pogacar and/or Vingegaard.

 

[AmRacer]

Roglic only crashed out of GC in his second Grand Tour once, when he rode into the back of Wright’s elbow after Wright passed Roglic. The other time was when Roglic was blocked by Visma and Kuss won. On this Tour his shape should have him fighting for third against Evenepoel barring something happen to Pogacar and/or Vingegaard.

Winning the Giro and third in the Tour, that's something. And lots of what ifs.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Winning the Giro and third in the Tour, that's something. And lots of what ifs.

It’d be a good year with VaC and however many stages he wins at the Grand Tours. Plus whatever happens in the fall. Maybe he performs better without the Vuelta in his legs.

 

[CyclistAbi]

This narrative, on how supposedly Pogi and Jonas (and i guess Remco) are unbeatable at the Tour, time to put that one to rest. It was a nice rivalry, though, while it lasted.

 

[Berniece]

This narrative, on how supposedly Pogi and Jonas (and i guess Remco) are unbeatable at the Tour, time to put that one to rest. It was a nice rivalry, though, while it lasted.

If Roglic can show he can stay on the bike and win the TDF, sure then it can be put to rest, but now? What did Roglic do to deserve that?

 

[Cycling111]

This narrative, on how supposedly Pogi and Jonas (and i guess Remco) are unbeatable at the Tour, time to put that one to rest. It was a nice rivalry, though, while it lasted.

TDF has historically been a duel between two riders; it hasn't even been that common for it to be a three-favorite race. And here it's even being suggested that it be a four-favorite race (Pogacar, Vingegaard, Remco, Roglic)
If you look at the history of the TFF, usually it's been a two riders duel.

Regarding Roglic, do you think he can fight to win the Tour by doing a Giro-Tour?
I think it's very difficult at his age.

If I'm not mistaken, the oldest rider to achieve this feat was 33, Coppi in the 50s decade.
Hinault, who won 5 TDF, with 30, and the rest with less than 30.

Doubling the Giro-Tour isn't easy. Few have won it in the same year.
It took 26 years from 1998 to 2024.

If it is so difficult, would Roglic achieve it, being 4 years older than Coppi and 6 years older than Hinault, who was a dominator of the TDF?
And against two riders who have been more dominant in the TDF, Hinault was the dominant one, not his rivals.

I really like Roglic, but if he does the Giro, I'm assuming he's implicitly giving up on winning the TDF.
It's not the same situation as Pogacar; he's almost 10 years younger, had two TDFs and two second-place.
Giro will surely penalize Roglic for the Tour (9 years older than Pogacar), he knows it, but he accepts it because he knows he's not even the second favorite for the Tour.

 

[Red Rick]

TDF has historically been a duel between two riders; it hasn't even been that common for it to be a three-favorite race. And here it's even being suggested that it be a four-favorite race (Pogacar, Vingegaard, Remco, Roglic)
If you look at the history of the TFF, usually it's been a two riders duel.

Regarding Roglic, do you think he can fight to win the Tour by doing a Giro-Tour?
I think it's very difficult at his age.

If I'm not mistaken, the oldest rider to achieve this feat was 33, Coppi in the 50s decade.
Hinault, who won 5 TDF, with 30, and the rest with less than 30.

Doubling the Giro-Tour isn't easy. Few have won it in the same year.
It took 26 years from 1998 to 2024.

If it is so difficult, would Roglic achieve it, being 4 years older than Coppi and 6 years older than Hinault, who was a dominator of the TDF?
And against two riders who have been more dominant in the TDF, Hinault was the dominant one, not his rivals.

I really like Roglic, but if he does the Giro, I'm assuming he's implicitly giving up on winning the TDF.
It's not the same situation as Pogacar; he's almost 10 years younger, had two TDFs and two second-place.
Giro will surely penalize Roglic for the Tour (9 years older than Pogacar), he knows it, but he accepts it because he knows he's not even the second favorite for the Tour.

The problem with winning the TdF after the Giro is like 98% that he's not winning the TdF if he skips the Giro.

I'm quite optimistic he can be at his best in the Tour, it just won't be good enough normally

 

[CyclistAbi]

If Roglic can show he can stay on the bike and win the TDF, sure then it can be put to rest, but now? What did Roglic do to deserve that?

Rogla basically won everything bar the Tour, on where his best result is a runner up. After a rather difficult Tour era, on where Rogla didn't ride it altogether or DNF, last finish dating back to 2020 season, being phased out as a Tour leader by his former team, after a rather successful transitional year to his new team, Rogla is now back in the position to realistically win the Tour, as a lead for Red Bull. A team that is reasonably homogeneous now and has the roster to take on any team.

TDF has historically been a duel between two riders; it hasn't even been that common for it to be a three-favorite race. And here it's even being suggested that it be a four-favorite race (Pogacar, Vingegaard, Remco, Roglic)
If you look at the history of the TFF, usually it's been a two riders duel.

Regarding Roglic, do you think he can fight to win the Tour by doing a Giro-Tour?
I think it's very difficult at his age.

If I'm not mistaken, the oldest rider to achieve this feat was 33, Coppi in the 50s decade.
Hinault, who won 5 TDF, with 30, and the rest with less than 30.

Doubling the Giro-Tour isn't easy. Few have won it in the same year.
It took 26 years from 1998 to 2024.

If it is so difficult, would Roglic achieve it, being 4 years older than Coppi and 6 years older than Hinault, who was a dominator of the TDF?
And against two riders who have been more dominant in the TDF, Hinault was the dominant one, not his rivals.

I really like Roglic, but if he does the Giro, I'm assuming he's implicitly giving up on winning the TDF.
It's not the same situation as Pogacar; he's almost 10 years younger, had two TDFs and two second-place.
Giro will surely penalize Roglic for the Tour (9 years older than Pogacar), he knows it, but he accepts it because he knows he's not even the second favorite for the Tour.

Well, Rogla is no stranger to that, through his career in lets say last half a decade he was consistently considered to at least be a podium contender at the Tour. From main favourite to that fluctuating a bit in between podium contenders, depends on who you asked.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Well I think he still does have the raw numbers ( e.g. last year he did 7watts/kg for 23 minutes on the Vuelta) to minimum podium but also offer a great fight against Pogi and Vingo on the Tour.


The thing is he is always crashing

 

[CyclistAbi]

@James M

Born ready.

@Lorzenz08

Only due to trademark.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Well I think he still does have the raw numbers ( e.g. last year he did 7watts/kg for 23 minutes on the Vuelta) to minimum podium but also offer a great fight against Pogi and Vingo on the Tour.


The thing is he is always crashing

2024 Vuelta Roglic has the raw numbers to compete with 2023 Vingegaard and Pogacar, but unfortunately 2024 Pogacar leveled up significantly from that. So to compete, Pogacar either has to perform well below that level (unlikely, from what we we’ve seen recently), there needs to be some sort of misfortune or event Roglic can take advantage of, like an echelon, crash, illness, etc. (likelier to be the other way around, based on history), or Roglic needs to have leveled up again this year at an unlikely age. Just being a realist here, as a Roglic fan. I give him a non zero chance of winning of course, but I don’t see him riding away from Pogacar and Vingegaard in normal circumstances.

 

[EllaChimp]

Here's a few more photos I took of Rogla on stage during the team sign in before stage 7 of Paris-Nice last year.

https://imgur.com/KwLw9Uw

View: https://imgur.com/KwLw9Uw

https://imgur.com/VsJ0YiU

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https://imgur.com/SwGXLFU

View: https://imgur.com/SwGXLFU

https://imgur.com/VCxeB9m

View: https://imgur.com/VCxeB9m

 

[EllaChimp]

Btw, is there a thread for us specifically to share our photos of various pro-cyclists? If not, should I create one?

 

[Gwbert]

2024 Vuelta Roglic has the raw numbers to compete with 2023 Vingegaard and Pogacar, but unfortunately 2024 Pogacar leveled up significantly from that. So to compete, Pogacar either has to perform well below that level (unlikely, from what we we’ve seen recently), there needs to be some sort of misfortune or event Roglic can take advantage of, like an echelon, crash, illness, etc. (likelier to be the other way around, based on history), or Roglic needs to have leveled up again this year at an unlikely age. Just being a realist here, as a Roglic fan. I give him a non zero chance of winning of course, but I don’t see him riding away from Pogacar and Vingegaard in normal circumstances.

While I can’t see him riding away on a long mountain I can definitely see a stomp or a chance of a stomp if the right circumstances allow.

 

[Berniece]

Rogla basically won everything bar the Tour, on where his best result is a runner up. After a rather difficult Tour era, on where Rogla didn't ride it altogether or DNF, last finish dating back to 2020 season, being phased out as a Tour leader by his former team, after a rather successful transitional year to his new team, Rogla is now back in the position to realistically win the Tour, as a lead for Red Bull. A team that is reasonably homogeneous now and has the roster to take on any team.

I think we live in different realities then /jk

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think we live in different realities then /jk

In Abi universe Rogla is an unbeatable beast when he decides not to crash (which he does for fun BTW, still missing moments in the air from ski-jumping times)

 

[pablohidalgo7]

People still don't understand Roglic's absolute predatory mentality. He doesn't race to finish second, as Gasparotto claims in that interview. If he's scheduled the Giro-Tour double, it's because he thinks he can be at his best in both (and moreover arrive in France with less stres if he wins in Italy), a bit like Pogacar last year. Maybe he will only will finish third (or even fourth) even if everything goes perfectly and he doesn't crash. But I'm sure he's thinking about being completely competitive in both and isn't going to go to the Tour for stages or breakaways.

In fact, I wouldn't rule out that his plan (however crazy it may seem given his age) is something like being 95% fit for the Giro and 100% fit for the Tour.

 

[CyclistAbi]

2024 Vuelta Roglic has the raw numbers to compete with 2023 Vingegaard and Pogacar, but unfortunately 2024 Pogacar leveled up significantly from that. So to compete, Pogacar either has to perform well below that level (unlikely, from what we we’ve seen recently), there needs to be some sort of misfortune or event Roglic can take advantage of, like an echelon, crash, illness, etc. (likelier to be the other way around, based on history), or Roglic needs to have leveled up again this year at an unlikely age.

When it comes to age, at the Flèche finish line it became apparent Pogi is biologically 10 years older, his style of racing, although indulging to the fans, is not all that forgiving. Jonas is nearing early thirties, Rogla in mid thirties, the same as Pogi. Remco is still a young gun but as such the lack of experience cost him much.

Beyond that i feel that they are not all that keen to allow, next decade or so, any other rider to join the exclusive top 4 stage racers club, they got it covered.

While I can’t see him riding away on a long mountain I can definitely see a stomp or a chance of a stomp if the right circumstances allow.

There are so many tools in the toolbox that just about anything is possible.

I think we live in different realities then /jk

I am just trying to be objective here.

In Abi universe Rogla is an unbeatable beast when he decides not to crash (which he does for fun BTW, still missing moments in the air from ski-jumping times)

True powerhouse.

@pablohidalgo7

So true.

 

[gregrowlerson]

For a rider who won LBL, it baffles me as to why Rogla has raced LBL, Lombardia and Fleche more. As for RVV and PR, given that I would assume more versatile riders such as Nibali and Valverde never accomplished much in either, then any suggestion that Roglic should give them a go appears a little ludicrous, especially at his age.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Primoz Roglic on Instagram: "Into the clouds☁️ Heading to rest day with syuk foto📸🤗 #cycling #cyclinglife #cyclisme #cyclingphotos #tenerife #masca #mascatenerife #redbullborahansgrohe"

21K likes, 67 comments - primozroglic on April 26, 2025: "Into the clouds☁️ Heading to rest day with syuk foto📸🤗 #cycling #cyclinglife #cyclisme #cyclingphotos #tenerife #masca #mascatenerife #redbullborahansgrohe".

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Looks ready for Giro (and Tour).

 

[Oldman]

People still don't understand Roglic's absolute predatory mentality. He doesn't race to finish second, as Gasparotto claims in that interview. If he's scheduled the Giro-Tour double, it's because he thinks he can be at his best in both (and moreover arrive in France with less stres if he wins in Italy), a bit like Pogacar last year. Maybe he will only will finish third (or even fourth) even if everything goes perfectly and he doesn't crash. But I'm sure he's thinking about being completely competitive in both and isn't going to go to the Tour for stages or breakaways.

In fact, I wouldn't rule out that his plan (however crazy it may seem given his age) is something like being 95% fit for the Giro and 100% fit for the Tour.

His Catalunya suggested he was on the right fitness path for the Giro. You're correct, if the Tour is the long range prize; 95% for Giro is good for the start. The Tour is still about 3rd week fitness for any contender and that is an unknown for his age. Being a killer mentally doesn't necessarily help, though.

People still don't understand Roglic's absolute predatory mentality. He doesn't race to finish second, as Gasparotto claims in that interview. If he's scheduled the Giro-Tour double, it's because he thinks he can be at his best in both (and moreover arrive in France with less stres if he wins in Italy), a bit like Pogacar last year. Maybe he will only will finish third (or even fourth) even if everything goes perfectly and he doesn't crash. But I'm sure he's thinking about being completely competitive in both and isn't going to go to the Tour for stages or breakaways.

In fact, I wouldn't rule out that his plan (however crazy it may seem given his age) is something like being 95% fit for the Giro and 100% fit for the Tour.

People still don't understand Roglic's absolute predatory mentality. He doesn't race to finish second, as Gasparotto claims in that interview. If he's scheduled the Giro-Tour double, it's because he thinks he can be at his best in both (and moreover arrive in France with less stres if he wins in Italy), a bit like Pogacar last year. Maybe he will only will finish third (or even fourth) even if everything goes perfectly and he doesn't crash. But I'm sure he's thinking about being completely competitive in both and isn't going to go to the Tour for stages or breakaways.

In fact, I wouldn't rule out that his plan (however crazy it may seem given his age) is something like being 95% fit for the Giro and 100% fit for the Tour.

 

[acm]

Primoz Roglic on Instagram: "Into the clouds☁️ Heading to rest day with syuk foto📸🤗 #cycling #cyclinglife #cyclisme #cyclingphotos #tenerife #masca #mascatenerife #redbullborahansgrohe"

21K likes, 67 comments - primozroglic on April 26, 2025: "Into the clouds☁️ Heading to rest day with syuk foto📸🤗 #cycling #cyclinglife #cyclisme #cyclingphotos #tenerife #masca #mascatenerife #redbullborahansgrohe".

www.instagram.com

Looks ready for Giro (and Tour).

Looking really sharp.