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I guess he has proven me wrong about his performance over 250 km in the past few weeks.

Amazing how he lost a race everybody thought he'd already won, and won a race he had basically lost 50 metres to the finish line.
The beauty of cycling.
 
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He needed this win badly. I think he wasn't in a happy place mentally in the last couple of weeks. After crashing out of the Dauphine when in the leader jersey before the last stage, after how he lost the Tour again in the last stage and after being the target of insinuations and insults by Belgian media and public after the Worlds...this, this was the perfect cure. Of course he was lucky as hell there. But just to be able to put himself in a position to fight for the victory in such a demanding race after all that happened to him lately, shows the magnetude of this rider's character.

This was arguably his biggest win. Or is his Vuelta win unquestionably rated higher, what do you think?
 
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johnymax said:
He needed this win badly. I think he wasn't in a happy place mentally in the last couple of weeks. After crashing out of the Dauphine when in the leader jersey before the last stage, after how he lost the Tour again in the last stage and after being the target of insinuations and insults by Belgian media and public after the Worlds...this, this was the perfect cure. Of course he was lucky as hell there. But just to be able to put himself in a position to fight for the victory in such a demanding race after all that happened to him lately, shows the magnetude of this rider's character.

This was arguably his biggest win. Or is his Vuelta win unquestionably rated higher, what do you think?
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Vuelta win is more of an achivement. Much less people have what it takes to win a GT than a classic.
 
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Vuelta win for me. The number of instances of a monument being won by a rider not among the 5 strongest on the day is far higher than Grand Tours won by a rider not one of the top 2/3 strongest.
 
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johnymax said:
He needed this win badly. I think he wasn't in a happy place mentally in the last couple of weeks. After crashing out of the Dauphine when in the leader jersey before the last stage, after how he lost the Tour again in the last stage and after being the target of insinuations and insults by Belgian media and public after the Worlds...this, this was the perfect cure. Of course he was lucky as hell there. But just to be able to put himself in a position to fight for the victory in such a demanding race after all that happened to him lately, shows the magnetude of this rider's character.

This was arguably his biggest win. Or is his Vuelta win unquestionably rated higher, what do you think?
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Vuelta, not really a question. But he really needed this one IMO.

Going by the phrasing of a Wielerflits article, I'm not sure he'll do the Vuelta. The artical said LBL was the last race in months of peaking for Roglic, and it mentioned how he hadn't been home for 3 months.
 
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Vuelta requires many more variables to fall in place to win it. On the other hand, the fact that there are less candidates to win a GT increases his odds of the win.
I value more the GT win. But I am not from Belgium! :)
 
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Roglič is actually a funny guy. I guess TdF finish made him human after all. When he was asked what is next in line for him after win yesterday (is he going to Vuelta or is season over for him), he said, he doesn't know yet and it's a perfect time to celebrate, because he finally won something. Says a guy with 42 pro wins in couple years of cycling.

Jumbo Visma also released his watt numbers from TdF and he rode TT better then in Vuelta where he won. His best ever watt numbers wouldn't be enough to beat Pogačar that day. No chance really.
 
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Really delighted for him. Despite being humble and professional, he always seemed a bit 'robotic'. His devastation at the end of the ITT made him seem 'human' - just sitting there, not knowing what to do.
He's come back in the best possible way; a strong ride at the World Champs, and now a Monument, even if it was slightly fortunate. But he was in the position to capitalise on the fortune.

Well done!!
 
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Gargamel35 said:
Roglič is actually a funny guy. I guess TdF finish made him human after all. When he was asked what is next in line for him after win yesterday (is he going to Vuelta or is season over for him), he said, he doesn't know yet and it's a perfect time to celebrate, because he finally won something. Says a guy with 42 pro wins in couple years of cycling.

Jumbo Visma also released his watt numbers from TdF and he rode TT better then in Vuelta where he won. His best ever watt numbers wouldn't be enough to beat Pogačar that day. No chance really.
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The Tour outcome is a lesson to a team like JV and an Ineos. If you're going to "dominate" stage pacing; be careful of who gets the free ride. It took both Geraint and Froome to hurt Dumolin for Thomas' overall win. If they'd just set tempo who knows how it could've turned out.
Pogacar was a nice kid. Now he's a nice man and will get treated like a potential winner. Roglic has nothing to be ashamed of but will probably be reminded of lost chances like other riders.
This win was sweet and deserved, Julian's theatrics aside.
 
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Dumoulin: 'Tour-scenario is ook mogelijk in Vuelta'

Als Primoz Roglic beter in vorm is dan Tom Dumoulin tijdens de Ronde van Spanje rijdt de Maastrichtenaar opnieuw in dienst van de Sloveen.
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Tour scenario again. Honestly Dumo is kinda unlucky, Vuelta is just not having enough TT and the climbs are too steep. On a Giro 2020-like route, he will probably have the first chance. I hope he is not gonna start working in the first climbs if he feels he is gonna lose like 30 seconds. Kuss is more than enough really.
 
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Luthor said:
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Dumoulin: 'Tour-scenario is ook mogelijk in Vuelta'

Als Primoz Roglic beter in vorm is dan Tom Dumoulin tijdens de Ronde van Spanje rijdt de Maastrichtenaar opnieuw in dienst van de Sloveen.
www.1limburg.nl www.1limburg.nl
Tour scenario again. Honestly Dumo is kinda unlucky, Vuelta is just not having enough TT and the climbs are too steep. On a Giro 2020-like route, he will probably have the first chance. I hope he is not gonna start working in the first climbs if he feels he is gonna lose like 30 seconds. Kuss is more than enough really.
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Honestly, the queen stage is quite early, and the Angliru is super straightforward.
 
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Luthor said:
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Dumoulin: 'Tour-scenario is ook mogelijk in Vuelta'

Als Primoz Roglic beter in vorm is dan Tom Dumoulin tijdens de Ronde van Spanje rijdt de Maastrichtenaar opnieuw in dienst van de Sloveen.
www.1limburg.nl www.1limburg.nl
Tour scenario again. Honestly Dumo is kinda unlucky, Vuelta is just not having enough TT and the climbs are too steep. On a Giro 2020-like route, he will probably have the first chance. I hope he is not gonna start working in the first climbs if he feels he is gonna lose like 30 seconds. Kuss is more than enough really.
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Reading the article, there is an interesting bit in there on his form: he says he is riding well already and the form is getting better every week. Hopes to feel that top shape again, and if it does not happen this year then next year.

I think he could be a vuelta threat from that quote.
 
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gerundium said:
Reading the article, there is an interesting bit in there on his form: he says he is riding well already and the form is getting better every week. Hopes to feel that top shape again, and if it does not happen this year then next year.

I think he could be a vuelta threat from that quote.
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He's been saying that since he came back but the improvement is slow. Remember all the hope before TDF when Roglic was injured. He was like the #3 pick for tdf winner here.
He needs that extra bit to be competitive. Sad he is not in Giro, he would've had a good chance there.
He will be a threat but he still lacks confidence. He already portrays himself in 7th place which is not smth you will hear from Roglic. Dumo needs a win, at least a stage one.
 
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He's been saying that since he came back but the improvement is slow. Remember all the hope before TDF when Roglic was injured. He was like the #3 pick for tdf winner here.
He needs that extra bit to be competitive. Sad he is not in Giro, he would've had a good chance there.
He will be a threat but he still lacks confidence. He already portrays himself in 7th place which is not smth you will hear from Roglic. Dumo needs a win, at least a stage one.
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Being in Giro as in skipping Tour?

Or doing a Giro/Tour with 2 weeks rest?
 
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