Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[SHAD0W93]

FYI Jai was there in the group, when Remco was waiving, trying to maintain the gap.



You don't really have to care about Pogi, when beating him, although it is nice.

And Evenepoel finished two minutes behind Pogacar posing zero threat. Why would Bora burn the rider that can help Evenepoel on the climbs over terrain he isn’t good at?

Bora has as much chance as any of us to beat Pogacar.

 

[AmRacer]

FYI Jai was there in the group, when Remco was waiving, trying to maintain the gap.



You don't really have to care about Pogi, when beating him, although it is nice.

Wout isn't racing

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If my team forced me to skip flanders and the ardennes and then sent me to romandie to race pocagar I wouldn't train for it either.

 

[CyclistAbi]

And please, don't give me the "team doesn't support him"

Of course it is all about that.

I would have thought he would do the exact opposite, have a blistering last hurrah to prove everybody wrong, that's the Rogla *I* love

Your own team members chasing you down?

And Evenepoel finished two minutes behind Pogacar posing zero threat. Why would Bora burn the rider that can help Evenepoel on the climbs over terrain he isn’t good at?

Bora has as much chance as any of us to beat Pogacar.

It was you that said Rogla should have been there helping some other leader to maintain the gap. I just pointed out RBH already had two in that group when Remco was waiving.

If my team forced me to skip flanders and the ardennes and then sent me to romandie to race pocagar I wouldn't train for it either.

Yeah it's bad currently. Hopefully for better days to come in this or some other team.

i just want him fresh healthy and motivated for the vuelta

Still, he will likely be mostly on his own so it will be harder.

 

[Red Rick]

And Evenepoel finished two minutes behind Pogacar posing zero threat. Why would Bora burn the rider that can help Evenepoel on the climbs over terrain he isn’t good at?

Bora has as much chance as any of us to beat Pogacar.

Look everyone has the same chance of beating Pogacar, and nobody thought to bring a baseball bat.

I'm as big a propagandist for racing to win as anyone, but here you just don't even try and just race for 2nd.

Or in the case of Roglic, you test how how no training works for you

 

[CyclistAbi]

So if Rogla wins this race by not training, what does that tell us.

 

[Berniece]

So if Rogla wins this race by not training, what does that tell us.

That the whole peloton got covid?

 

[Red Rick]

That the whole peloton got covid?

We all died and heaven (or hell, if such is your inclination) is @CyclistAbi's fantasyland?

 

[CyclistAbi]

This is likely just some new cutting edge or should i say new age experiment targeted at aliens. Build a team with no support and send the athletes with no training.

And lets see on how it goes.

 

[Rackham]

You want Roglic to be remembered as a whiner and a sore loser that threw awain his final year after one of the best careers just because the team had other priorities? Nobody will really remember the good times, only the fans, he will be ridiculed like Froome

I would have thought he would do the exact opposite, have a blistering last hurrah to prove everybody wrong, that's the Rogla *I* love

Quite beyond the crazy overreaction here; Froome got memed and piled on because his statements were always about "putting in the hard miles" or fixing his saddle height with the insinuation it would make him as fast as before in pursuit of Tour number five.

Rog here (I haven't even seen his pre-race interview but we'll just roll with it) has literally gone in the opposite direction.

So no, it doesn't really compare.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Rackham

It's more of a projection, on what @ftm would like it to be, not what it actually is.

 

[SHAD0W93]

It was you that said Rogla should have been there helping some other leader to maintain the gap. I just pointed out RBH already had two in that group when Remco was waiving.

After there was pages upon pages upon pages every month by someone since 2023 Roglic about the team. I’m just highlighting the hypocrisy of it all when Roglic has been riding poor. But keep spinning down the rabbit hole. What’s funny is I think Roglic will do well today sparking hype, and then it will unravel to podium or top 5.

Look everyone has the same chance of beating Pogacar, and nobody thought to bring a baseball bat.

Wood or aluminum?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If my team forced me to skip flanders and the ardennes and then sent me to romandie to race pocagar I wouldn't train for it either.

He wouldn't exactly have escaped Pogačar if he had raced them instead.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@SHAD0W93

No, it was literary your last answer in this thread, there where no pages upon pages in between that. And no it's not true that i complained about RBH sine 2023 as instead i even commended them for making progress. Even after they restructured the team i kept a positive attitude and could see the possibility of synergies. It's only after all that the U turn happen and it all went to ***. So please be more accurate about such things.

Anyway. Most of the people i interact here claim if you are not Pogi you basically shouldn't be supported anyway. So in the end i don't even know what we are arguing about. Why are the same people then so riled up when i say Rogla is not supported any more at RBH.

 

[Rackham]

Rog was at the recent Sinner-Alcaraz Monte-Carlo final btw (when Alcaraz still had a wrist). Maybe that's what he means when he says he hasn't trained. It's not like he's been to altitude or anything before Romandie either.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Rog was at the recent Sinner-Alcaraz Monte-Carlo final btw (when Alcaraz still had a wrist). Maybe that's what he means when he says he hasn't trained. It's not like he's been to altitude or anything before Romandie either.

Of course he trained. People just jump the gun whenever he says something beyond saying nothing. Journalist and fans are not used to that and tend to overreact.

 

[Red Rick]

Rog was at the recent Sinner-Alcaraz Monte-Carlo final btw (when Alcaraz still had a wrist). Maybe that's what he means when he says he hasn't trained. It's not like he's been to altitude or anything before Romandie either.

Damn, I missed the 2nd good thing about tennis in 2026.

Given that it's Monaco he was probably just a random in the crowd?

 

[AmRacer]

Most of the people i interact here claim if you are not Pogi you basically shouldn't be supported anyway.

That's not true

 

[ftm]

Quite beyond the crazy overreaction here; Froome got memed and piled on because his statements were always about "putting in the hard miles" or fixing his saddle height with the insinuation it would make him as fast as before in pursuit of Tour number five.

Rog here (I haven't even seen his pre-race interview but we'll just roll with it) has literally gone in the opposite direction.

So no, it doesn't really compare.

Or maybe some people are crazy underreacting here. You can interpret my words as you want, that's not the point at all, the point is that I don't understand his attitude wasting the last year of his career and letting people remember him like this, like a bad teammate, a sore loser and someone who is just cashing in and completely checked out, same things that were said about Froome for as long as he was riding for IPT

You are telling me you haven't noticed that this is the discourse around him since last Tour? He is essentially undoing part of his legacy by having that attitude, or are you so naive to believe that the general public will have a nuanced take based on all the things that are being discussed here? They won't, they will remember his downfall because that is more dramatic and generates more discussion.

And even though it's clear that he will retire, those of you who think he won't really believe that other teams know what's going on behind the scenes at Red Bull that might justify his apparent apathy? Do you really believe any team will offer him a good salary and a pick of races when all that's being said about this season so far paints him as someone you wouldn't want on your team

 

[Red Rick]

Or maybe some people are crazy underreacting here. You can interpret my words as you want, that's not the point at all, the point is that I don't understand his attitude wasting the last year of his career and letting people remember him like this, like a bad teammate, a sore loser and someone who is just cashing in and completely checked out, same things that were said about Froome for as long as he was riding for IPT

You are telling me you haven't noticed that this is the discourse around him since last Tour? He is essentially undoing part of his legacy by having that attitude, or are you so naive to believe that the general public will have a nuanced take based on all the things that are being discussed here? They won't, they will remember his downfall because that is more dramatic and generates more discussion.

And even though it's clear that he will retire, those of you who think he won't really believe that other teams know what's going on behind the scenes at Red Bull that might justify his apparent apathy? Do you really believe any team will offer him a good salary and a pick of races when all that's being said about this season so far paints him as someone you wouldn't want on your team

I think he's still worth more than most. If I had a team, I'd take him on 1.5M a season for only Giro/Vuelta and barey any other races.

And there's some absolute *** riders on 2M or more.

 

[SHAD0W93]

@SHAD0W93

No, it was literary your last answer in this thread, there where no pages upon pages in between that. And no it's not true that i complained about RBH sine 2023 as instead i even commended them for making progress. Even after they restructured the team i kept a positive attitude and could see the possibility of synergies. It's only after all that the U turn happen and it all went to ***. So please be more accurate about such things.

Anyway. Most of the people i interact here claim if you are not Pogi you basically shouldn't be supported anyway. So in the end i don't even know what we are arguing about. Why are the same people then so riled up when i say Rogla is not supported any more at RBH.

Why do you assume I’m talking about you? But on that topic we know how you like to skate around.

 

[Rackham]

Damn, I missed the 2nd good thing about tennis in 2026.

Given that it's Monaco he was probably just a random in the crowd?

Total random, just no flipflops (from his Insta):

 

[Rackham]

Or maybe some people are crazy underreacting here. You can interpret my words as you want, that's not the point at all, the point is that I don't understand his attitude wasting the last year of his career and letting people remember him like this, like a bad teammate, a sore loser and someone who is just cashing in and completely checked out, same things that were said about Froome for as long as he was riding for IPT

You are telling me you haven't noticed that this is the discourse around him since last Tour? He is essentially undoing part of his legacy by having that attitude, or are you so naive to believe that the general public will have a nuanced take based on all the things that are being discussed here? They won't, they will remember his downfall because that is more dramatic and generates more discussion.

And even though it's clear that he will retire, those of you who think he won't really believe that other teams know what's going on behind the scenes at Red Bull that might justify his apparent apathy? Do you really believe any team will offer him a good salary and a pick of races when all that's being said about this season so far paints him as someone you wouldn't want on your team

The general public doesn't care. They only care about what's happening at the front end and who's winning.

Rog's 'misfortune' is that he's still a top 8 climber this season in the races he's been in which means he makes the selection of the final small group but then can't follow when whomever is best on the day goes (in Itzulia he did follow Seixas and got blown off the wheel).

As for your comment about what other teams might or might not do, that's not really your decision is it? If he wants to continue he'll find something and if not he'll retire. Simples.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@SHAD0W93

Ah it wasn't me, everything else was flying in my direction and i guess i missed that one. Soz.

@ftm

And when did you ever seen Rogla complain or taking defeat ungracefully?

 

[acm]

I guess it must be quite worrying for RBH when someone "who has given up, who has completely checked out and who doesn't give a ****", is still the best on the team today.