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Aren't we all... overreacting a bit? I missed the stage, but it just seems to me like he had an off day. True, that has been exceedingly rare in the past two or three seasons for him (when he didn't crash), and that's probably why it feels so strange. For goodness' sake, the man is 32, perhaps not a spring chicken anymore but hardly an old geezer.

His (relative) humanity has always been what makes his career actually interesting to follow, imo, compared to Pog's. I'm sure he will treat us to a nice dose of Roglstomp very soon.
 
This is the second off day that Roglić has in two stage races this year. On top of that he hasn't been looking great during the whole Itzulia except for the TT. There is still plenty of time for him to get into top shape before the Tour but he can't have off days there and I don't think he will win Fleche in this kind of shape
 
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This is the second off day that Roglić has in two stage races this year. On top of that he hasn't been looking great during the whole Itzulia except for the TT. There is still plenty of time for him to get into top shape before the Tour but he can't have off days there and I don't think he will win Fleche in this kind of shape
Strange, though, after the TT that he would be less than dominant.
 
He’s likely mixing up his approach because he knows he needs to try something different to beat Pogacar in the Tour. Doubt we’re seeing a decline here. Contador declined slowly over several years, Froome was very slowly declining before his crash; this would be a decline in 6 months that those guys had over 3 years. Unlikely.
Don't worry, it's called an off day. At this point in the season, no big deal.
 
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i think everyone saying that he is trying a different approach to the TDF is correct. he really has nothing to prove by winning this race again. last year he crashed out of the Paris-Nice win and was going up against Pogacar here, he was a man on a mission. IMO he is under-trained compared to last April to build up to a super peak for the TDF because that's his only chance to beat Pogacar. he destroyed everyone in the TT with ease 4 days ago after winning Paris-Nice three and a half weeks ago...his form has to be tapering down somewhat by now.
 
i think everyone saying that he is trying a different approach to the TDF is correct. he really has nothing to prove by winning this race again. last year he crashed out of the Paris-Nice win and was going up against Pogacar here, he was a man on a mission. IMO he is under-trained compared to last April to build up to a super peak for the TDF because that's his only chance to beat Pogacar. he destroyed everyone in the TT with ease 4 days ago after winning Paris-Nice three and a half weeks ago...his form has to be tapering down somewhat by now.
I am hoping this is the case--a different training approach to put all the eggs in the basket for the TDF, one main peak for the season.
 
i think everyone saying that he is trying a different approach to the TDF is correct. he really has nothing to prove by winning this race again. last year he crashed out of the Paris-Nice win and was going up against Pogacar here, he was a man on a mission. IMO he is under-trained compared to last April to build up to a super peak for the TDF because that's his only chance to beat Pogacar. he destroyed everyone in the TT with ease 4 days ago after winning Paris-Nice three and a half weeks ago...his form has to be tapering down somewhat by now.

The part which gives credence to your theory is the belief Roglic is going to do both the Tour & the Vuelta this summer (according to his race program). That's a huge physical investment.

We also know the January Jumbo altitude training camp was cancelled due to a Covid outbreak, i.e. Jumbo-Visma end training camp due to COVID-19 infection | Cyclingnews (apparently it wasn't Roglic). But that could mean he's behind his usual schedule as well (& he did say he started later than usual). He also didn't look particularly surprised, bothered or appear like he'd just suffered a setback after the stage today, i.e. in his interview he looked like it was expected.

On the flipside Jonas looked pretty good today (until he rode into Vlasov). So whilst I like the possibility Roglic is merely building form for the real objective this summer, wait & see.
 
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I also think (and hope) he has changed some things over the winter.

After last year, he will have realized he‘s now World Champion (in Ski Jumping), Olympic Champion (in ITT cycling), won three Vueltas. Now he probably realized more than ever that it is a TdF GC victory that would crown his legacy.

Paris-Nice lacked in his palmares. He won it in 2022.
Tour of the Basque Country is a race he certainly likes and that suits him, so why not start there in 2022 again? He now will probably finish the GC there in the Top-10 again - that‘s OK. He won the race twice already.

Last year‘s approach to Primoz‘ TdF was 110% focused, 110% perfect. No Dauphine, no TdS, no Slovenia. But what for? Just to be pushed into the ditch by Sonny Colbrelli in stage 3, and so just to lose everything.
I think this disappointment changed him, mentally.

Primoz and the people around him obviously changed few things for 2022:

He starts races just to ride, not to win (Drome and Ardeche). He rides with different teammates (mostly with Vingegaard, less with Sepp Kuss, etc.). He rides less with with DS Niermann. And so on. These are changes that are visible.

There might be changes also that we don‘t yet see. Slightly different approach to training, to nutrition, to medical care, to psychology.

Lance once said, „You can work a little bit sloppy throughout the year, but for eight weeks, preparation should be the best possible“ (Triathlete Peter Reid quoted him there). I think this might be something Primoz has learned now: it‘s the Tour de France that counts for him.
 
I also think (and hope) he has changed some things over the winter.

After last year, he will have realized he‘s now World Champion (in Ski Jumping), Olympic Champion (in ITT cycling), won three Vueltas. Now he probably realized more than ever that it is a TdF GC victory that would crown his legacy.

Paris-Nice lacked in his palmares. He won it in 2022.
Tour of the Basque Country is a race he certainly likes and that suits him, so why not start there in 2022 again? He now will probably finish the GC there in the Top-10 again - that‘s OK. He won the race twice already.

Last year‘s approach to Primoz‘ TdF was 110% focused, 110% perfect. No Dauphine, no TdS, no Slovenia. But what for? Just to be pushed into the dity Sonny Colbrelli in stage 3, and so just to lose everything.
I think this disappointment changed him, mentally.

Primoz and the people around him obviously changed few things for 2022:

He starts races just to ride, not to win (Drome and Ardeche). He rides with different teammates (mostly with Vingegaard, less with Sepp Kuss, etc.). He rides less with with DS Niermann. And so on. These are changes that are visible.

There might be changes also that we don‘t yet see. Slightly different approach to training, to nutrition, to medical care, to psychology.

Lance once said, „You can work a little bit sloppy throughout the year, but for eight weeks, preparation should be the best possible“ (Triathlete Peter Reid quoted him there). I think this might be something Primoz has learned now: it‘s the Tour de France that counts for him.
So for 2 months one must live in cloister.
 
I also think (and hope) he has changed some things over the winter.

After last year, he will have realized he‘s now World Champion (in Ski Jumping), Olympic Champion (in ITT cycling), won three Vueltas. Now he probably realized more than ever that it is a TdF GC victory that would crown his legacy.

Paris-Nice lacked in his palmares. He won it in 2022.
Tour of the Basque Country is a race he certainly likes and that suits him, so why not start there in 2022 again? He now will probably finish the GC there in the Top-10 again - that‘s OK. He won the race twice already.

Last year‘s approach to Primoz‘ TdF was 110% focused, 110% perfect. No Dauphine, no TdS, no Slovenia. But what for? Just to be pushed into the ditch by Sonny Colbrelli in stage 3, and so just to lose everything.
I think this disappointment changed him, mentally.

Primoz and the people around him obviously changed few things for 2022:

He starts races just to ride, not to win (Drome and Ardeche). He rides with different teammates (mostly with Vingegaard, less with Sepp Kuss, etc.). He rides less with with DS Niermann. And so on. These are changes that are visible.

There might be changes also that we don‘t yet see. Slightly different approach to training, to nutrition, to medical care, to psychology.

Lance once said, „You can work a little bit sloppy throughout the year, but for eight weeks, preparation should be the best possible“ (Triathlete Peter Reid quoted him there). I think this might be something Primoz has learned now: it‘s the Tour de France that counts for him.
Lev is getting too heavy to lift on the podium every damn stage.