Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Red Rick]

There's a difference between not caring and not being stressed.

He cares. He wants to win. But if he loses he'll move on pretty quickly, while I will never recover from it.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Rogla is murdering it on the dance floor, beats ESC every time!

 

[CyclistAbi]

He is using the Giro as a training for the Tour, and it is really possible he win the Giro this way.

He will probably reach a higher level in the Tour, but it will not win the race.

UAE is in perfect position to be honest. They will have 4 riders under 2:30 minutes before the last week. This will be dangerous for Redbull.

In hindsight UAE made the ultimate mistake to bring so many young guns to the Giro in great form. This really pushed Rogla to train hard, compered to being asleep half of the time.

 

[CyclistAbi]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCjfC6IR6B8

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7gFNaGYEs8


Tomorrow there will be "veselica." A bit rocky start from Rogla, just perfect for gravel!

 

[bNator]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCjfC6IR6B8

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Tomorrow there will be "veselica." A bit rocky start from Rogla, just perfect for gravel!

Instant karma for @CyclistAbi for posting *** music…

 

[Peyroteo94]

Biggest loser today however it isn't over. The most interesting thing is Pelli wasn't supposed to race the Giro.

 

[Rackham]

Well, let's look at the positives. Providing there's no damage from the crash and he's good to go he'll at least ride the ITT in his own team skinsuit and not the pink organiser one. It's always better. Pellizzari was good as well.

That's the positives. The rest is what it is.

 

[zlev11]

crash that wasn't his fault, puncture, horrifically bad team performance and he only lost 1:15 to Ayuso. now he can give us a show the rest of the race.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Positively, the leader and the second place rider are apart of the same team, and UAE has previously shown serious problems with leadership in non-Pogi Grand Tours, and Roglic is only a minute behind second.

 

[zlev11]

Positively, the leader and the second place rider are apart of the same team, and UAE has previously shown serious problems with leadership in non-Pogi Grand Tours, and Roglic is only a minute behind second.

i dont think del Toro will be good in the high mountains. he's more suited to a hilly stage like today. he was insanely strong though so i could easily be wrong.

 

[Miha81]

Positively, the leader and the second place rider are apart of the same team, and UAE has previously shown serious problems with leadership in non-Pogi Grand Tours, and Roglic is only a minute behind second.

But the weak team does not bode well for the rest of Giro. They are one important man down and nobody except Pelizzarri was there for their leader on a stage where team support mattered the most.

 

[jmdirt]

PR is still in this thing.*

*pending medical report...

 

[Cycling111]

The crash wasn't his fault, but Roglic looked uncomfortable throughout. And punctures are often influenced by the way you ride the bike.
This year, he should´ve been at Strade Bianche. Without risk, but knowing the race helps.

If He wins the Giro, Red Bull ll have to give money to Q36.5.
Pidcock was already out of options for the stage, and they worked hard. Without that alliance, it could be a disastrous day.

The loss isn't as much as feared after the puncture.

I still have my doubts about Ayuso. Today, he was surpassed by someone with little explosiveness like Tiberi. And Ayuso has bad days in the mountains.
That, coupled with the UAE's egos, could help him.

It's harder today, but this difference is totally recoverable with these rivals.

 

[Red Rick]

He looked fine to me until the crash. I think he burnt a lot of matches in the short aftermath after the crash, and then the mechanical to get back to Pidcock, and both him and Pidcock fried themselves a bit trying to bridge on the 3rd Sterrato section. It's a bit how these things go, you burn your matches and then you pay later. Rog had the same thing happen in the TdF stage, burnt his matches early closing that gap then was on the limit for the entire finale.

 

[Blanco]

He just doesn't know to ride on the gravel. Looked bad the whole time. I hope he will bounce back already in the ITT.

 

[fenns]

I'm not convinced by Ayuso - I still think PR will find a way to win but he may not wear the pink again until the final stage.

 

[Rackham]

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[Cycling111]

i dont think del Toro will be good in the high mountains. he's more suited to a hilly stage like today. he was insanely strong though so i could easily be wrong.

Del Toro's best performances as an U23 rider were in the mountains.

Last year at Tirreno Adriatico, he was incredibly strong in the mountains.
He was disappointing at the Vuelta, but it was his debut, and I think he arrived exhausted at the end of the season.

It's a mystery whether he'll be ready for three weeks. But if there was one terrain where we thought he'd be very good, it was the high mountains.

 

[zlev11]

Del Toro's best performances as an U23 rider were in the mountains.

Last year at Tirreno Adriatico, he was incredibly strong in the mountains.
He was disappointing at the Vuelta, but it was his debut, and I think he arrived exhausted at the end of the season.

It's a mystery whether he'll be ready for three weeks. But if there was one terrain where we thought he'd be very good, it was the high mountains.

the "mountains" in Tirreno last year are nothing even close to what is coming up in this race. on the hardest mountain he only put 6 seconds into non-climber Tom Pidcock. last year at the Vuelta he was losing breakaway races to Marc Soler in the high mountains. he looks really strong but i have my doubts about him being able to hold the best climbers in this race behind him for two weeks. the biggest threat to Roglic is still Ayuso and he didn't impress me very much today.

 

[how yes no?]

It is not that I would have blind confidence in Rogla winning it, no stress, because of himself... but winner is always relative to the competitors so this would imply there would have to be another competitor who I would think is more likely to win. Then I look around and see the main competitor is supposed to be Ayuso, who wasn't that strong today (while he didn't have to do much ridding in the wind either)...
While Del Toro may prove to be the main competitor and I have less distrust in his abilities than Ayusos, I still believe this is not meant to be his time and it will manifest somehow.

So I still have trust in Primož winning this... maybe not absolute trust, but relative one is enough.

 

[acm]

He just doesn't know to ride on the gravel. Looked bad the whole time. I hope he will bounce back already in the ITT.

What a BS. If that Ineos rider hadn't crashed in front of him, he would have easily stayed in the group of GC favorites.

"It's not over until it's over." Go Rogla!

 

[Rackham]

If it wasn't dramatic and a human adventure it wouldn't be Rogla.

I like the look of stage 16 tbh. Also, I think the weather in Pisa might be bad on Tuesday in the ITT so that's something that can affect the race going forward as well.

 

[Red Rick]

Second time an Ineos riders takes half the GC riders down in the Giro. Lucas Hamilton is the new Puccio

 

[Cycling111]

the "mountains" in Tirreno last year are nothing even close to what is coming up in this race. on the hardest mountain he only put 6 seconds into non-climber Tom Pidcock. last year at the Vuelta he was losing breakaway races to Marc Soler in the high mountains. he looks really strong but i have my doubts about him being able to hold the best climbers in this race behind him for two weeks. the biggest threat to Roglic is still Ayuso and he didn't impress me very much today.

At last year's Tirreno, he was pulling for Ayuso and the whole group, Pidcock no.
Del Toro finished fourth after pulling Ayuso who had a bad day.

But we're talking about a 21 years guy, as an under-23 rider did an impressive exhibition in mountain.
His Vuelta was disappointing, but he was making his debut, and after a year of many races. Not everyone is like Pogacar.

I'm not saying he's going to win the Giro. But from what we saw of him as an under-23 rider and what those who knew him said, he was going to be a great climber.
Many promising riders disappoint, but if there's one thing we expected of Del Toro, it's that he's a great climber in the high mountains.

Maybe it won't happen in this Giro, and he'll collapse in the third week. He's very young, and not everyone achieves that in their second year.
But when we're talking about someone so young, we can't focus on whether he disappointed one day and Pidcock finished 6 seconds behind. Inconsistency is normal for a 20-year-old neopro.

I'm just saying that if he's still leading on stage 18, let's not act surprised.
When we're talking about a second-year rider with this potential, you never know when his first great GT will be. This Giro? Next year?

 

[red_flanders]

He looked fine to me until the crash. I think he burnt a lot of matches in the short aftermath after the crash, and then the mechanical to get back to Pidcock, and both him and Pidcock fried themselves a bit trying to bridge on the 3rd Sterrato section. It's a bit how these things go, you burn your matches and then you pay later. Rog had the same thing happen in the TdF stage, burnt his matches early closing that gap then was on the limit for the entire finale.

Yep, I think that's really a factor, those are matches he did not want to burn today. I think he's a level above anyone else in this race, so it's far from over, but to your point, these things add up.