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The yellow jersey is also a big goal for every team. With Evenepoel, Roglic and Lipo there is a chance to beat UAE in the TTT with Roglic or Evenepoel in yellow.
I think there is nothing Red Bull and Visma can really do to beat Pog. They just need to hope that he isn't in 100% shape, has a bad day or perhaps a crash again (noone really wants that) and then they need to be at 100%.
 
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Leaders even gave bottles to doms to get over the hills a tad lighter so i feel that RBH has this one sorted out. That is one doesn't need to put any thought whatsoever into it from the perspective of somebody that has even a remote shot in GC.
Not sure what you are trying to say. What I'm saying is that Roglic wants to ride the TDF, but not to win it, while also wanting to ride the Vuelta, to win it. It makes perfect sense for him to ride the TDF as training, maybe go for some stages, while also helping Lipowitz/Evenepoel achieve GC results.
 
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Not sure what you are trying to say. What I'm saying is that Roglic wants to ride the TDF, but not to win it, while also wanting to ride the Vuelta, to win it. It makes perfect sense for him to ride the TDF as training, maybe go for some stages, while also helping Lipowitz/Evenepoel achieve GC results.
Of course Rogla wants to win the TdF.
 
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If RBBH attack Pogi, Jonas will be the only one benefit from it.

Jonas IMHO isn't a problem here, RBH should be hoping for Visma to play along.

We are talking about 2022 here, not the previous two editions. Rogla helped with cracking Pogi during the Granon stage but the Slovenian never caused any troubles to Vingo in the mountains during that edition (and was dropped again on Hautacam). Vingo was better in 2022. One of BORA guys needs to be at about Pog's level for numbers game to play a factor.

In retrospect i don't feel that we can say Pogi wasn't always dominant. Rogla and Jonas pushed him out of his comfort zone and indeed that is on why he cracked and it was over on that day.

Even in 2020-2021 there were some signs Pog can be beaten: he beat Rogla just by 1 minute in 2020 (and was dropped on Loze) plus Vingo dropped him on Ventoux in 2021. Now? Pogacar is light years ahead of BORA guys and drops them by minutes at will, even 8 Roglices won't help here unless one of them is suddenly very close to Pog level-wise next year. Vingegaard is a different story but even he has to make a considerable step forward to match Pog.

There can't be 8 Rogličes, that is wishful thinking. There can be around 5 riders for RBH always in the mix, that can be done. As for the top 3 RBH riders, Pogi can't control them all if they play it smart and apply pressure. He isn't that good. Now if you send one RBH leader and a weak team, that is a different story, UAE and Pogi can tackle that while yawning.

The yellow jersey is also a big goal for every team. With Evenepoel, Roglic and Lipo there is a chance to beat UAE in the TTT with Roglic or Evenepoel in yellow.

Of course they can.

I think there is nothing Red Bull and Visma can really do to beat Pog. They just need to hope that he isn't in 100% shape, has a bad day or perhaps a crash again (noone really wants that) and then they need to be at 100%.

If persistently applying pressure, for sure they can pressure Pogi into making tactical mistakes.

Not sure what you are trying to say. What I'm saying is that Roglic wants to ride the TDF, but not to win it, while also wanting to ride the Vuelta, to win it. It makes perfect sense for him to ride the TDF as training, maybe go for some stages, while also helping Lipowitz/Evenepoel achieve GC results.

Actually it was the nationals campaign, on where for example Rogla would give Remco a bottle and then Remco would give him the bottle back at the top of the hill. Something for RBH to look into considering your only wish seems to be for Rogla to hand Remco a bottle. It can be done! As for the Tour and Rogličes chances, for GC, you have to understand that the expert journalists have spoken, basically written Rogla off, betting experts say he has basically 0 chance, on top of that Rogla is relatively old and crashes a lot. At best hence plan C or D or even E for RBH. So if Lipo, Remco, Jai, Giulio, Alex ... all try and somehow fail, then surely Rogla should try? Win for the team. Or would you rather see him offer a shoulder to cry on and be there for emotional support? It goes without saying.

Of course Rogla wants to win the TdF.

Heart says Vuelta head says the Tour, so both just to make sure? We'll see.
 
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Actually it was the nationals campaign, on where for example Rogla would give Remco a bottle and then Remco would give him the bottle back at the top of the hill. Something for RBH to look into considering your only wish seems to be for Rogla to hand Remco a bottle. It can be done! As for the Tour and Rogličes chances, for GC, you have to understand that the expert journalists have spoken, basically written Rogla off, betting experts say he has basically 0 chance, on top of that Rogla is relatively old and crashes a lot. At best hence plan C or D or even E for RBH. So if Lipo, Remco, Jai, Giulio, Alex ... all try and somehow fail, then surely Rogla should try? Win for the team. Or would you rather see him offer a shoulder to cry on and be there for emotional support? It goes without saying.
First of all, I don't consider Roglic only for handing a bottle to Remco. Stop thinking in camps, and read what I'm saying. I'm saying Roglic should go for stages and help Lipowitz/Evenepoel when possible. Since he is getting full leadership in the Vuelta where he can get the record.

Besides that, I still think Roglic is at the same level as Lipowitz and Evenepoel in the pecking order. All 3 are above Hindley, Pellizari, etc. I just don't think it makes sense to go with 3 leaders to the TDF, and even more so when Roglic says he really wants to go for the Vuelta win, but also wants to ride the TDF.
 
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@Berniece

As long as one of them wins the Tour 2026 i am OK with that. If neither will then i am OK with Pogi taking it.

Riders like Jai and Giulio (Dani, Alex) should be there to apply pressure early on, as UAE won't let any of the trio in a break easily. As for how the trio should ride, they should ride to the best of their ability. Each is strong on certain terrain and there is on where each should be supported to apply pressure.