Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[aphronesis]

Crashes can do that. If Pog and UAE back off the Vuelta then maybe something. Much else will be a welcome surprise.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Hmm, good question. I would think December, whenever they invite press.

EDIT: last year, Roglic’s schedule was announced 14th of December

RBH media day is on December 10th and I expect Primož will announce his schedule then.

Likely indeed before Christmas it is then. Was thinking that Remco won't officially be part of the RBH family before January but indeed that likely won't interfere with schedule being announced already in December.

@CyclistAbi

"For Rogla just about anything stage racing orientated and beyond is realistic"

No, it isn't and you know it

Of course it is.

Q: Which races will you do?
A: Those Tadej and Remco don't

No, the only things interfering with him winning the Tour are Pogi, Vingo, Remco and age.

And Lipo, and Seixas, and...

All that aside I think he'll have a better year than last year.

Well, in terms of the Tour this can go two ways, for Rogla. Either he won't have it and will help the best teammate out, our he will be the best one in RBH and the team will help him out. Without such strong team chances are slim anyway. RBH is now at bare minimum in terms of AAA status, they can play with UAE and Visma just fine. Even impose their own game if desired.

I hope so, I'm a fan. But a realistic one.

Good luck.

 

[AmRacer]

Likely indeed before Christmas it is then. Was thinking that Remco won't officially be part of the RBH family before January but indeed that likely won't interfere with schedule being announced already in December.



Of course it is.







Well, in terms of the Tour this can go two ways, for Rogla. Either he won't have it and will help the best teammate out, our he will be the best one in RBH and the team will help him out. Without such strong team chances are slim anyway. RBH is now at bare minimum in terms of AAA status, they can play with UAE and Visma just fine. Even impose their own game if desired.



Good luck.

RBBH isn't that strong. All they can do is to trying follow as long as possible. I don't think Rogla will race the TdF, he managed getting to Paris and he's happy with that.

 

[Berniece]

And Lipo, and Seixas, and...

All that aside I think he'll have a better year than last year.

Seixas? Would still think Roglic is better

Likely indeed before Christmas it is then. Was thinking that Remco won't officially be part of the RBH family before January but indeed that likely won't interfere with schedule being announced already in December.

He can’t wear team colours so maybe no press for him

 

[acm]

He can’t wear team colours so maybe no press for him

That's not really a problem. Jan Tratnik was at press conference in Visma's pants last year.

 

[red_flanders]

Seixas? Would still think Roglic is better

He is. Will he be at next year's Tour? I'm not sure. Probably.

 

[Berniece]

He is. Will he be at next year's Tour? I'm not sure. Probably.

Which one of the two? Seixas I hope not just to save him from the pressure, but wouldn’t be surprised if the French f* that up.

Roglic I don’t know. I’m not yet sure how they are going to divide their GT riders, it’s going to be a difficult puzzle. Even more so if Evenepoel would do Giro and TDF

 

[CyclistAbi]

RBBH isn't that strong. All they can do is to trying follow as long as possible. I don't think Rogla will race the TdF, he managed getting to Paris and he's happy with that.

At 2025 Tour edition only two RBH riders where capable to do something in terms of GC, support was rather subpar, and still they didn't just follow. As for Rogla being happy with finishing the Tour after 2020, why not. It's reasonable to celebrate that.

 

[AmRacer]

At 2025 Tour edition only two RBH riders where capable to do something in terms of GC, support was rather subpar, and still they didn't just follow. As for Rogla being happy with finishing the Tour after 2020, why not. It's reasonable to celebrate that.

Happy days, now onto unfinished business. TdS and Vuelta.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Happy days, now onto unfinished business. TdS and Vuelta.

Always happy days when Rogla races, as for the mentioned two races. In this category Rogla is the record holder, all history of pro peloton included, this can't hence be called unfinished business. At the Tour Rogla was already a runner up and a part of the winning team. Here hence it indeed makes some sense and to now win this race too, especially considering that now the team allows for it. UAE and Visma are not stronger any more in terms of the roster. So if RBH will do their diligence and send all the best to the Tour 2026, they will toy with the likes of UAE and Visma, that is on how good they are.

 

[AmRacer]

Always happy days when Rogla races, as for the mentioned two races. In this category Rogla is the record holder, all history of pro peloton included, this can't hence be called unfinished business. At the Tour Rogla was already a runner up and a part of the winning team. Here hence it indeed makes some sense and to now win this race too, especially considering that now the team allows for it. UAE and Visma are not stronger any more in terms of the roster. So if RBH will do their diligence and send all the best to the Tour 2026, they will toy with the likes of UAE and Visma, that is on how good they are.

No, they aren't not. No team can toy with UAE and VLAB.

 

[CyclistAbi]

No, they aren't not. No team can toy with UAE and VLAB.

We'll see.

 

[YavorD]

Always happy days when Rogla races, as for the mentioned two races. In this category Rogla is the record holder, all history of pro peloton included, this can't hence be called unfinished business. At the Tour Rogla was already a runner up and a part of the winning team. Here hence it indeed makes some sense and to now win this race too, especially considering that now the team allows for it. UAE and Visma are not stronger any more in terms of the roster. So if RBH will do their diligence and send all the best to the Tour 2026, they will toy with the likes of UAE and Visma, that is on how good they are.

Even if Visma and UAE aren't stronger (they are at least on par, IMO), Visma and UAE still has the strongest leaders, which is all that matters in the end.
I mean, you seem to forget that 3 different UAE riders finished top 2 in each grand Tour and 2 different Visma riders won a grand Tour (and 2 extra top 10d).

 

[AmRacer]

We'll see.

You'll see

 

[YavorD]

You'll see

Well he won't because he implies that RBBH has to send Evenepoel-Roglic-Lipo-Hindley-Pellizzari-Vlasov-DFM (or similar) to the Tour so that they have a chance.
They aren't obviously gonna do that, and they won't have a chance, and he'll imply that they simply didn't send the strongest squad, otherwise they would have a chance.
So there's that.

 

[red_flanders]

Well he won't because he implies that RBBH has to send Evenepoel-Roglic-Lipo-Hindley-Pellizzari-Vlasov-DFM (or similar) to the Tour so that they have a chance.
They aren't obviously gonna do that, and they won't have a chance, and he'll imply that they simply didn't send the strongest squad, otherwise they would have a chance.
So there's that.

Thank you for ruining the next 8 months for me with your truth bomb.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Even if Visma and UAE aren't stronger (they are at least on par, IMO), Visma and UAE still has the strongest leaders, which is all that matters in the end.
I mean, you seem to forget that 3 different UAE riders finished top 2 in each grand Tour and 2 different Visma riders won a grand Tour (and 2 extra top 10d).

So does that imply that both UAE and Visma will send their best to the Tour 2026?

Well he won't because he implies that RBBH has to send Evenepoel-Roglic-Lipo-Hindley-Pellizzari-Vlasov-DFM (or similar) to the Tour so that they have a chance.
They aren't obviously gonna do that, and they won't have a chance, and he'll imply that they simply didn't send the strongest squad, otherwise they would have a chance.
So there's that.

I seen two people in rather short amount of time writing RBBH, note that UCI code is RBH. Anyway, who will they send then in your opinion if not the mentioned riders.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Even if Visma and UAE aren't stronger (they are at least on par, IMO), Visma and UAE still has the strongest leaders, which is all that matters in the end.
I mean, you seem to forget that 3 different UAE riders finished top 2 in each grand Tour and 2 different Visma riders won a grand Tour (and 2 extra top 10d).

In fact Visma had 2 firsts and 1 second UAE had 1 first and 2 seconds RBH EF and Q 36.5 each had 1 third. That suggests to me that RBH and Q36.5 are on equal footing. In GTs anyway Q36.5 might be stronger in 1 day races.

 

[YavorD]

So does that imply that both UAE and Visma will send their best to the Tour 2026?

Yes, Visma will probably have similar squad to the one they had this year. Perhaps Tullett instead od Yates, but yeah. UAE will definitely have at least one of Del Toro or Almeida, perhaps both, and if Yates 2 is in better shape..
And each of these teams on his own is enough to control Red Bull riders. And even if they are not on their own the other team won't just let a dangerous rider get away, so in the unlikely situation where a Red Bull rider is a treat AND one team isn't enough, the other team will help.


As for your second question, you'll probably get a couple of flat horses (Van Dijke/Denz/Moscon/DVP....) and 2 people for the hills/mid mountains/stage hunters (Tratnik/Van Gils/Cattaneo) perhaps.
And then you'll have Evenepoel, Lipowitz, Perhaps Roglic (although I don't see it) and possibly Vlasov.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@YavorD

So you do expect for UAE and Visma to bring their best. As for the RBH and two lists above you basically excluded Hindley, Pellizzari and Martínez.

Why?

 

[YavorD]

@YavorD

So you do expect for UAE and Visma to bring their best. As for the RBH and two lists above you basically excluded Hindley, Pellizzari and Martínez.

Why?

Because "the best" doesn't mean the best climbers and if you include the ones you mentioned, you are not making a good team. Are you going to use Hindley or DFM in the positioning battle?

Visma and UAE will have like 4 guys each for the flats and medium mountains as well.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@YavorD

So basically your plan would be to strengthen RBH on flats and semi mountains to take on UAE and Visma and challenge them for the win.

Good luck with that.

 

[YavorD]

@YavorD

So basically your plan would be to strengthen RBH on flats and semi mountains to take on UAE and Visma and challenge them for the win.

Good luck with that.

You can't challenge Visma and UAE unless you have someone who is close to Vingegaard and Pogacar.
Both teams have strong enough squads to nullify the numbers game and by the first mountain stage most of RBH will be minutes behind already.