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[Red Rick]

Primož Roglič stays realistic about lack of Tour de France on race programme in 2026 and going all in for record fifth Vuelta a España title

'If I can choose one race to win, I would sign the Tour de France, it's not a secret, but the reality is different' admits Slovenian

www.cyclingnews.com

Thanks.

Part of me is wondering if Roglic didn't respond to training differently the way he liked for the Giro.

 

[aphronesis]

Seems there were a few different factors, but if 2nd at the Tour isn’t optimal (and that’s an if anyway) why prep to race Jonas if that’s going to happen?

 

[AmRacer]

Seems there were a few different factors, but if 2nd at the Tour isn’t optimal (and that’s an if anyway) why prep to race Jonas if that’s going to happen?

Jonas won it back to back. They still believe he can do it again

 

[aphronesis]

Jonas is at a slightly different moment than Roglic, no?

Anyway, my reference was to Jonas at this year’s Giro and why Roglic would bother if that’s the case.

 

[acm]

Dempster: "The most important thing or what Roglič is most passionate about, is getting back to winning. The best way to do that is through the Vuelta. Ultimately, he made that decision himself. To be honest, we were open to everything, including the possibility of going to the Tour de France with three leaders, and Roglič would compete in both the Tour and the Vuelta. But as he said himself earlier, you have to be realistic."

https://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kolesar...a-na-koncu-je-to-odlocitev-sprejel-sam/766984

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Dempster: "The most important thing or what Roglič is most passionate about, is getting back to winning. The best way to do that is through the Vuelta. Ultimately, he made that decision himself. To be honest, we were open to everything, including the possibility of going to the Tour de France with three leaders, and Roglič would compete in both the Tour and the Vuelta. But as he said himself earlier, you have to be realistic."

https://www.rtvslo.si/sport/kolesar...a-na-koncu-je-to-odlocitev-sprejel-sam/766984

I’m a little surprised by this, but glad to hear it (assuming it’s true). I think he has earned the right to have a say until he starts falling off even without crashes and injuries.

In a parallel universe, I don’t think it is all unrealistic that Roglic wins the Giro without someone crashing him out, then places 4th more or less with Lipowitz in the back half of the double. Plus Catalunya. That would have given this year a very different cast. I kind of wish he’d do the Tour with low pressure before the Vuelta but I get where he’s coming from. The problem with the Vuelta is if he crashes out, there’s nothing left.

 

[acm]

The problem with the Vuelta is if he crashes out, there’s nothing left.

If he wins 2 or 3 one week races it's still something... There are basically 3 goals he should pursue next year: 1. win La Vuelta, 2. win Tour de Suisse, 3. 100 wins

 

[Rockestar_33]

If he wins 2 or 3 one week races it's still something... There are basically 3 goals he should pursue next year: 1. win La Vuelta, 2. win Tour de Suisse, 3. 100 wins

I think if he wins TdS and Vuelta the 100 wins naturally gets there between TA, Itzulia and Romandie

 

[AmRacer]

So, no Suisse for Rogla then.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Pogi truly is the new cannibal. Roglic’s mentorship and protection in the 2020 Tour was severely misguided

 

[Cycling111]

Roglic had previously confirmed his schedule and had not included Switzerland.

 

[AmRacer]

Roglic had previously confirmed his schedule and had not included Switzerland.

He probably knew Pogi would go there.

 

[vappaxbipmv]

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He probably knew Pogi would go there.

But that's irrelevant, you can't win the race of you aren't there. And the way it stands now, with only Jonas to reveal his schedule, he'd be the 2nd favourite behind Pogacar

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I thought Roglic said Suisse was one of his top two goals this year?

 

[AmRacer]

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But that's irrelevant, you can't win the race of you aren't there. And the way it stands now, with only Jonas to reveal his schedule, he'd be the 2nd favourite behind Pogacar

You can't win the race if Pogi is there, or Jonas for that matter.

 

[vappaxbipmv]

You can't win the race if Pogi is there, or Jonas for that matter.

Infinitely more chances than if he's not even going

 

[AmRacer]

Infinitely more chances than if he's not even going

Yeah, Pogi can get sick or crash. Next year, it will be 5 years since Roglic won a GC against Pogi.

 

[Rockestar_33]

Yeah, Pogi can get sick or crash. Next year, it will be 5 years since Roglic won a GC against Pogi.

In fairness, that's due to the fact Rogla and Pogi haven't faced each other in stage races in that time. Plus they're both doing Romandie so we'll see if Rogla can pull out a GC win there (although I doubt it).

I reckon Poland will be included too fwiw.

 

[AmRacer]

In fairness, that's due to the fact Rogla and Pogi haven't faced each other in stage races in that time. Plus they're both doing Romandie so we'll see if Rogla can pull out a GC win there (although I doubt it).

I reckon Poland will be included too fwiw.

They raced the Tour...

 

[Rockestar_33]

They raced the Tour...

Stage race, not grand tour.

 

[AmRacer]

Stage race, not grand tour.

My point is that the last time Rogla won a GC against Pogi was in 2021.

 

[Cycling111]

My point is that the last time Rogla won a GC against Pogi was in 2021.

But being a domestique for McNulty

 

[vappaxbipmv]

Stage race, not grand tour.

GT is a stage race, maybe a week long stage race?

 

[Red Rick]

Look anyone who thinks Roglic can take on Pogacar in a race like Romandie is just delulu at this point, doesn't matter how tired Pogacar is after a full spring schedule. If anything Romandie after an all-monument spring is completely taking the piss IMO.

And with the amount they've dodged each other, I believe 100% they actually communicate about schedule and Roglic having a pretty strong preference for not racing against Pogacar when he doesn't have to.

 

[pastronef]

Look anyone who thinks Roglic can take on Pogacar in a race like Romandie is just delulu at this point, doesn't matter how tired Pogacar is after a full spring schedule. If anything Romandie after an all-monument spring is completely taking the piss IMO.

And with the amount they've dodged each other, I believe 100% they actually communicate about schedule and Roglic having a pretty strong preference for not racing against Pogacar when he doesn't have to.

do you think the TdSuisse owners made a few phone calls to Gianetti to have Pog at their 5-day race?