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[CyclistAbi]

Rogla was crucified today by RBH, lets see if he can resurrect on Monday.

 

[Rou]

An interview with Peiper about different aspects of the sport. Considering he is working as strategic advisor for RBH and based on the sentiment of the article i guess they would rather see Rogla to become a support rider for younger riders then to start winning races again.

Allan Peiper brez dlake na jeziku: Kar zadeva Primoža Rogliča, bi si želel dvoje

"Ne vem, ali ima Primož Roglič še vedno vse, kar je potrebno za doseganje zmag na najvišji ravni, vem pa, da dela vse, da bi bil na tej ravni. Zelo malo kolesarjev trenira tako zavzeto, kot trenira on, in srečal sem zelo malo takih, ki bi bili tako predani, kot je on," je v intervjuju za Sportal...

siol.net

Hopefully for Rogla to prove them wrong in terms of reconsidering such postion. We'll see.

This Peiper guy reminds me of the Inigo San Milan fraud.
Both jumped on the Pogi wagon when he won his first 2 Tours and their importance was greatly exaggerated.
Rogla is a great champion who'll be mentoring his young teammates by crushing the competition.

 

[yaco]

This Peiper guy reminds me of the Inigo San Milan fraud.
Both jumped on the Pogi wagon when he won his first 2 Tours and their importance was greatly exaggerated.
Rogla is a great champion who'll be mentoring his young teammates by crushing the competition.

Peiper was the DS for Pogacars first ever race the 2019 TDU. He has jumped on the bandwagon.

 

[Red Rick]

Riders like Roglic are fairly simple in a way. You gotta keep them motivated. If they like their schedule where they occasionally help out a young guy out, that's great. But it's unlikely it's gonna keep him motivated if that's going to be his full time role.

And if such a transition happens, it's a very individual thing. Some great champions did gradually move to become domestiques fairly often, but many don't.

 

[ftm]

An interview with Peiper about different aspects of the sport. Considering he is working as strategic advisor for RBH and based on the sentiment of the article i guess they would rather see Rogla to become a support rider for younger riders then to start winning races again.

Allan Peiper brez dlake na jeziku: Kar zadeva Primoža Rogliča, bi si želel dvoje

"Ne vem, ali ima Primož Roglič še vedno vse, kar je potrebno za doseganje zmag na najvišji ravni, vem pa, da dela vse, da bi bil na tej ravni. Zelo malo kolesarjev trenira tako zavzeto, kot trenira on, in srečal sem zelo malo takih, ki bi bili tako predani, kot je on," je v intervjuju za Sportal...

siol.net

Hopefully for Rogla to prove them wrong in terms of reconsidering such postion. We'll see.

Absolutely disgraceful way of treating such a champ, but it just reinforces what I think it's happening behind the scenes. I don't know how much this guys is involved in rider's training and performance but he seems to be confident about Roglic having declined to a top 10 rider instead of a winner like the team was still talking about in the team camps and his recent races.

Time will tell who is right but he should shut* his big mouth and leave this sort of comments to their internal meetings.

BTW I hope he follows this guy's advice to switch to a super domestique role guiding the youngsters and goes to UAE to help Pogacar crush even more races and make this clown look like the tool he is (even more).

*Edited to avoid using colorful language, I don't want to be banned

 

[CyclistAbi]

@ftm

Peiper is a strategic advisor and somehow i doubt he even knows the numbers of any rider involved. Going public with such statement IMHO isn't a mistake either but a deliberate act, likely trying to apply some public pressure as he has no real power behind the scenes.

Anyway, other people are making decisions and the best way to see on what decisions are being made is by seeing first hand on how much Rogla is or isn't supported at some race. And even Peiper says that the way he sees it the team won't peak for a couple more years. So in the end i guess it is his own opinion, that sacrificing Rogla for younger riders would be beneficial to the team, but at the same time admitting this likely wouldn't result in more wins in terms of the team.

So luckily at least it comes down to this being a bad strategy in terms of not producing results. As such i guess it can get the middle finger and lets move on.

 

[AmRacer]

@ftm

Peiper is a strategic advisor and somehow i doubt he even knows the numbers of any rider involved. Going public with such statement IMHO isn't a mistake either but a deliberate act, likely trying to apply some public pressure as he has no real power behind the scenes.

Anyway, other people are making decisions and the best way to see on what decisions are being made is by seeing first hand on how much Rogla is or isn't supported at some race. And even Peiper says that the way he sees it the team won't peak for a couple more years. So in the end i guess it is his own opinion, that sacrificing Rogla for younger riders would be beneficial to the team, but at the same time admitting this likely wouldn't result in more wins in terms of the team.

So luckily at least it comes down to this being a bad strategy in terms of not producing results. As such i guess it can get the middle finger and lets move on.

They are thinking long term, Rogla won't race at this level for much longer.

 

[CyclistAbi]

They are thinking long term, Rogla won't race at this level for much longer.

Long term the situation is rather clear, that is a couple of years down the road, on where it all gets figured out and RBH peaks, then Rogla will do a pull or two plus a stage win or if the ambitions still to be bigger to switch to another team.

For now just have a support rider on the ultimate climb, to take the win. That is the best and likely the only way on how Rogla can teach youngsters on how to become GC winners.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Yeah, they, people in the team aligned with Peiper, they likely don't know what to do with Rogla ATM, last thing they need is for Rogla to start winning, so all in all lets do just that!

 

[Oldman]

How does a crash that happened almost a year ago explain his lack of punch and overall lower level in Tirreno and Milano-Torino?

His level hasn't dropped exaggeratedly so there is no reason to believe there is anything wrong with him in terms of still recovering from that Giro crash (no injuries that we know of) or any recent or past illness. Most rational conclusion is that his current shape has absolutely nothing to do with whatever happened last year.

In my opinion both he and the team believed in the "being better in the 2nd GT" pattern, after all that's what he was used to, regardless of how well (or badly) he ended the first GT. We all know how he's crashed out of Tours and went on to win Vueltas despite imperfect preparation, so what changed last year? I don't think that the Giro crashes were worse or particularly disruptive, I believe that the Giro - Tour combo was the issue and that he would've struggled even if he finished the Giro in one piece. That was the unknown (and risky!) variable in the 2 GTs per season pattern, and the crashes made it even more obvious.

But again, what does it have to do with the last half of his '25 season and the start of this year's? He went to altitude and underperformed twice, when he used to come down from the volcano flying.

So these two patterns (2 GTs a season with the second one being his best, achieving his top level after altitude training) have been disrupted despite them believing and expecting that they were going to work. To me the only explanation is that his body, due to age and/or all the injuries and recoveries, has had enough and does not respond as expected.

Crashes that happened years ago still affect Remco. Wout hasn't risen to his prior level and Mathieu is probably fine with his hand until he gets on Roubaix's volume of cobbles. If you break the right bone, tear the right ligament you've received a lifetime modification of potential. Some work around it well and Milano-Torino showed him just a little underaced, IMO. He responded to everything except Tom's finish and it's clear Pidcock has come in hot this early season.