Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Krzysztof_O]

Looked great for 7 seconds following Pogacars first attack.

Vuelta is so in the bag.

Today some guys got closer to the Sun than Rogla and didn't burn though.

 

[Rackham]

Today some guys got closer to the Sun than Rogla and didn't burn though.

I mean to me it's pretty obvious he was not in the top 5 climbers today. It is what it is.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

The feeling is that if a cyclist of a certain leve goes to the Vuelta, he won't win it.

Luckily for him, since the World Championships are in Canada, after the Tour many of them will opt for the preceding Canadian classics.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Considering Rogla is sixth in GC, 32s down on race leader and Lipo second, 7s down on race leader, that is rather good outcome, some predicted much worse. Rogla could easily follow Pogi, on when he went, nobody else could do that. Returning to Lipo and helping him bridge across and riding in chasing group. That is rather sensible strategy, especially considering RBH was fantastic in term of tactics and it almost came together again. Tuckwell was there in the group, so that is that. RBH still has reserves and for example with Remco they could have bridged today and likely to win a stage, being in such position. Climber section still has huge reserves.

All in all i am happy and lets race and win this thing.

 

[Red Rick]

I mean to me it's pretty obvious he was not in the top 5 climbers today. It is what it is.

I saw a thumbnail of Pogacar and Roglic in rain jackets - did it pour down early in the day?

If so it's miracle he finished.

 

[Statze2]

Well Roglic refused to sprint in the end, didn´t he? I find it kind of strange that he didn´t even tried to sprint...

 

[red_flanders]

What's wrong with you people, nobody understands sarcasm anymore? Maybe you should read the previous comments and you'll understand what my post was about. My god, chillax

Sorry bruh. I'm super chillaxed now.

Part of RBH for sure, that is doesn't want Rogla winning any more, as they would rather see some other rider do that instead and for Rogla to support such goals.

Huh.

Seems like maybe other riders are just better at this point, despite random nonsensical conspiracy theories.

 

[Berniece]

Rogla could easily follow Pogi, on when he went, nobody else could do that. Returning to Lipo and helping him bridge across

That’s not what happened

 

[CyclistAbi]

Well Roglic refused to sprint in the end, didn´t he? I find it kind of strange that he didn´t even tried to sprint...

What for should he sprint? Why would that be a good idea?

Sorry bruh. I'm super chillaxed now.

Huh.

Seems like maybe other riders are just better at this point, despite random nonsensical conspiracy theories.

Nah, Rogla is not worse. Currently it's just that they are still finding themself, as a team. On how they rode today, if they would all be practicing that together till the start of the season, then today a RBH rider would IMHO win a stage.

We'll get there, today was a good sign it's coming.

That’s not what happened

Literally.

 

[AmRacer]

What for should he sprint? Why would that be a good idea?



Nah, Rogla is not worse. Currently it's just that they are still finding themself, as a team. On how they rode today, if they would all be practicing that together till the start of the season, then today a RBH rider would IMHO win a stage.

We'll get there, today was a good sign it's coming.



Literally.

Rogla couldn't follow.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AmRacer

Of course, that is on why he is currently sixth.

 

[acm]

I saw a thumbnail of Pogacar and Roglic in rain jackets - did it pour down early in the day?

If so it's miracle he finished.

Old photo I think.

 

[red_flanders]

Nah, Rogla is not worse. Currently it's just that they are still finding themself, as a team. On how they rode today, if they would all be practicing that together till the start of the season, then today a RBH rider would IMHO win a stage.

We'll get there, today was a good sign it's coming.

This in no way addresses your earlier claims that the team had it in for Roglic. Which is silly, why would they. They simply are putting the best riders they have in the leadership role for whatever race.

And of course he was worse, he got dropped. Obviously.

Can he get better? Entirely possible. But the teams know the riders' numbers. They know who is in the best shape, and of course that's what they base their leadership decisions on, that and performance on the road.

Imagining that the team has it in for Roglic is just fanboy nonsense.

 

[CyclistAbi]

This in no way addresses your earlier claims that the team had it in for Roglic. Which is silly, why would they. They simply are putting the best riders they have in the leadership role for whatever race.

Rogla wasn't offered co-leadership for the Tour. Remco and Lipo where.

And of course he was worse, he got dropped. Obviously.

I won't complain too much today, as the team worked for Rogla and did a good job, 21s is reasonable, especially considering Rogla was the one that stomped Pogi on the hardest part and preped Lipo for the hunt. With Remco here today likely Rogla would be sprinting for stage win. So all in all i am happy and there are still reserves left. Tuckwell was there too.

Can he get better? Entirely possible. But the teams know the riders' numbers. They know who is in the best shape, and of course that's what they base their leadership decisions on, that and performance on the road.

Imagining that the team has it in for Roglic is just fanboy nonsense.

Of course Rogla is already good enough plus this for sure isn't peak form. No it's not nonsense, Peiper went out public. That opinion had nothing to do with numbers and similar it's just what makes the most sense to some.

Still, who cares in the end. We see on how riders like Lipo race, when Rogla is in the team and Rogla is not too shabby either. On top of that i don't believe the team will sacrifice Lipo for Remco or something like that, so in terms of full leadership support they don't have it figured out anyway. Would be interesting to see on how Seixas joining would stir the dynamics. So all in all instead of focusing on Rogla supporting some rider they should rather ask themself on why a GT podium contenders or better can't handle 1km of climb in their team. This is on where they have real reserves. Rogla is not the problem here. Unless some fell threatened, i guess, getting rid of Rogla won't help there. And besides Rogla isn't going anywhere anyway.

 

[CyclistAbi]

They elegantly resolved the leadership issues as Rogla has Lipo up front and Lipo has Rogla at the back. So neither can work and at the same time they pull for each other.

 

[SHAD0W93]

They elegantly resolved the leadership issues as Rogla has Lipo up front and Lipo has Rogla at the back. So neither can work and at the same time they pull for each other.

So what they’ve been doing.