how are they going to sue hendo when he's making claims against some dude called fabaro being sick and not clean? not so sure that the typo wasn't deliberate....
Interesting to read all the posturing about suing Hendo. Obvious tactic is to try to gain as much traction as possible from their outraged reaction. Then drop it like a stone.
Proceeding to litigation would be lose/lose.
Hendo would probably be forced to adopt a truth defense. Open up a passport case against Fabs Jr. in open court and call expert witnesses for each side. Disaster for Aru even if he prevailed, because we all know the passport is a Rorschach test and a political tool. And collecting would be like blood from a stone.
Still, it was gracious of Hendo to apologize.
Fabs should just accept and say, ok, I understand, I hate dopers too.
The above is all BS and speculation.
Regarding Astana license news… wow, shocking, Nibs the defending champ gets to defend his Tour title. Echo.
Someone needs to open a passport case against Cookson. Seriously, wtf is he on? Can we get some of that?
Proceeding to litigation would be lose/lose.
Hendo would probably be forced to adopt a truth defense. Open up a passport case against Fabs Jr. in open court and call expert witnesses for each side. Disaster for Aru even if he prevailed, because we all know the passport is a Rorschach test and a political tool. And collecting would be like blood from a stone.
Still, it was gracious of Hendo to apologize.
Fabs should just accept and say, ok, I understand, I hate dopers too.
The above is all BS and speculation.
Regarding Astana license news… wow, shocking, Nibs the defending champ gets to defend his Tour title. Echo.
Someone needs to open a passport case against Cookson. Seriously, wtf is he on? Can we get some of that?
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Any way Fabio should just leave it where it stands.
He's a little guy who can show how big he really is.
In his twitter apology Henderson used Aru's correct twitter handle - so by implication ...Nederick said:how are they going to sue hendo when he's making claims against some dude called fabaro being sick and not clean? not so sure that the typo wasn't deliberate....
Any way Fabio should just leave it where it stands.
He's a little guy who can show how big he really is.
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Agree with you. It's a very risky to go in front of court if biological passport can be questionned and interpreted.Je ne sais quoi said:Interesting to read all the posturing about suing Hendo. Obvious tactic is to try to gain as much traction as possible from their outraged reaction. Then drop it like a stone.
Proceeding to litigation would be lose/lose.
Hendo would probably be forced to adopt a truth defense. Open up a passport case against Fabs Jr. in open court and call expert witnesses for each side. Disaster for Aru even if he prevailed, because we all know the passport is a Rorschach test and a political tool. And collecting would be like blood from a stone.
Still, it was gracious of Hendo to apologize.
Fabs should just accept and say, ok, I understand, I hate dopers too.
The above is all BS and speculation.
Regarding Astana license news… wow, shocking, Nibs the defending champ gets to defend his Tour title. Echo.
Someone needs to open a passport case against Cookson. Seriously, wtf is he on? Can we get some of that?
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I would like know why Greg would say such a thing ? I am aware that some people will just put out tweets like these, but not even Oleg is calling people out as genuine dopers. Has he done a thing like this before ? Why would he even mention the BP if he doesn't know something ?
What I am getting at, is that you probably know something is going on before you put something like that on Twitter. Not to mention the very fast apology afterwards, which to me indicates someone has told Greg "listen buddy, we don't need that heat, even though you're right".
I truly believe Astana is that stupid. IMO Aru is just below Ritchie in terms of carreer-trajectory. He's ok but he's not nibali or basso. And to talk about him winning the Giro, that's just nonsense.
What I am getting at, is that you probably know something is going on before you put something like that on Twitter. Not to mention the very fast apology afterwards, which to me indicates someone has told Greg "listen buddy, we don't need that heat, even though you're right".
I truly believe Astana is that stupid. IMO Aru is just below Ritchie in terms of carreer-trajectory. He's ok but he's not nibali or basso. And to talk about him winning the Giro, that's just nonsense.
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You should maybe ask dude from the site veloropa who quoted an Astana press release april 21: 'Good for Astana, that it's only a stomach virus that's keeping Fabio Aru from competing at Giro del Trentino. Right?'
I think that is the source of the story of the rumoured issues w Aru's blood. Unless new stuff comes to light I would suggest that the story happened because internet site tried to be clever and or wanted to appear to 'know' stuff and other media and a known moron like Henderson picked up on it.
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Considering the teams he rode for, Aru's "career trajectory" since 2009 should roughly be synonymous with his doping intake.
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And that at the age Aru is now, Porte was losing five minutes per mountain stage in the Giro? And that Porte then went on to suck enormously for a season before turning into the Sky mountain machine we now know?
And that even then he had a year of being dreadful, mostly due to illness and injury, in the middle?
The point is, Aru's trajectory is fairly normal. He seems like a good prospect, then he jumps up the rankings in his following GTs, aged 24. It's not dissimilar to people like Quintana, except he's on (even) shadier teams. There's none of the crazy veerings in performance like Porte, nor is there a real coming out of nowhere; people thought Aru was a big talent very early on, whereas Porte because of coming from triathlon and the Aussie domestic calendar (which is a bit harder to gauge level of than Italian or Belgian U23 races) was a bit of an unknown quantity when he appeared at Saxo.
They're both very suspicious, but for different reasons and along different lines. Their career trajectories are practically nothing alike.
You do know Richie Porte has more points on CQ this year so far than Aru managed last year when he top 5ed two Grand Tours, right?danielovichdk2 said:
And that at the age Aru is now, Porte was losing five minutes per mountain stage in the Giro? And that Porte then went on to suck enormously for a season before turning into the Sky mountain machine we now know?
And that even then he had a year of being dreadful, mostly due to illness and injury, in the middle?
The point is, Aru's trajectory is fairly normal. He seems like a good prospect, then he jumps up the rankings in his following GTs, aged 24. It's not dissimilar to people like Quintana, except he's on (even) shadier teams. There's none of the crazy veerings in performance like Porte, nor is there a real coming out of nowhere; people thought Aru was a big talent very early on, whereas Porte because of coming from triathlon and the Aussie domestic calendar (which is a bit harder to gauge level of than Italian or Belgian U23 races) was a bit of an unknown quantity when he appeared at Saxo.
They're both very suspicious, but for different reasons and along different lines. Their career trajectories are practically nothing alike.
I read tweets like Hendersons to mean something like "you guys are getting away with something that we can't. I would like to join you, but since you refuse to share I will call you out."
It's dopers desperation...
It's dopers desperation...
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Point taken.
But for that matter, considering Aru as a serious Giro contender at the age 24 and with his current track-record, it's a no go.
But for that matter, considering Aru as a serious Giro contender at the age 24 and with his current track-record, it's a no go.
Aru's threats had a surprise impact
on Twitter everyone is congratulating the "best cyclist" in the world A.Valverde
doping is a thing of the past, is not cool to dope anymore
on Twitter everyone is congratulating the "best cyclist" in the world A.Valverde
doping is a thing of the past, is not cool to dope anymore
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"En lille fjer kan nok blive til fem høns!"ciranda said:
http://www.andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/ItsQuiteTrue_e.html
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just for the record: Aru lost additional 5kg prior to the Giro? So in fact he's at ~56kg at 1.83m now, which means a BMI of 16.3 including leg musculature!?
That's incredibly lean! #thinspiration
That's incredibly lean! #thinspiration
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No, he claimed to have lost 5kg because of the diarrea that allegedly made him skip the Giro del Trentino.staubsauger said:
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Which suggests to me, he sees himself in great bodyshape!
Yeah, but didn't he also claim he felt good again, already?Mayomaniac said:
Which suggests to me, he sees himself in great bodyshape!
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Yep, even if you can't eat normally because of stomach issues, you still won't lose 5kg in 3 days.Eshnar said:
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