Fancy Bears hack ADAMS system

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For instance, it was disclosed one athlete was on Advair, Synthroid, vitamin D, Allegra, Cytomel, Singulair and Tylenol, some of which are powerful and legal asthma and thyroid medication

As an asthmatic, I know what medication i take and thought I knew the asthma medication landscape reasonably well, and I haven't even heard of a couple of those. If I were in a state to need all that, I suspect wouldn't be able to get out of bed, let alone participate in highly competitive professional sports.
 
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Cake said:
From the article:

For instance, it was disclosed one athlete was on Advair, Synthroid, vitamin D, Allegra, Cytomel, Singulair and Tylenol, some of which are powerful and legal asthma and thyroid medication

As an asthmatic, I know what medication i take and thought I knew the asthma medication landscape reasonably well, and I haven't even heard of a couple of those. If I were in a state to need all that, I suspect wouldn't be able to get out of bed, let alone participate in highly competitive professional sports.

LOL. Cytomel is usually called T3 in weight lifting circles. It is used for weight loss, usually in conjunction with other drugs like Clen.
 
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How anyone can defend what is happening and has happened to clean athletes on a daily basis for several decades now is beyond me.

Keep it coming Fancybears.

Simone Biles???

Could you give me this long list of athletes that they have "exposed"? (Leaving Wiggins aside)
I don't know about Biles, but if you feel she's a victim, then take it up with the sports governing bodies, IOC and the bunch. Not with Fancy Bears.
The curtain needs to be lifted in order to protect the vast majority of clean athletes against the small minority of cheating athletes. In the process there may be some minor casualties like Biles. But the curtain still needs to be lifted. Fancybears have done their share.
Compared to the rights of clean athletes being violated on a daily basis, Biles' medical privacy being violated is a very minor concern.

Do you think there are many clean athletes in Pro Sport ? You think cheating athletes are a small minority ? A surprising and disturbing comment from a poster who spend plenty of time in The Clinic.
 

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Tienus said:
"According to WADA rules, applications for exemption permits must be filed at least 30 days prior to taking the drug"
Ugh? :confused:

On June 30, 2016, USADA employee Shelly Rodemer, who is in charge of exemption permits, sent an email to her colleagues. "It seems never ending," Rodemer wrote. - I'm getting ADHD/Prednison TUEs for athletes that are currently at the trials for T&F (track and field) and Swimming - I'm assuming I still process these even though they are already in the start of the trials?"


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thehog said:
Robert5091 said:
Tienus said:
"According to WADA rules, applications for exemption permits must be filed at least 30 days prior to taking the drug"
Ugh? :confused:

On June 30, 2016, USADA employee Shelly Rodemer, who is in charge of exemption permits, sent an email to her colleagues. "It seems never ending," Rodemer wrote. - I'm getting ADHD/Prednison TUEs for athletes that are currently at the trials for T&F (track and field) and Swimming - I'm assuming I still process these even though they are already in the start of the trials?"


:lol:

As part of Cooksons reform agenda, he's now found a replacement for Shelly to streamline the TUE process ....
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Robert5091 said:
Tienus said:
"According to WADA rules, applications for exemption permits must be filed at least 30 days prior to taking the drug"
Ugh? :confused:

A) That is wrong. For substances banned in competition it is 30 days prior to competition, not taking the drug. For substances banned at all times you have to submit as soon as you are diagnosed.

B) There are obviously provisions in place that wave the 30 day submission deadline. I'm not defending anyone here, just pointing out that such a blanket statement in an article is very misleading, especially when it's completely wrong.
 
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King Boonen said:
Robert5091 said:
Tienus said:
"According to WADA rules, applications for exemption permits must be filed at least 30 days prior to taking the drug"
Ugh? :confused:

A) That is wrong. For substances banned in competition it is 30 days prior to competition, not taking the drug. For substances banned at all times you have to submit as soon as you are diagnosed.

B) There are obviously provisions in place that wave the 30 day submission deadline. I'm not defending anyone here, just pointing out that such a blanket statement in an article is very misleading, especially when it's completely wrong.

That detail is almost a foot note in the overall TUE story.

The bottom line is that USADA has a single person to handle TUE approval; that person is flat out with requests, & it doesn't sound like anyone gives a damn. Oh, & this is after WADA took a whole crap load of asthma meds out of the loop, & reduced the TUE requests by 90% ......

The simple reality is that there is no approval process for TUEs; just a rubber stamp
 
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Has ol' Trav said anything about this, or is he still more concerned about what other countries are doing?
 
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keeponrollin said:
King Boonen said:
Robert5091 said:
Tienus said:
"According to WADA rules, applications for exemption permits must be filed at least 30 days prior to taking the drug"
Ugh? :confused:

A) That is wrong. For substances banned in competition it is 30 days prior to competition, not taking the drug. For substances banned at all times you have to submit as soon as you are diagnosed.

B) There are obviously provisions in place that wave the 30 day submission deadline. I'm not defending anyone here, just pointing out that such a blanket statement in an article is very misleading, especially when it's completely wrong.

That detail is almost a foot note in the overall TUE story.

The bottom line is that USADA has a single person to handle TUE approval;

Sorry, can you provide any evidence for this? The article up thread states that Shelly Rodemer is in charge, but no where does it say she is the only person. Also, TUEs are approved by a 3 person independent panel (yes, we all know of the one case that this has been by-passed) so unless you can also provide evidence that this isn't happening please don't make things up.

that person is flat out with requests, & it doesn't sound like anyone gives a damn. Oh, & this is after WADA took a whole crap load of asthma meds out of the loop

I'm unfamiliar with the unit "crapload" , could you define this please.

& reduced the TUE requests by 90% ......

The simple reality is that there is no approval process for TUEs; just a rubber stamp

It's pretty obvious why several asthma medications are allowed, but outwith the secondary effect of this WADA can't reduce the number of TUE applications, although I would have thought that if they did most people in the clinic would be happy?
 
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Why are we surprised ? Have previously posted the USA are the 'Kings of TUE's - They are so pious.
 
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Has ol' Trav said anything about this, or is he still more concerned about what other countries are doing?
He is chasing russians?

I thought I saw him the other day driving a fiat and was tailing a Lance Armstrong SUV. :lol:
 
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Fancy'a lastest strike is interesting. Sport is hilarious! :surprised:
Hilarious. All the other countries left Travis T dumb A@@ hanging! LOL that is what they get for acting as if they could conspire against the IOC. :lol:
 

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Fancy'a lastest strike is interesting. Sport is hilarious! :surprised:
What an embarrassment! Travis Tygart's plot to take over the world is foiled again! :lol:

Shouldn't he have known better? :rolleyes:

He certainly loves going for glory on the headlines and forgetting about the Nike Oregon Project doping back in the US. He really is a joker.
 
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Tienus said:
The company helped USADA and CCES to initiate a lawsuit against the IOC. USADA and CCES addressed to Poland, Spain, South Korea, Japan, Norway, Austria and Finland seeking for their support.

The chief of Dutch anti doping was also included in the mail. The lap dog Herman Ram calls the IOC cowards two days after the email.
http://nos.nl/rio2016/artikel/2119411-ram-laakt-ioc-onbegrijpelijk-een-onbestaanbare-situatie.html
I love those comments.

Hey you can't call us cowwards!
 
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thehog said:
Irondan said:
thehog said:
Fancy'a lastest strike is interesting. Sport is hilarious! :surprised:
What an embarrassment! Travis Tygart's plot to take over the world is foiled again! :lol:

Shouldn't he have known better? :rolleyes:

He certainly loves going for glory on the headlines and forgetting about the Nike Oregon Project doping back in the US. He really is a joker.
They are going to get the entire project (oregon nike) on Prozac that is the latest. :lol:
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
thehog said:
Irondan said:
thehog said:
Fancy'a lastest strike is interesting. Sport is hilarious! :surprised:
What an embarrassment! Travis Tygart's plot to take over the world is foiled again! :lol:

Shouldn't he have known better? :rolleyes:

He certainly loves going for glory on the headlines and forgetting about the Nike Oregon Project doping back in the US. He really is a joker.
They are going to get the entire project (oregon nike) on Prozac that is the latest. :lol:



Can someone give me the lowdown on the latest leak(s)? What's it about?