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A pure sprinter winning in a city called Bergen, now that just seems wrong.Dekker_Tifosi said:But that is an easy race, comparative to Wallonie.
I do not think he will survive the hills of Bergen, but who knows.
I'm not so sure of that, to be honest. He did already a huge effort to catch Gilbert and closed gaps on Lutsenko and Cort. If he just followed wheels, like Sagan did, and had a good position to start the sprint, he could have beaten Sagan.Valv.Piti said:Yeah he is a pretty special talent, Brian Holm always is praising him a ton but said he didn't believe he really would feature in this Worlds, said it was 2 weeks too soon with injuries and all. Just being in that selective group speaks voumes. With better tactics he probably would have gotten medal, I don't see a world where he would beat Sagan and Kristoff today. They were super strong.
Valv.Piti said:Maybe, but remember Sagan also closed a gap.. too bad there really aren't that many races left on the calendar now that he finally has hit the shape. Lets hope he doesn't have to deal with rotten luck next year.
I think you knew I referred to Paris-Tour as not that many races. Basically the only bigger race left for him to win at this point, no.yaco said:Valv.Piti said:Maybe, but remember Sagan also closed a gap.. too bad there really aren't that many races left on the calendar now that he finally has hit the shape. Lets hope he doesn't have to deal with rotten luck next year.
Paris Tours is a suitable race and he is riding the Tour of Guangxi.
Its time to win big now. Tbh I had never expected he would be this strong so Im just pleased with him showing this potential, but its frustrating how there's always something missing on the big scene. You could see how strong he was, that should bode well for his cobbled campaign where he was kinda underwhelming this year IMO, probably since he had the Giro in mind.DNP-Old said:He's already regretting his attacks and chase downs, idiot. No other way to put it.
Exactly. Don't forget, in the penultimate climb of Salmon Hill, there was a Colombian attacking. Everyone just believed and assumed it was Uran, but I am 110% sure it was Gaviria himself. He just looked at ease the whole day, which showcases his insane talent. Without proper preparation, he is still here, at age 23, contending for the win.Valv.Piti said:Its time to win big now. Tbh I had never expected he would be this strong so Im just pleased with him showing this potential, but its frustrating how there's always something missing on the big scene. You could see how strong he was, that should bode well for his cobbled campaign where he was kinda underwhelming this year IMO, probably since he had the Giro in mind.DNP-Old said:He's already regretting his attacks and chase downs, idiot. No other way to put it.
Did you see 2017 milan san remoSKSemtex said:I think Gaviria is the reason Sagan will never win MSR. Unless Le Manie will be brought back.
I think he is really special.
Can't see him winning in flanders. I think he will never have a chance of winning there, not against sagan (who is his main rival for the future). Sagan is so much better than him in those cobbled hills. Roubaix is another question.Valv.Piti said:Oh well, you win some and lose time. Looking at this season, he has showed on occasion how great he can be but it still could have been much more in my opinion. Next year there is no Boonen, no Trentin and Stybar and Terpstra have peaked (although still very good). There is no better team to ride on than QS in the spring races so he should win a semi-classic and be up there in Flanders and Roubaix. Especially looking forward to him in Roubaix, he is incredible on flat roads. And with Kittel gone he is riding the Tour as the captain and should be able to contest him in a pure sprint as probably the only guy in the peloton. Im really looking forward to it.
YEs I did. How many times more do you think he can pull this trick? An even if he be in top of the hill first again, nobody will ever bring him to the line again the way he can sprint for the win.portugal11 said:Did you see 2017 milan san remoSKSemtex said:I think Gaviria is the reason Sagan will never win MSR. Unless Le Manie will be brought back.
I think he is really special.
He just need a better team, that it is able to put a hard tempo in both cipressa and poggio. Gaviria doesn't have the endurance and climbing ability of sagan, so sagan can beat him like he did today.SKSemtex said:YEs I did. How many times more do you think he can pull this trick? An even if he be in top of the hill first again, nobody will ever bring him to the line again the way he can sprint for the win.portugal11 said:Did you see 2017 milan san remoSKSemtex said:I think Gaviria is the reason Sagan will never win MSR. Unless Le Manie will be brought back.
I think he is really special.
Lol no. Gaviria exactly showed his endurance and climbing ability in this race, MSR isn't harder than this. Then you add the pretty shitty prep. If anything Gaviria just ruined it for himself (not saying he would have beaten Sagan).portugal11 said:He just need a better team, that it is able to put a hard tempo in both cipressa and poggio. Gaviria doesn't have the endurance and climbing ability of sagan, so sagan can beat him like he did today.SKSemtex said:YEs I did. How many times more do you think he can pull this trick? An even if he be in top of the hill first again, nobody will ever bring him to the line again the way he can sprint for the win.portugal11 said:Did you see 2017 milan san remoSKSemtex said:I think Gaviria is the reason Sagan will never win MSR. Unless Le Manie will be brought back.
I think he is really special.
This I agree with. Lets see if Peter Kennaugh, can pace him down to the lineportugal11 said:He just need a better team, that it is able to put a hard tempo in both cipressa and poggio. Gaviria doesn't have the endurance and climbing ability of sagan, so sagan can beat him like he did today.SKSemtex said:YEs I did. How many times more do you think he can pull this trick? An even if he be in top of the hill first again, nobody will ever bring him to the line again the way he can sprint for the win.portugal11 said:Did you see 2017 milan san remoSKSemtex said:I think Gaviria is the reason Sagan will never win MSR. Unless Le Manie will be brought back.
I think he is really special.
Nah, he was fresh, he just gassed himself over 2 kilometres and only was caught with 1 kilometre to go which is the real reason his sprint suffered. He would at least have gotten 3rd had he not, assuming he wasn't caught up in something.Gigs_98 said:Don't know if todays race was a good sign for the future. He showed that he can get over hills but his sprint really suffered from the hard racing. Said differently, he might have difficulties winning a sprint in MSR and RVV and PR are even harder.