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del1962 said:Do we call Luiz a defender?![]()
Nah, he's more of an entertainer. A position wildly underestimated in football.
del1962 said:Do we call Luiz a defender?![]()
Rechtschreibfehler said:Well not completly. Sadly Gündogan and the Benders didn't make it. But players who weren't at the core of the team are now regular starters like Hummels, Boateng (as a CB), Götze, Reus, Schürrle, Kroos (though he was very close in 2012) Draxler (even though he season has been bad and he wasn't a part of the 2012 team) Schmelzer (he might not make it cause he was injured to much). Plus there are new ones which haven't been in the squad for years (Großkreutz) or are really new to the team. Ginter, Mustafi, Kramer, Volland, Durm (who will be CF Nr. 2 behind Klose). Also Poldi has lost his place to the new Wingers and is now mostly sidelined.
But yeah, most of them got 2 years older, won silverware and or made it to the CL Final (again). Half of the team will still be 25 years old or even younger.
Rechtschreibfehler said:Well I know that you love living in the past, probably you'd most prefer the late 19th century, but just because you've only seen 80ies Footballers that doesn't mean anyone who didn't play in that decade is "utter crap".
Rechtschreibfehler said:Schweinsteiger ... Lahm ... Müller
Rechtschreibfehler said:On one thing I am with you though, there have been great Generations of German footballers, and to single this one out is nonsense. But well, I guess you are going to explain to me next how utter rubbish Beckenbauer was and that he only managed to win things because Uli Hoeneß made a deal with the Belzebub itself.
Rechtschreibfehler said:Ah, I love Germans when it comes to Football, nothing turns their brains of like it. And nowhere do we thrive as much in what we are great at: hating people, being cynic and blaming evil "others" for everything that is wrong in our lifes.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:... or just seeing facing facts. I am sorry I don´t believe in fairytales.
Rechtschreibfehler said:As far as I know, no one of the guys in the team have two passports, but I don't know what that would say about their quality anyway. Does having a Turkish passport turn footballers in to bad players? Does it make them mentally week?
Rechtschreibfehler said:Also none of them is a ghetto boy you know. And no - Boateng might be black, but that doesn't mean that he's from a ghetto, there is no causality between skin colour and living in ghettos! He's actually from Charlottenburg I believe. Özil also isn't from a ghetto, you know there isn't a correlation between a Turkish background and living in a ghettho either.
Rechtschreibfehler said:And well 3 great Players you say? I guess do decided not to even look up who the others I listen even were did you? All of those crappy players, who are from a crap youth system (you did miss the last decade in football entirely didn't you?) How come 12 of them played in a Champions League final?
Rechtschreibfehler said:7 even won the thing! 15 of them play for some of the best teams in the world. If they are so bad? How is that even possible.
Rechtschreibfehler said:But I guess you have some kind of conspiricy theory
Rechtschreibfehler said:to get you out of this hole, or more likely even simply ignore the facts and go on being hateful and hoping that all the players with those weird names go away. Özil, Khedira, Boateng, Mustafi.... oh wait
Rechtschreibfehler said:But atleast you can still sing the first verse of the Deutschlandlied when all of this makes you sad.
alspacka said:One question; What has Stefan Kießling done. or not done, to be so consistently overlooked?
Amsterhammer said:I think it's marvelous to see two Germans talking footy in English.![]()
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Arrogant Löw got into a feud with him. As with Ballack and Kuranyi before. The players never put on a national jersey anymore... You know, Germany has a too deep talent pool, so it can easily relinquish even all time greats like Ballack, or top scorers in the Bundesliga (Kießling). As if we have times like the 80s when top scorers in Germany literally fell from the blue sky...
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Arrogant Löw got into a feud with him. As with Ballack and Kuranyi before. The players never put on a national jersey anymore... You know, Germany has a too deep talent pool, so it can easily relinquish even all time greats like Ballack, or top scorers in the Bundesliga (Kießling). As if we have times like the 80s when top scorers in Germany literally fell from the blue sky...
alspacka said:One question; What has Stefan Kießling done. or not done, to be so consistently overlooked?
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Here is the next but usual every-half-a-year soccer fixing scandal:
Fixed Soccer Matches Cast Shadow Over World Cup
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/sports/soccer/fixed-matches-cast-shadow-over-world-cup.html?_r=1
Enjoy the upcoming cheater games. LOL.
How did "TheHitch" explain it so cute; "It´s too difficult to fix a game".![]()
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alspacka said:I see. Does seem pretty crazy considering Klose hasn't had the best of seasons, and can barely run anymore.
What do you make of Volland? I saw him only a couple of times but he didn't have much impact.
Also, I read your previous post and it seems a bit odd to say that Germany is not the home country of 3 players (I don't know about Mustafi) who were born there, whilst supporting Klose, who wasn't.
gooner said:The Sun today over here have a story about a Nigerian football agent planning to fix games during the tournament.
An undercover reporter caught him out. There was another Nigerian person with him who said it was 50,000 euros for a yellow card and a 100,000 grand for a penalty.
He said he has 2 Nigerian players already arranged for a fix and was planning to recruit more. One of the players is supposed to well-known and was in the Nigerian squad that played against Scotland this week. Remember there was big suspicions about this game.
He also mentioned he had 5 Italian players who rig games for him. Don't know if these were internationals or guys down the lower echelons of Italian football.
Very worrying.
gooner said:Low was right to lay down the law to Ballack when he challenged his authority for not selecting Torsten Frings.
Ballack was getting too big for his boots.
The Hitch said:No, i said it's difficult and not worth the hassle to fix an entire tournament. Not one match. Bit of a difference.
There aren't weaker sides than Italy when it comes to friendlies.gooner said:Very disappointed in the Italians when they played Ireland last night(0-0). It wasn't a full strength Italian side(it was the same for Ireland with players missing) but still one with plenty of quality.
I felt we had the better chances and were unlucky not to win.
Encouraging from our own point of view and I think O'Neill is on the right track with this squad.
What a downer about Montolivo's injury. Big loss.
l.Harm said:Foxxy![]()
What's wrong about having two passports, are you xenophobic or something.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:You got a link? I am really interested... We had a good docu here some time ago (at ARTE). Big league players fixed games hand in hand with the Asian syndicates.... FIFA (corrupt to the core) doesn´t do enough against it. It took them four years to investigate the 2010 test games, without having penalized anyone (see the latest link). It´s pretty obvious they like the games being fixed, otherwise they would at least implement video replay, and don´t have poor refs from 3rd world countries directing games in the World Cup (they certainly would fix a game for 3.000 $. A yearly income in those countries. You can´t get the fix much cheaper). But what can one expect if the leaders themselves are rotten to the core (Blatter, Warner, for example)... In 2010, 50% of games had a different outcome than without major referee blunders (see Weinreich).
Grown up men could talk it out. Löw doesn´t posses that mentality. Ballack was the player for Germany. A little respect should have been possible. Anyway that is Löws approach: You are with me, or you are against me
gooner said:The Sun is behind a paywall but the Daily Mail have just put the story up.
gooner said:The New York Times today are after getting their hands on documents detailing match fixing around the last World Cup.
gooner said:He did though. He told Ballack to fly to Germany and apologise or else he may lose his place. Ballack did but when he missed the World Cup Low wanted to give him the opportunity after the World Cup to play in a friendly to give him a send off as thanks for his contribution to the national team. Ballack refused thinking he was above it.
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Was faster than you. Already linked it last night.![]()
[Isn´t that pretty low by Löw? Embarassing a player like that? One who basically (together with Kahn) gave Germany a Vize Championship in 2002, and brought them trou misery for a decade?
I would have refused too. The only thing possible.
gooner said:Missing the World Cup through injury was a bad way to go...
