Teams & Riders Filippo Ganna Discussion Thread

[Netserk]

Ganna is just overrated. Once again, he will crack on Paris Roubaix, a race where guys like him should dominate or at least compete ftw.

the problem is ineos and that turner hasnt been good since his illness

ganna has been great , but just with a different form curve compared to last year and then done too much pulling in front of a peloton instead of being set up by his team

 

[Brullnux]

Ganna is just overrated. Once again, he will crack on Paris Roubaix, a race where guys like him should dominate or at least compete ftw.

He isn't overrated, he just has key flaws that affect him in big races. He's huge, bigger than Cancellara ever was, which affects his climbing in Flemish classics; he is really rough over bad cobbles, which affects him at Paris-Roubaix. Even the year he was involved in the front group, he'd lose about 5 metres every corner.

But on the flat he is a monster. I don't think anybody else can drag a peloton or attacker back like he can.

 

[canina82]

He isn't overrated, he just has key flaws that affect him in big races. He's huge, bigger than Cancellara ever was, which affects his climbing in Flemish classics; he is really rough over bad cobbles, which affects him at Paris-Roubaix. Even the year he was involved in the front group, he'd lose about 5 metres every corner.

But on the flat he is a monster. I don't think anybody else can drag a peloton or attacker back like he can.

He is the definition of overrated. He is rated every year as a potential winner of PR and he never was close to win the race.

 

[Brullnux]

He is the definition of overrated. He is rated every year as a potential winner of PR and he never was close to win the race.

He's tried properly only twice and he was pretty close in 2023. Everyone knows he's a level below Wout, VdP, Pedersen, and now Pogacar too. But he's rated in the group below them (with Philipsen et al) which is entirely fair given his record and characteristics.

Like I said, everyone knows he has fundamental issues that limit him in Paris-Roubaix. In a perfect race he can overcome them, more realistically he gets dropped and fights for the podium/top five. He just wastes so much energy making up ground in the harder cobbled sections that unless he fixes it or the other favourites play games behind him and let him TT to the finish, it is so hard to win.

 

[Netserk]

He is the definition of overrated. He is rated every year as a potential winner of PR and he never was close to win the race.

was he underrated when he beat pogi in sanremo last year ?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He is the definition of overrated. He is rated every year as a potential winner of PR and he never was close to win the race.

Not overrated at all. According to the following site his odds for PR are in middle teens (some sites list him at 30 or 40). Not only Van der Poel & Pogacar (who dominate the odds) but also a few other guys have shorter odds.

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/paris-roubaix/winner

 

[canina82]

was he underrated when he beat pogi in sanremo last year ?

If you don't, just say you don't agree.
He beated Pogacar because MVP was there. The same thing happened with Van Baarle in 2022 RVV.

 

[Netserk]

If you don't, just say you don't agree.
He beated Pogacar because MVP was there. The same thing happened with Van Baarle in 2022 RVV.

was that a yes or a no ?

 

[Brullnux]

Not overrated at all. According to the following site his odds for PR are in middle teens (some sites list him at 30 or 40). Not only Van der Poel & Pogacar (who dominate the odds) but also a few other guys have shorter odds.

https://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/paris-roubaix/winner

This is fair to me. A two/three star outsider. If anything he should be above Vermeersch, as there's no way Vermeersch wins bc Pogacar won't let him – he has a better chance in Flanders, where at least Pogacar has won a few times.