Florian Lipowitz is the new German GC hope discussion thread

[Hugo Koblet]

If he can remain this form, he's probably the third biggest favorite for third place in the Tour behind Almeida and Evenepoel.

 

[Links2003]

Depends on how he prepared for the Dauphiné. If this is his peak, then it's better to wait for the Vuelta. If he prepared with an eye on the Tour and is confident that he can maintain this form or improve it for the next 6 weeks, then he should be a protected rider in the Tour.

The Dauphine was his main goal. For that he was planned as the captain.
But the Vuelta this year is not an option because Jai and Alex will get the chance for GC - that was the plan from the begin of the saison.
Officially RBH will decide if Lipo will you to the Tour after the Dauphine.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

The Dauphine was his main goal. For that he was planned as the captain.
But the Vuelta this year is not an option because Jai and Alex will get the chance for GC - that was the plan from the begin of the saison.
Officially RBH will decide if Lipo will you to the Tour after the Dauphine.

Alex? As in Vlasov? The way he's been riding the last year, I have a hard time believing he will be the leader of any race anytime soon.

 

[TrekCyclist]

With his riding style and also hight/weight, maybe the longer climbs in TdF and Giro suit him more than mountain sprinting in Vuelta.

 

[Miha81]

The Dauphine was his main goal. For that he was planned as the captain.
But the Vuelta this year is not an option because Jai and Alex will get the chance for GC - that was the plan from the begin of the saison.
Officially RBH will decide if Lipo will you to the Tour after the Dauphine.

Maybe they should try and include him in TDF squad as a dark horse. Main contenders do not see him as a threat so given the right circumstances this could be exploited.

 

[Links2003]

Maybe they should try and include him in TDF squad as a dark horse. Main contenders do not see him as a threat so given the right circumstances this could be exploited.

In its current form, you will certainly take him with you to the tour. Otherwise you won't have many climbers for the Tour this year.

To protect him, I think Roglic will officially be the captain. Then they just have to decide whether they want to go for the podium and bet everything on Roglic or whether Lipo should try how far he comes. But that also means that Roglic would have no help in case of a small problem and his chances would dwindle.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I mean protected from whom? I doubt that any level of protection to play a big role. I find such suggestions in the same level as lets send sprinters, stage hunters ... Not serious.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Very strong again! By far the best of humans today.

 

[jmdirt]

Solid race young man!

 

[scribers]

In on page 7!

 

[Red Rick]

Depends on how he prepared for the Dauphiné. If this is his peak, then it's better to wait for the Vuelta. If he prepared with an eye on the Tour and is confident that he can maintain this form or improve it for the next 6 weeks, then he should be a protected rider in the Tour.

I'd think peaking for the Dauphine may just means coming down from altitude a few days earlier just to make sure you get the benefit from that first camp in the Dauphine before going back to altitude.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Sorry i wasnt aware of this thread. How exciting it is to have a legit contender again after two decades of pretenders, Freuds and failures.

 

[Links2003]

I'd think peaking for the Dauphine may just means coming down from altitude a few days earlier just to make sure you get the benefit from that first camp in the Dauphine before going back to altitude.

If it were that easy, several athletes would try it.
I don't even know if it will go on altitude training camp.
He can certainly still ride a good tour, but it's a different story when you're in top form now or actually want to be in 3 weeks' time.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The highlight of the CdD disaster. Keep up the exploratory race action please. Test the bots here and there even if it doesn't work out.

 

[iBanesto]

FloLip - https://www.rouleur.cc/blogs/the-ro...c8ZDchFd60FesEZI7_PpmaqdpoggzYtTKIDQ4D4KUNtD7

“I started biathlon when I was seven or eight after my brother Philipp had first got into it because we had a biathlon arena quite close to our home,” Lipowitz, 24, tells Rouleur. He was raised in the Swabian Alps in south-west Germany. “But we didn’t have too much snow, so when I was 14 and my brother was 15, we went to boarding school in Austria.” Minor correction: they were enrolled in the ski academy, the Stams Ski High School in Tirol, Austria, which has produced more Olympic and world champions than anywhere else. The Lipowitz brothers were very good: Florian winning national event races and always figuring in the top 10, and Philipp becoming junior world champion in 2021. “We wanted to be pro and go to World Cups, and that was the place to be,” Florian, a year younger than Philipp, says. “Most people thought I would have a biathlon career.”

But injuries, first knee-related and then a torn ACL sustained on a kite-surfing holiday, gradually killed off the skiing dreams of the younger Lipowtiz.

 

[No Excuses]

He will finish ahead of remco

 

[CyclistAbi]

Strong performance at Dauphiné, finishing third.

 

[geisterhome]

I believe it when I see it.

I've seen too many riders have a flash in the Dauphine before completely bricking at the TdF. You also just expect Evenepoel to be a lot better than this at the Tour.

Having said that, letting him stay in the peloton if everyone else has to wait for Roglic if something happens is a no brainer for me. He can be a back up top 5 candidate

If it were that easy, several athletes would try it.
I don't even know if it will go on altitude training camp.
He can certainly still ride a good tour, but it's a different story when you're in top form now or actually want to be in 3 weeks' time.

Why would he be peaking for the Dauphine though, can that be kind of a bluff?

I mean peaking for exactly that race doesnt seem like a smart idea if I want to achieve smth in the GC in a WT stage race. Usually lots of tour contenders are taking part in close to top shape. Plus they usually make it to the end of the race as well unlike at the TDF. So beforehand the chance to end up at the very top end of the GC there are lower than in most other races, probably less likely than at any GC where at least some of the top stars drop out of the 3 weeks.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Why would he be peaking for the Dauphine though, can that be kind of a bluff?

I mean peaking for exactly that race doesnt seem like a smart idea if I want to achieve smth in the GC in a WT stage race. Usually lots of tour contenders are taking part in close to top shape. Plus they usually make it to the end of the race as well unlike at the TDF. So beforehand the chance to end up at the very top end of the GC there are lower than in most other races, probably less likely than at any GC where at least some of the top stars drop out of the 3 weeks.

Lipowitz/Bora said when they announced their main goals/schedules at the start of the season, that Dauphine would be his biggest goal this year and that he would ride in service of Roglic in other races (I don't remember exactly how that part was worded).

 

[SafeBet]

Regardless of his early season goals, there's really no harm in sending him to the Tour and see how long he can keep up with the podium contenders.
If Roglic proves to be stronger than him in the first 2 weeks and stays on his bike, then Lipo switches to a domestique role.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Regardless of his early season goals, there's really no harm in sending him to the Tour and see how long he can keep up with the podium contenders.
If Roglic proves to be stronger than him in the first 2 weeks and stays on his bike, then Lipo switches to a domestique role.

I agree. It's not like he's in danger over over racing. In fact, his schedule has been pretty light this year.