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Parrulo said:
Not everything is perfect for me either.

While you complain about the freds, since all freds and non freds in my area ride MTB that means i mostly ride solo which is why i rarely do long rides. Longest i have done solo was 4 and a half hours and my normal ride is is between 1 and half, 2 and a half hours.

I also doubt you guys have an arch nemesis on the road!! Freaking Focus bike guy <_<

LMAO ... oh ya that is funny . I hope you have evasive road courses you can peel off on when Focus Bike guy comes . Then ride incognito. Put in the miles in secret .
 
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It's to stop you getting divebombed by magpies in the early spring. They get very VERY viscious after they lay their eggs! Not sure that it works though and some think they are necessary all year round. Check out this blast from the past:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=9967&highlight=reason+Magpie+Season

oh ya I have heard what you all have to deal with! Those birds get nuts don't they?
lol the pic with the ties…now that looks really wacky…but better than getting pecked to death. :D I would devise some sort of propeller that was wind-motioned
 
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mewmewmew13 said:
oh ya I have heard what you all have to deal with! Those birds get nuts don't they?
lol the pic with the ties…now that looks really wacky…but better than getting pecked to death. :D I would devise some sort of propeller that was wind-motioned

Careful.. Being called a Propeller Head is not a term of endearment...
 
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RedheadDane said:
Sorry for being really dumb, but what exactly is a "Fred"?
Textbook definition of a Fred (in my mind anyway)

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All that's missing is a disproportionally expensive bike computer (or iPhone mount) and some Shimano MTB pedals.
 
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42x16ss said:
Textbook definition of a Fred (in my mind anyway)

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All that's missing is a disproportionally expensive bike computer (or iPhone mount) and some Shimano MTB pedals.

To be honest i always thought that a fat middle age man ridding a high end bike, dressed on a recent team kit that continuously talks about how his soon to arrive, 2g lighter, new wheels/bike/etc will make him a much better climber is the true definition of a fred.
 
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stainlessguy1 said:
LMAO ... oh ya that is funny . I hope you have evasive road courses you can peel off on when Focus Bike guy comes . Then ride incognito. Put in the miles in secret .

I have met Focus bike guy 3 times on saturdays around 4pm in my favourite riding area (i don't think drivers even know that main road exists :p) and 3 times that ******* has passed me like if i was standing still while politely saying hi. Really unpleasant!!!!

First time i was on a MTB, but the other 2. . :eek:
 
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Parrulo said:
To be honest i always thought that a fat middle age man ridding a high end bike, dressed on a recent team kit that continuously talks about how his soon to arrive, 2g lighter, new wheels/bike/etc will make him a much better climber is the true definition of a fred.
There are those too. The type usually wears a bandana, only ever rides in zone 3/4 @ 75 rpm and has charity rides pencilled in as the years main events?
 
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Parrulo said:
To be honest i always thought that a fat middle age man ridding a high end bike, dressed on a recent team kit that continuously talks about how his soon to arrive, 2g lighter, new wheels/bike/etc will make him a much better climber is the true definition of a fred.


Alas aren't we all a little closer to this definition than we care to admit? :eek:
 
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Parrulo said:
I have met Focus bike guy 3 times on saturdays around 4pm in my favourite riding area (i don't think drivers even know that main road exists :p) and 3 times that ******* has passed me like if i was standing still while politely saying hi. Really unpleasant!!!!

First time i was on a MTB, but the other 2. . :eek:

Parrulo , is there any chance you can vary your course by riding it the other way around , I have found that when I just want to ride alone without all the pleasantries , I just ride all courses backwards and all I have to do is the cool hand salute .
That solves that problem . Ahhh peace and quiet again . :D
 
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Parrulo said:
To be honest i always thought that a fat middle age man ridding a high end bike, dressed on a recent team kit that continuously talks about how his soon to arrive, 2g lighter, new wheels/bike/etc will make him a much better climber is the true definition of a fred.

There are two definitions of "fred." The original is a cyclist with a severe lack of style that can be summed up as "not one of us." For some reason, maybe ignorance, the term is often used to refer to poseurs.
 
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fred

1. Fred
Some obnoxious kid on YouTube who tries to be funny by speeding up his voice and making it high pitched. All he does is talk about random stuff in that annoying-*** voice the whole time. And yes, I've watched it and it is awful. I honestly do not know how people think this garbage is funny.
Person1: Hey, do you wanna go on YouTube. I think there's a new Fred video up.
Person2: No way, Fred sucks. He isn't even funny, he's just annoying.


2.Fred
A person who does stupid, annoying, or idiotic things.
That fred over there won't shut up!

3. Fred
The most over rated person on YouTube. He is a tennager that runs around in circles saying random things. He punches himself in the balls so he has a really high-pitched voice. Sadly, over one million people think his videos are funny. He has no talent.
Bob: Did you see the new Fred video? He's so funny!

Joe: *facepalm*

4. Fred
Fred n. 1) a person who spends a lot of money on his bike and clothing, but still can't ride, Poser. 2) A person who has a mishmash of old gear, doesn't care at all about technology or fashion, didn't race or follow racing, etc. Often identified by chain ring marks on white calf socks. Myth has it that "Fred" was actually a well-known grumpy old touring rider.

Some Freds are actually powerful riders that just don't care what others think.
1. Me and Jerry were riding flat out when some Fred on a rusty, Schwinn World blew past us like we were standing still. We tried to catch him but he was too fast.

2. Check out that guy! He's 100 pound over weight and his bike is a Lance Armstrong replica. The dude even has the Discovery Team kit. He must have spent 7 grand. What a Fred.

5. Fred

Someone who posts on cyclingnews forum and is serious about it. (Like Yo serious yo)They demand research and evidence documentation for every idea in your reply to their own dogmatic statement. They are a proud few. They were here first and will tell you. Their participation here makes them part of the Peloton. They are fit boy and they tell you again. No one knows more about crank arm length then them and when it comes to doping, these same content police have all the sources who will remain nameless because they are part of the Peloton and after all the poster is part of them. They hate popular cycling and anything they didnt think of first. They become mods and go after all the personalities they dont like. These few select men broke all the doping news.

1. dude did you check the crank arm length thread, these two dudes in there have been talking to each other about the same thing since 2007. What Freds

2. There is one poster on cyclingnews who thinks LA has a hit out on him. What did he do? Call Lance a Fred?

3. I was reading the gear section of cyclingnews, dude there are these shop monkeys all bitter because no one buys laced wheels anymore in there who hate on everything. a couple of retro freds.
 
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Boeing said:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fred

2) A person who has a mishmash of old gear, doesn't care at all about technology or fashion, didn't race or follow racing, etc. Often identified by chain ring marks on white calf socks. Myth has it that "Fred" was actually a well-known grumpy old touring rider.

Some Freds are actually powerful riders that just don't care what others think.
1. Me and Jerry were riding flat out when some Fred on a rusty, Schwinn World blew past us like we were standing still. We tried to catch him but he was too fast.

I actually ran across a guy who fits the description of the bolded on the club run a couple of weekends ago. Bike was dirty, he had an ancient Mapei/AIS jersey on and Shimano MTB pedals but went like the clappers and was probably the best bike handler in the bunch.

Got talking to him afterwards and found out that the AIS jersey was from when he was at the AIS and he is getting back in to cycling socially (no racing). Turns out that we raced each other a few times as juniors and knew a couple of the same guys!

Moral: Not all "Freds" are Freds!
 
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You could troll lower cat races wearing a peak on your helmet and fenders on the bike - even if it hasn't rained for weeks :D
 
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Some buddies and I rode from SF to SB a few years back. Follow cars, nice hotels, etc. We ran into this "Fred"

Riding a single speed Schwinn from the Canadian boarder to Mexico

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One of the coolest, hardest, guys you will ever meet.

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Some Freds are awesome
 
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Race Radio said:
Some buddies and I rode from SF to SB a few years back. Follow cars, nice hotels, etc. We ran into this "Fred"

Riding a single speed Schwinn from the Canadian boarder to Mexico

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One of the coolest, hardest, guys you will ever meet.

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Some Freds are awesome

that is all kinds of awesome. I can not imagine the immensity of the F@#K he does not give.
 
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42x16ss said:
I actually ran across a guy who fits the description of the bolded on the club run a couple of weekends ago. Bike was dirty, he had an ancient Mapei/AIS jersey on and Shimano MTB pedals but went like the clappers and was probably the best bike handler in the bunch.

Got talking to him afterwards and found out that the AIS jersey was from when he was at the AIS and he is getting back in to cycling socially (no racing). Turns out that we raced each other a few times as juniors and knew a couple of the same guys!

Moral: Not all "Freds" are Freds!

Ditto to that , Not all Freds are Freds in the term modern cyclists jargon identifies Freds .
Some of us X racers still have all our old kits and we like to use them because we still can. Having said that , some of us also had hard times in areas of employment that left us saying wtf a lot .
So anyone calling us Freds , just note we raced races before you were all born, or at least were very little and only dreaming of racing .
Old Riders still have style and I think on Cipo's style points scale we can out do most of you hipsters with style and smooth riding skills .

Ps , I have had nothing but compliments on my kit and old racing machine in any group ride , or gran fondo or other . A bike of over 35 years with original paint and wool jersey intact all looking brand new , commands respect .
No one says a word when I close the gaps .
So I agree , with 42by16 .... not all Freds are Freds . :cool:
 
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Boeing said:
that is all kinds of awesome. I can not imagine the immensity of the F@#K he does not give.

I would NEVER call this guy a Fred…!!
looks like he is having all sorts of a great time and I like the solitary adventurer mentality.

Looks do not define that term to me…its too elusive. My mind reverts to that word when someone acts like an idiot on a bike concurrently usually trying to be a 'poser' ..
more an attitude than a look.

I'm pretty sure I have been cast a sideways glance a time or two…but I'm old enough that I don't give a feck…and I ride hard in my mind :)
 
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Boeing said:
that is all kinds of awesome. I can not imagine the immensity of the F@#K he does not give.

This guy is a CYCLIST. We racers are posers by comparison. Feel the same way about bad weather commuters; they have heart.
 
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Ditto

mewmewmew13 said:
I would NEVER call this guy a Fred…!!
looks like he is having all sorts of a great time and I like the solitary adventurer mentality.

Looks do not define that term to me…its too elusive. My mind reverts to that word when someone acts like an idiot on a bike concurrently usually trying to be a 'poser' ..
more an attitude than a look.

I'm pretty sure I have been cast a sideways glance a time or two…but I'm old enough that I don't give a feck…and I ride hard in my mind :)

Ditto that , he is not a Fred , he is an elderly gentleman enjoying his ride and living his life the way HE is capable of whether by choice or by chance or fate. Thumbs up to him . wishing him many happy miles without flats . :D
 
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stainlessguy1 said:
... he is not a Fred , he is an elderly gentleman...
Say what?!:) "Fred" is not a 'description' I've ever used. I've heard
it and seen it used, and from context it seemed to mean someone
that the poseur who was using the terminology was jealous or
envious of for some, usually unstated, reason.
 
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Oldman said:
This guy is a CYCLIST. We racers are posers by comparison. Feel the same way about bad weather commuters; they have heart.

Well I kindof disagree with this .
The old gentleman and the commuters that go out in all sorts of weather , vs./ we x racers and racers of today , are not posers because we elect to not travel around the world , or push our bike across a desert , just to show it can be done.
We aren't posers either if we disagree with events like the Raam and any other type of sport that pushes the boundaries of sleep deprivation .

The thing is to keep learning if you love cycling> , racing , commuting , touring or any thing else on 2 wheels .
Most people will find out that with commuting which can lead to touring , and finally to racing , is a natural progression . By the time one joins a club and gets the finer points and the history of the sport , one can become a good cyclist and not an annoying Fred .

WE aren't posers by comparison , instead we are one of many types of cyclists and hopefully if we have been around long enough and or retired and coming back we can give direction to those that are starting out new in the sport so they don't become Freds or posers for Real .