From a doping point of view, what do you expect Froom in the vuelta?

[maxmartin]

Maybe I should rephrase this, what kinda performance do you expect from him in vuelta?
What kinds performance will make you think he might be clean?
What kinds performance will make you think he might be dirty?

 

[iZnoGouD]

I wonder what will other teams do now that they are aware that cyclists are starting to dope again

 

[maxmartin]

I wonder what will other teams do now that they are aware that cyclists are starting to dope again

sadly but might be good for viewing eyes, next year tour fight would be more interesting and close

 

[Krebs cycle]

I wonder what will other teams do now that they are aware that cyclists are starting to dope again

What do you mean "starting to dope again"? Since when did they stop?

 

[Cavalier]

Making me think he's dirty - dropping and/or beating Contador.
Clean? Not finishing on the podium as he's so exhausted from a pretty intensive last two months.

I expect something in between.

 

[Darryl Webster]

Maybe I should rephrase this, what kinda performance do you expect from him in vuelta?
What kinds performance will make you think he might be clean?
What kinds performance will make you think he might be dirty?

If the regimen / form ( take your pick) he had at the TDF continues and he has free reign ( there,s no Wiggo or Yates shouting at him to hold back ) I think he,s gonna batter the living b, jesus out of everyone , especially when the roads go very steep.
TDF condition, barring accident or really bad tactical error I think he,s a dead cert for a convincing win.
Clean? ..I very, very much doubt.

 

[The Hitch]

Despite all these sarcastic comments about how good Froome will be in the Vuelta, the reality is that he will probably be tired from the Tour and will either do well in the first week, hold on near the end and get possible top 5, or fail completely.

 

[BroDeal]

The blood doping equivalent of a fatty boom batty blunt.

Inside the Sky follow vehicle.

 

[maxmartin]

Despite all these sarcastic comments about how good Froome will be in the Vuelta, the reality is that he will probably be tired from the Tour and will either do well in the first week, hold on near the end and get possible top 5, or fail completely.

so in other words, if Froom make the podium or even win the whole thing, that will make you think he is on the juice.

 

[the sceptic]

Even if Froome was a talented rider it would be highly suspicious if he could keep the year long peak going.

 

[No_Balls]

Sadly, i think he will pull off a terrific Vuelta. Which, in this case, is not a good thing for his credibility.

*When he is not a dominant force. Fighting just to keep in touch with the big guns. Getting the fringale at some point. Some indication that he is human which, turn the clock back just one year, would have made me a laughing stock if i had said anything like that before.

*If he put a rested AC to the task. That would sum it up really. Still i am very much afraid we will se this skyrocketing robot yet again climbing up every col throwed at him like if his life depended on it.

 

[krinaman]

I wonder what will other teams do now that they are aware that cyclists are starting to dope again

They stopped?

 

[BotanyBay]

Does Froome have an established doping reputation, or are you just trying to start one?

 

[maxmartin]

Does Froome have an established doping reputation, or are you just trying to start one?

that is the exact question I am asking here?
what performance from Froom in this vuelta will make you think he is establishing his doping history or he is clean? And situation is especially interesting, since he just finished a fantastic Tour as the strongest rider in 2012 tour.

 

[BotanyBay]

I think you're seeking trouble. Those who look for it, usually find what they're looking for. Wait for the data. The data holds the truth.

 

[maxmartin]

I think you're seeking trouble. Those who look for it, usually find what they're looking for. Wait for the data. The data holds the truth.

if you don't like the discussion in this thread, please walk away. This is Clinic after all.

 

[Big Doopie]

*If he put a rested AC to the task. That would sum it up really.

i just don't get why comparisons with contadope are still used.

we have absolutely zero -- zero --idea how good contadope is for real. every single one of his performances to date have been aided by blood doping.

given that -- how can comparisons with contadope tell us anything at all?

when serial dopers continue to be treated as champions with natural talent (see Vino, see Armstrong, see Valverde) we only give riders one more reason to dope...

 

[hrotha]

No matter how badly Froome does at the Vuelta, what we saw at the Dauphiné and the Tour can't be undone.

 

[bangnz]

If hes doping already and getting away with it i dont see why he wouldnt in the Vuelta?

This being his first shot at team leader in a GT why pull the plug out now

 

[maxmartin]

Froom is definitely setting himself up, he even went as far as Tour and Olympics were more of a mental thing for him not really physical. I think he is extremely confident at this point about good results in Vuelta.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...race-alberto-contador-on-his-home-turf_234661

 

[airstream]

Despite all these sarcastic comments about how good Froome will be in the Vuelta, the reality is that he will probably be tired from the Tour and will either do well in the first week, hold on near the end and get possible top 5, or fail completely.

The fact that the guy entered 2 GTs and obviously could not embody his potential completely, but even that was more than enough to get 2nd, doesn't embarrass you?

 

[maxmartin]

Despite all these sarcastic comments about how good Froome will be in the Vuelta, the reality is that he will probably be tired from the Tour and will either do well in the first week, hold on near the end and get possible top 5, or fail completely.

Froom is definitely setting himself up, he did not intend to play down his chance at all. He even went as far as Tour and Olympics were more of a mental thing for him not really physical. I think he is extremely confident at this point about good results in Vuelta.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...race-alberto-contador-on-his-home-turf_234661

 

[rghysens]

Even if Froome was a talented rider it would be highly suspicious if he could keep the year long peak going.

What year long peak? I really can't remember any half-decent result from Froome before the dauphiné.

 

[Lanark]

Although I think Froome's results so far are almost completely due to doping, I don't expect much from him this Vuelta. He was great from the Dauphiné to the Olympics, I don't see how he could extend that to the Vuelta (even with doping).

Of course, the Sky-defenders will probably abuse this and shout 'see, he's clean after all, haha, if he was doping like you all say, why wouldn't he do better?'

 

[maxmartin]

Although I think Froome's results so far are almost completely due to doping, I don't expect much from him this Vuelta. He was great from the Dauphiné to the Olympics, I don't see how he could extend that to the Vuelta (even with doping).

Of course, the Sky-defenders will probably abuse this and shout 'see, he's clean after all, haha, if he was doping like you all say, why wouldn't he do better?'

that is the thing I am trying to figure out here? Will a fantastic performance in the vuelta(like podium) be a good evidence of doping, or is it the other way around that good result in the vuelta actually indicate he might be clean.