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[taiwan]

Your thoughts on forum users producing content for the main site, please.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Just to make one point clear:

There have been two news stories which quote forum users. Both are based on threads I established solely for that purpose, in both of which it was clearly stated that they would be used for news stories.

Susan

 

[The Hitch]

Is there a link to the second one (story I mean, not thread)? The one about 2012 best rider.

 

[RedheadDane]

Here ya go Hitchey!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/forum-hot-topic-predicted-rider-of-the-year-2012

Anyway. I quite like it.

 

[sublimit]

Your thoughts on forum users producing content for the main site, please.

Why is there a problem?
I think its a good idea myself not that I've contributed on them - Probably for the best because I talk too much crap at the best of times.

 

[hrotha]

Just to make one point clear:

There have been two news stories which quote forum users. Both are based on threads I established solely for that purpose, in both of which it was clearly stated that they would be used for news stories.

Susan

As long as it stays like this, there's nothing wrong with it. It's a good way to promote the forum.

 

[taiwan]

Why is there a problem?
I think its a good idea myself not that I've contributed on them - Probably for the best because I talk too much crap at the best of times.

I think the best of forum posts are of a higher quality than some main site content. CN doesn't seem to go for opinion stuff much, but I imagine it's hard to find well informed writers of that stuff. So here's a nice free source of cycling journalism. I would consider it equivalent to using unpaid interns.

I note that the stuff used was taken from threads which were flagged as 'for the main site.'.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

I have every intention of keeping it that way. It is an important point to me, as well.

Actually, of course, all postings here are public and accessible to all. Just out of curiosity, what would you think if some other website wrote a story based on something in the CN forum?

This has not happened and I don't mean that it will. And not meaning if some rider for example joined the forum and said something newsworthy (like Floyd Landis did several years ago with the Daily Peloton forum).

Susan

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

I think the best of forum posts are of a higher quality than some main site content. CN doesn't seem to go for opinion stuff much, but I imagine it's hard to find well informed writers of that stuff. So here's a nice free source of cycling journalism. I would consider it equivalent to using unpaid interns.

I note that the stuff used was taken from threads which were flagged as 'for the main site.'.

Certainly one of the reasons for flagging such threads is that anyone who does not want their name or comments to appear on the main site can thus avoid writing in the thread.

Susan

 

[RedheadDane]

Actually, of course, all postings here are public and accessible to all. Just out of curiosity, what would you think if some other website wrote a story based on something in the CN forum?

I think it would be a little weird if some other site suddenly wrote According to user 'RedheadDane' of the Cyclingnews.com forum bla bla bla I'd also find it weird if someone else was mentioned but mostly myself.

I don't think they'd mention names though. Here people (or at least those who contribute regularily and are known for their... knowledge... may have earned some kind of "authority" on the matter. On any other site most people would probably just look at the username and go "Who that?"








And just noticed a typo in the thread title. Furum. Sorry taiwan! Can't unsee!

 

[The Hitch]

Here ya go Hitchey!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/forum-hot-topic-predicted-rider-of-the-year-2012

Anyway. I quite like it.

Thanks

Just out of curiosity, what would you think if some other website wrote a story based on something in the CN forum?

When I wrote on twitter to ITV 4 and Eurosport, with corrections, the way they read my username out, it felt like they knew me

 

[Parrulo]

As long as it stays like this, there's nothing wrong with it. It's a good way to promote the forum.

ya i agree with this, its a very good way to promote the forum

 

[taiwan]

"furum", oops.

Well, seems to be a unique viewpoint of mine. Just feel that there's a potential to exploit peoples' excitement at being on the front page to get e.g. opinion, race favourites/previews, when a journalist should be getting paid to produce these. After all, it's a commercial site. If the forum's better informed than the main site, so be it. Let's not have the forum yoked up to improve the FP. I don't think CN should overrate it's contribution to the forum - a server and some off the shelf software (I assume almost all the mods are volunteers) - and it's entitlement to use what's posted.

Another site using the forum as a source? Well, say Vaughters makes a statement about someone/thing in The Clinic, and a sharp poster explained the implications of it. I'd expect what Vaughters said to be reported, but not the response of the ordinary poster. I think it would be out of order to use it without permission.

I suppose I'll have to be satisfied with reminding people that their expertise and contributions aren't all worthless. Although I'll admit that mine pretty much are. /rant

 

[boomcie]

Furum.

LOL

I don't need much.

 

[AussieGoddess]

Its a public forum.

Anything I say on it can be used by CN. That includes using either my opinion or a group consensus on which to write an opinion piece - though if they are attributing something to me, I would hope they get it right )

I like the articles, and I like the way they are made from specific threads so those users who do not want to be quoted can simply not post - but the rules are that you are offering a public opinion every time you post.

 

[taiwan]

... based on threads I established solely for that purpose, in both of which it was clearly stated that they would be used for news stories.

Just to flag up that this rule has been dispensed with. Not to pick on Susan.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

True. However, I did put a notice in the appropriate thread of what I planned to do, and it met with approval from the users.

Susan

 

[Anonymous]

ust out of curiosity, what would you think if some other website wrote a story based on something in the CN forum?

This has not happened and I don't mean that it will.

Yes it has, but ive seen several Articles written based on things said on the Forum, and a few articles based on discussion on the forum that have led onto other things. Certainly Anthony Tan has referred to things on the forum at least once.

 

[Anonymous]

Your thoughts on forum users producing content for the main site, please.

no issue at all. the threads were clearly flagged as being for an article on the main site.. dont want to be on there, dont post in the thread. simple.

 

[Ferminal]

Yes, who can forget Tan...

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=10951

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Interesting, I didn't know that.

But of course everything here is publicly available, and therefore open to use by others.

Susan

 

[blutto]

Thanks



When I wrote on twitter to ITV 4 and Eurosport, with corrections, the way they read my username out, it felt like they knew me

... such modest Modesty....oh, of course they would know you...you are, after-all, The Greatest of All time ....heck, you even clutter up my memory banks...

Cheers

blutto

 

[The Hitch]

... such modest Modesty....oh, of course they would know you...you are, after-all, The Greatest of All time ....heck, you even clutter up my memory banks...

Cheers

blutto

lol, if you bothered to check, you would realise that the "Greatest of all Time" bit is a link to a youtube video of someone else. The athlete I consider to be "The Greatest of all time".

So thats a bit of a fail.

The post meanwhile was a joke, hence the smiley. You might not get it but I wrote it in the hope that the more friendly posters on the forum would.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Your thoughts on forum users producing content for the main site, please.

Doesn't bother me.

It could be argued that a forum is a way of establishing the cycling public's opinion on issues.

As long as any article written would be subject to fairness, objectivity and accuracy, then it is fine.

Interesting, I didn't know that.

But of course everything here is publicly available, and therefore open to use by others.

Susan

I remembered that a Danish paper used comments from the forum during the Worlds.
http://spn.dk/cykling/article2558012.ece

Pretty innocent and amusing stuff.

 

[blutto]

lol, if you bothered to check, you would realise that the "Greatest of all Time" bit is a link to a youtube video of someone else. The athlete I consider to be "The Greatest of all time".

So thats a bit of a fail.

The post meanwhile was a joke, hence the smiley. You might not get it but I wrote it in the hope that the more friendly posters on the forum would.

...ooops...forgot to include a smiley face.......there..its all more better...

Cheers

blutto