Froome Awesomeness Poll

[Dr. Juice]

that's almost Verbier level tbh

Pretty high pace from Porte all the way up until 2 km to go. Rest was Alberto. Talansky/Froome also climbed 6.2 W/kg or something like that. Probably tailwind.

Verbier was 6.8 - 6.9 W for 20 minutes.

 

[Dr. Juice]

I hope that next year we'll get some nice data and climbs done full gas from Froome Contador Quintana and Nibali.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Pretty high pace from Porte all the way up until 2 km to go. Rest was Alberto. Talansky/Froome also climbed 6.2 W/kg or something like that. Probably tailwind.

Verbier was 6.8 - 6.9 W for 20 minutes.

Yeah the original calculation was 7 W/kg. Re-calculation showed it was more likely 6.2-6.3 W/kg because there was a massive tailwind & the road was less steep than originally thought

 

[Kwibus]

Age matters a lot. Especially in recovery. The average male will start declining around 31-32 years of age. Unless to use a lot of Clinic stuff!!

That's nature and there's nothing that you can do about it. At least for another 2,000,000 million years.

You are right, but not every human is the same. Some will decline before some later. Not always due to clinic reasons.

 

[Dr. Juice]

Yeah the original calculation was 7 W/kg. Re-calculation showed it was more likely 6.2-6.3 W/kg because there was a massive tailwind & the road was less steep than originally thought

http://www.netzathleten.de/Nachrich...dor-in-Verbier/Radsport/4456446246683367770/a

Other sources had 7.2 W/kg. It varies. There was a good tailwind that's true. Though I don't believe it makes the W value decrease by 0.5 - 0.7 W/kg. Not compared to neutral/ no wind. Compared to headwind sure.

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.netzathleten.de/Nachrich...dor-in-Verbier/Radsport/4456446246683367770/a

Other sources had 7.2 W/kg. It varies. There was a good tailwind that's true. Though I don't believe it makes the W value decrease by 0.5 - 0.7 W/kg. Not compared to neutral/ no wind. Compared to headwind sure.

Rel. Dauerleistung pro kg/Körpergewicht inkl. Velo: ca. 6,36 Watt/kg

you have to take into the bike weight I believe

Edit: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/2248/Contador-on-Verbier-recalculated.aspx

 

[Christian]

I think its pretty cowardly not to challenge Contador at the Giro and Tour. Sky has only reinforced the hyper-commercialized spectacle that the Tour has become, and to the detriment of racing.

What does he have to loose? The Tour? Well, now if he wins the Tour, people can say it was because he focused exlusively on the French race. But this was a position taken by Armstrong, so why not try to break that mold?

If all the favorites did both, it would be even better. It's sad fact that the commerical interests have taken over the real "heroicism."

The Giro-Tour thing is Tinkov's idea and why does he push this so far down our throats every time he does an interview? Of course it is only publicity and commercial interests. Tinkov is a clown and other teams and riders shouldn't stoop to his level. His whole million dollar offer is pathetic, it's like Donald Trump offering a million dollars for Obama's birth certificate.

I am not a Froomeboy or Skybot, I just think the fact that he (or any other team or rider) hasn't taken Tinkov up on this ridiculous bet is not a cowardly thing to do... Tinkov is entitled to do his clown show, other teams do things their way... it's all good

 

[Red Rick]

Didn't he do like 6.5 on the penultimate climb of the last stage? That performance was pretty crazy, even though he lost the DL there. He was really dropping everyone left and right

 

[LaFlorecita]

Didn't he do like 6.5 on the penultimate climb of the last stage? That performance was pretty crazy, even though he lost the DL there. He was really dropping everyone left and right

Yeah, that was him going all out in an attempt to save the overall victory I bet. Super impressive

 

[rhubroma]

The Giro-Tour thing is Tinkov's idea and why does he push this so far down our throats every time he does an interview? Of course it is only publicity and commercial interests. Tinkov is a clown and other teams and riders shouldn't stoop to his level. His whole million dollar offer is pathetic, it's like Donald Trump offering a million dollars for Obama's birth certificate.

I am not a Froomeboy or Skybot, I just think the fact that he (or any other team or rider) hasn't taken Tinkov up on this ridiculous bet is not a cowardly thing to do... Tinkov is entitled to do his clown show, other teams do things their way... it's all good

I was being a provocateur. While its true that from Tinkov's perspective it is all publicity, but it is riding the wave of a real personal challenge, which has nothing to do with publicity.

It is a shame, though was perhaps inevitable, that someone didn't take up the Spaniard in his courageous and invigorating challenge. I say with the sport in mind overall.

 

[Electress]

Highly competative?

I wouldn't be surprised if he wins the double, just without that PR crap, media attention seeking, and against very strong fields.

Of course more ITTs (why is there so few in GTs this year?) wont help but if he doesnt lose much on cobbles he is a favorite in TdF imho, same in Vuelta

Highly competitive. As in, competing to win. Just not an out and out shoe-in to do so.

And I hate to point out the blazingly obvious, but everyone in the peloton is ageing at the same rate - 365 days a year. And equally obvious is that no pro-rider could ever be described as average. Sure, AC is is the latter end of his career - it's why he's trying the double now. Froome, let's not forget, isn't that far off it either. Only Aru and Quintana are really a totally different generation.

As for PR crap, well, I think it's more than that. It might have PR mileage of Tinkoff, but I think Contador was honest about wanting to try something epic. That's an okay motivation for a sportsman in my book. Same reason Redgrave put himself through hell to get that last Olympic gold despite his body conking out on him left, right and centre. I think you do AC an injustice to suggest this is just media hype. He doesn't behave like some media *****. His was not the face I saw in the bookshops in 2014 after just one GT victory. Nor was the Tinkoff mental model endorsed by Contador, Kreuziger et al hitting the bestseller lists down in Waterstones.

Criticising any team for PR hype has a bit of the 'hello pot, here's kettle' about it. They sponsor the sport for a reason. And even if, I freely admit, I noted that Sky were quick to capitalise on their Tour wins and the Tour de Yorkshire stuff at the time, I remind myself (frequently through gritted teeth though it is) that it pays for our enjoyment.

 

[RiccoDinko]

Froomedawg, not yet awesome.

 

[Carols]

So on the Eurosport telecast today they said that Froome always looks down because when he looks ahead his neck hurts. What is wrong with his neck that it hurts when he lifts his head to look forward?

 

[theyoungest]

So on the Eurosport telecast today they said that Froome always looks down because when he looks ahead his neck hurts. What is wrong with his neck that it hurts when he lifts his head to look forward?

Depression?

 

[Jspear]

So on the Eurosport telecast today they said that Froome always looks down because when he looks ahead his neck hurts. What is wrong with his neck that it hurts when he lifts his head to look forward?

In the interview where Chris Froome was asked about his riding style. He didn't give a reason as to why his neck hurts. IIRC he just said it was more comfortable for him when he looks down.