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Porte on Froome from Velonews:

“We’re going up l’Alpe d’Huez twice, Mont Ventoux, it’s a much more mountainous Tour this year. I don’t see the time trials being anywhere as decisive as last year. Chris is one of the purest time trialists and best climbers in the mountains. Chris can win the Tour in any terrain.”

Purest time trialist and best climber. At the same time. Man, we really are back to 1999 in some ways, aren't we? If only I could suspend my disbelief.

I remember days when the lightweight great climbers were great climbers, but not the best TT'rs, and vice versa. Obviously we were wrong.
 
Ripper said:
Porte on Froome from Velonews:

“We’re going up l’Alpe d’Huez twice, Mont Ventoux, it’s a much more mountainous Tour this year. I don’t see the time trials being anywhere as decisive as last year. Chris is one of the purest time trialists and best climbers in the mountains. Chris can win the Tour in any terrain.”

Purest time trialist and best climber. At the same time. Man, we really are back to 1999 in some ways, aren't we? If only I could suspend my disbelief.

I remember days when the lightweight great climbers were great climbers, but not the best TT'rs, and vice versa. Obviously we were wrong.
lets not exaggerate. plenty have been great at both.
 
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The Hitch said:
lets not exaggerate. plenty have been great at both.
Pretty much all the dominant champions have been great at both. Anquetil, Indurain and Hinault maybe a little more to the ITT side, Merckx and Armstrong were at the top in both disciplines.
 
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Lanark said:
Pretty much all the dominant champions have been great at both. Anquetil, Indurain and Hinault maybe a little more to the ITT side, Merckx and Armstrong were at the top in both disciplines.
Monkeymouth needed the help of a truck load of PEDs, the best doping doc in the business exclusively and the UCI to bury positives to get to the top.
 
Wallace and Gromit said:
No and yes...

A kg of muscles weighs the same as a kg of fat.

However, muscle is 2 or 3 times denser than fat. Thus, for a given weight, a person with a higher proportion of muscle will occupy less volume and look thinner than the les muscular person.
Seriously? No.

Density of fat is around 0.7 g / cm^3, so fat tissue should be around 0,9 g / cm^3 (added water and other substances that raise average).

so you are saying muscle is around 1.8 - 2.7 g / cm^3. Do you realise that aluminium alloys are around 2.7 g / cm^3? I would venture to guess that muscle couldnt be much heavier than water, it's the main component of nearly all tissue in the human body.
 
gerundium said:
Seriously? No.

Density of fat is around 0.7 g / cm^3, so fat tissue should be around 0,9 g / cm^3 (added water and other substances that raise average).

so you are saying muscle is around 1.8 - 2.7 g / cm^3. Do you realise that aluminium alloys are around 2.7 g / cm^3? I would venture to guess that muscle couldnt be much heavier than water, it's the main component of nearly all tissue in the human body.
You are right, fat, 0,9 g / ml.

Muscle: 1,06 g / ml

;)
 
The Hitch said:
lets not exaggerate. plenty have been great at both.
I'm not the one making the exaggeration. Yes, you can be great at both, but the "purest time trialist" and "one of the best climbers" is not just being great at both, it is being one of the very best at both. E.g. capable of winning the TT a la Canc, and capable of winning the big/steep climbs, a la Pantani. Out of GC contenders, there are great riders who are very, very good at both, or the best at one and very good at the other. GC riders being the best at both, dumping or being close to dumping specialists, poses a bit more of a conundrum.

I would like to see Froome win the TTs and the MTFs, all of them. Just to make it over the top beyond compare.
 
Ripper said:
I'm not the one making the exaggeration. Yes, you can be great at both, but the "purest time trialist" and "one of the best climbers" is not just being great at both, it is being one of the very best at both. E.g. capable of winning the TT a la Canc, and capable of winning the big/steep climbs, a la Pantani. Out of GC contenders, there are great riders who are very, very good at both, or the best at one and very good at the other. GC riders being the best at both, dumping or being close to dumping specialists, poses a bit more of a conundrum.

I would like to see Froome win the TTs and the MTFs, all of them. Just to make it over the top beyond compare.
Unless Tony Martin crahes Froome want win the first timetrial, (I can't remember seconds profile but it may not suit Martin)
 
del1962 said:
Unless Tony Martin crahes Froome want win the first timetrial, (I can't remember seconds profile but it may not suit Martin)
Oops, you posted under your wrong user name.

Just ftr --- (QUOTE=del1962;1268905) Unless Tony Martin crahes Froome want win the first timetrial, (I can't remember seconds profile but it may not suit Martin)(/QUOTE)

;)
 
Fearless Greg Lemond said:
MAybe it is the camera, I dont know. It looks like he lost a 'lot' of weight. Not gained a kilo. To me that is. I could be wrong.Hi Del, how about placing some evidence of your claim everyone stopped fuelling above 50% excepts for Pantani?I wasnt interested in the placings Ferminal. I found the weight a bit strange.
Yup. Look at his face. Far more gaunt in the recent pic.
 
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jun/22/chris-froome-tour-de-france

This article sounds like it was written by the clinic skybots.

my favourite parts

His results on the South African circuit were mediocre. Edwards remembers flashes of brilliance when Froome would ride near the front before he got dropped
"Chris had a hell of talent – but it was absolutely untapped. It felt as if we were doing these amazing field experiments to make him a much better rider. His true ability started to emerge."
In the exact opposite of a drug like EPO, bilharzia destroys red blood cells and so Nilsen was stunned by Froome's ability to keep riding despite the debilitating disease. He told his friend that, restored to full health, he would win the Tour de France. "Chris just looked at me and said: 'Are you serious?'" Nilsen recalls. "I had no doubt."
"He told me it was his worst day on the bike," Blem says, "but when he saw Contador up the road there was no way he was letting him go. He went after him and won that stage. I said to him: 'You've just beaten Contador on your bad legs, when you felt like crap. Imagine what you could've done on a good day.'"
 
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the sceptic said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jun/22/chris-froome-tour-de-france

This article sounds like it was written by the clinic skybots.

my favourite parts
That's in The Observer tomorrow along with this one.

Froome also described as "really sad" a suggestion in the recent publication Not Normal? – by the French journalist and former Festina trainer Antoine Vayer – that there may be suspicions surrounding him.

Vayer analysed the watts generated by 21 riders on iconic mountain stages and concluded that climbs by Marco Pantani and Lance Armstrong had been "mutant", or highly suspicious, while Froome's effort was merely "miraculous", indicating possible suspicions.

Froome's response was measured, if exasperated. "It is hard not to get angry because it almost feels the better we do our job the more people think we're doping," he said. "There is still a lot of scepticism out there and a lot of fans have been let down. I sympathise with that. I am one of those fans. But the sport has changed. I know that my results aren't going to be stripped in five, six, seven years' time."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jun/22/chris-froome-cycling-code-omerta-broken
 
Ferminal said:
Well done for not flaming, Chris.

Oh HUNTER talking about Barloworld, lolz.
"I'm expecting to have to answer questions about doping," he admitted. "But personally I'm really confident the races I've done building up to the Tour, being able to get the results that I've got, show that cycling really has changed. If people are doping it's not working – they're not winning the races any more, that's for sure.
:eek:

The Dawg has gone mad.
 
Cyivel said:
How does rabies affect his passport values?
The Dawg anti-doping Tour de France drinking bingo:

"Cycling has changed"

"My results show that you can win clean"

"It's sad I have to anwser these questions"

"Doping was a long time ago"

"We work the hardest"

"We have a scientific approach. Everyone is aware of our zero tolorance policy"
 
He is so juiced up that he needs to go offensive not raising any alarms and doubts. Only problem is it works in the different direction. He looks even more shady with all this "i am winning because" and "no dopers is winning now".

If you gonna lie, lie big kind of.
 
thehog said:
The Dawg anti-doping Tour de France drinking bingo:

"Cycling has changed"

"My results show that you can win clean"

"It's sad I have to anwser these questions"

"Doping was a long time ago"

"We work the hardest"

"We have a scientific approach. Everyone is aware of our zero tolorance policy"
I understand why Froome saying those thing ****es you off, but... hypothetically imagine that there is a clean rider with a palmares like Froome's, wouldn't you expect that person to say or at least think exactly things like that?
 

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