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Cycling has coped relatively fine with bans since Festina. Cycling will survive another ban and be exciting again for some years until the next dominator appears.buckle said:Cycling can't cope with another ban. Froome is the new normal. His failure to win SPOTY in the UK and public sneering at cycling as a sport in general is about as successful as anti-doping gets.
Depressing I know but if you want morality, join the Benedictines.
I going to guess he'll blame Brailsford, & beg Chris to 'clarify'. i.e. continue to refuse to aknowledge the gigantic doper Pachyderm in the roomMartinGT said:Has Walsh said anything yet?
Ever seen those motorbikes struggling to keep up with the best descenders coming down off mountains. Exactly what assistance do you think he’s getting from a motor when he’s freewheeling at 80km/h?DanielSong39 said:You can gain any chunk of time anywhere with an e-bike. What narrative does that spoil?bigcog said:Anybody know a breakdown of the time he gained/lost on the climbs, false flats and descents ? I got the impression a fair chunk was gained on the descents, but obviously that would spoil the narrative somewhat if that is correct.
ahsoe said:Cycling has coped relatively fine with bans since Festina. Cycling will survive another ban and be exciting again for some years until the next dominator appears.buckle said:Cycling can't cope with another ban. Froome is the new normal. His failure to win SPOTY in the UK and public sneering at cycling as a sport in general is about as successful as anti-doping gets.
Depressing I know but if you want morality, join the Benedictines.
No morality. Cycling is an extreme sport. Some doping is to be expected to a certain extend, but please take a minimum of care and tone it down a bit, not making it too obvious. That also excludes motors![]()
As you rightly say, it's a question of surface plausibility. As entertainment however, WWE remains superior.ahsoe said:Cycling has coped relatively fine with bans since Festina. Cycling will survive another ban and be exciting again for some years until the next dominator appears.buckle said:Cycling can't cope with another ban. Froome is the new normal. His failure to win SPOTY in the UK and public sneering at cycling as a sport in general is about as successful as anti-doping gets.
Depressing I know but if you want morality, join the Benedictines.
No morality. Cycling is an extreme sport. Some doping is to be expected to a certain extend, but please take a minimum of care and tone it down a bit, not making it too obvious. That also excludes motors![]()
You realise that silvergrenade fully acknowledges that Froome is doping, right?rick james said:silvergrenade said:WHAT.A.RIDE by Christopher Froome!
Enjoyed that one. Beauty![]()
aren't they all?ColonelKidneyBeans said:You realise that silvergrenade fully acknowledge that Froome is doping, right?rick james said:silvergrenade said:WHAT.A.RIDE by Christopher Froome!
Enjoyed that one. Beauty![]()
Most probably almost all of them, yep, but you never made clear that you were thinking that about Froome, quite the opposite, actually. Also the "level playing field" excuse was already lame during Armstrong time.rick james said:aren't they all?ColonelKidneyBeans said:You realise that silvergrenade fully acknowledge that Froome is doping, right?rick james said:silvergrenade said:WHAT.A.RIDE by Christopher Froome!
Enjoyed that one. Beauty![]()
I don't have much of a problem with you, you are fan of a different doper than i, but at least you don't delude yourself thinking that he is beating other dopers while riding clean. Fine by me, really :razz:silvergrenade said:rick james said:aren't they all?ColonelKidneyBeans said:You realise that silvergrenade fully acknowledge that Froome is doping, right?rick james said:silvergrenade said:WHAT.A.RIDE by Christopher Froome!
Enjoyed that one. Beauty![]()
One would like to think so but after today I don't know what to think?Koronin said:ahsoe said:Cycling has coped relatively fine with bans since Festina. Cycling will survive another ban and be exciting again for some years until the next dominator appears.buckle said:Cycling can't cope with another ban. Froome is the new normal. His failure to win SPOTY in the UK and public sneering at cycling as a sport in general is about as successful as anti-doping gets.
Depressing I know but if you want morality, join the Benedictines.
No morality. Cycling is an extreme sport. Some doping is to be expected to a certain extend, but please take a minimum of care and tone it down a bit, not making it too obvious. That also excludes motors![]()
Oh they can survive another high profile ban. They'll have bigger problems if there isn't a ban. That would actually hurt worse.
The dope fest tomorrow night in Kiev will be just as bad.TubularBills said:#donewithprocycling
#donewithnfl
Another Landis.
I'll continue to watch the Spring Classics & Strade Bianchi.
The sport is dead.
I am mourning the death of the Grand Tours?
Yes. But part of the charm of cycling is the faint hope (previously assumption) that this is just highly trained and specialised athletes competing against each other - the best one winning at most on average.buckle said:As you rightly say, it's a question of surface plausibility. As entertainment however, WWE remains superior.ahsoe said:Cycling has coped relatively fine with bans since Festina. Cycling will survive another ban and be exciting again for some years until the next dominator appears.buckle said:Cycling can't cope with another ban. Froome is the new normal. His failure to win SPOTY in the UK and public sneering at cycling as a sport in general is about as successful as anti-doping gets.
Depressing I know but if you want morality, join the Benedictines.
No morality. Cycling is an extreme sport. Some doping is to be expected to a certain extend, but please take a minimum of care and tone it down a bit, not making it too obvious. That also excludes motors![]()
nah doping does not give the same advantage in footbball.buckle said:The dope fest tomorrow night in Kiev will be just as bad.TubularBills said:#donewithprocycling
#donewithnfl
Another Landis.
I'll continue to watch the Spring Classics & Strade Bianchi.
The sport is dead.
I am mourning the death of the Grand Tours?
Alexandre B. said:https://twitter.com/LottoJumbo_road/status/1000105610489286662
"He did a Landis!"
Real Madrid are doing fine though:-Frankschleck said:nah doping does not give the same advantage in footbball.buckle said:The dope fest tomorrow night in Kiev will be just as bad.TubularBills said:#donewithprocycling
#donewithnfl
Another Landis.
I'll continue to watch the Spring Classics & Strade Bianchi.
The sport is dead.
I am mourning the death of the Grand Tours?
The pros know Froome is cheating (obviously) and are reaching the point where they don't give enough of a *** to hide it from the general public.thehog said:The George Bennett tweet from the team is priceless...
“Bull5hit?!! He did a Landis?!”
https://twitter.com/lottojumbo_road/status/1000105610489286662?s=21
thehog said:The George Bennett tweet from the team is priceless...
“Bull5hit?!! He did a Landis?!”
https://twitter.com/lottojumbo_road/status/1000105610489286662?s=21