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Benotti69

Benotti69

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Did Froome winter in South Africa..............

This could be the reason. Foreign Athletes rarely get OOC tested in South Africa.

http://www.iol.co.za/blogs/kevin-mccallum-1.2505/too-many-doping-loopholes-1.1665441#.UzCmxSg9SS1

Jan Ullrich and Erik Zabel, both of whom doped, were regular visitors. It’s a potential promised land for Europeans to train in when the days are short and cold in their home countries. There is a worry, no matter how small, that some may be abusing the rule that allows those athletes to charge up in South Africa ahead of the European season.
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Alphabet

Alphabet

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He has a cast iron excuse though, South Africa is one of his 'homes'. He can easily pass it off as wanting to combine his training with being able to spend time with family and friends. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was spun as a marginal gain, spending time with people you like makes you more motivated to train harder! Never mind Wiggins training around Christmas time instead of being with his family.
 
BYOP88

BYOP88

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Alphabet said:
He has a cast iron excuse though, South Africa is one of his 'homes'. He can easily pass it off as wanting to combine his training with being able to spend time with family and friends. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was spun as a marginal gain, spending time with people you like makes you more motivated to train harder! Never mind Wiggins training around Christmas time instead of being with his family.
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Yeah, Lance was out on his bike 6 hours a day including Christmas.
 
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Mish_C

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Benotti69 said:
Did Froome winter in South Africa..............

This could be the reason. Foreign Athletes rarely get OOC tested in South Africa.

http://www.iol.co.za/blogs/kevin-mccallum-1.2505/too-many-doping-loopholes-1.1665441#.UzCmxSg9SS1
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SAIDS are authorised to test Chris out of competition, and they did so when we were in South Africa in January.

The reason he trains there is because of the weather, we own a house there, and our family is there. We tried to stay in Europe for as long as possible this winter but by the end of December Chris gave it up as a bad joke... he hates training in the cold. End of...
 
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deeno1975

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Mish_C said:
SAIDS are authorised to test Chris out of competition, and they did so when we were in South Africa in January.

The reason he trains there is because of the weather, we own a house there, and our family is there. We tried to stay in Europe for as long as possible this winter but by the end of December Chris gave it up as a bad joke... he hates training in the cold. End of...
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Proof or do "we" just take your word for it, whoever "we" are
 
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Mish_C

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All this V02 rubbish is such a joke...I can confirm that they haven't tested Chris (believe me or continue wasting your energy on your conspiracy theories, whatever floats your boat).

Keep in mind that they didn't even put Chris into a wind tunnel until last year. In all the time I've been with Chris the wind tunnel is the closest thing to a "lab" that they've had him in. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
The Hitch

The Hitch

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Mish_C said:
Keep in mind that they didn't even put Chris into a wind tunnel until last year. In all the time I've been with Chris the wind tunnel is the closest thing to a "lab" that they've had him in. Sorry to disappoint you.
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So you aknowledge marginal gains is bs? How does froome who has never even been in a windtunnel beat out all the tt specialists who had that massive advantage at the Olympics. Any potential "marginal gains" from washing hands are automatically cancelled out x10 by the fact that his opponents have been able to find more efficient positions.

And yet froome, down to mountain climber wait, and tired from having done the whole tour, and from pulling cav form250k still beats them out.
 
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deeno1975

Feb 24, 2014
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Mish_C said:
Keep in mind that they didn't even put Chris into a wind tunnel until last year. In all the time I've been with Chris the wind tunnel is the closest thing to a "lab" that they've had him in. Sorry to disappoint you.
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So much for the scientific approach and the marginal gains theorem... Back to basics I suppose, I just train on how I feel.
 
BYOP88

BYOP88

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A question for you if I'm allowed?

What your boyfriend said about his treatment:
"It’s a very strong pill. It basically kills everything in your system..."
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...bilharzia-parasite_295548#U5F22gykoP36gBOb.99

but on another forum you said this regarding the treatment:
"Re: Chris Froome
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 13:06 »
I don't know where you got that rubbish about bilharzia treatment being comparable to chemo?!?
I was with Chris when he took the 7-day (NOT 6 week) course of medication (immediately following Criterium International) & while there was some mild nausea & fatigue it certainly wasn't anything like a chemo treatment. He obviously wasn't able to ride while taking the medication.
And yes, he definitely has been struggling with bilharzia... he is due for another test to see if it's cleared his system.

Really... get your facts straight before making accusations like that... pathetic."

So who was right, you or Chris?
 
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Mish_C

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The Hitch said:
So you aknowledge marginal gains is bs? How does froome who has never even been in a windtunnel beat out all the tt specialists who had that massive advantage at the Olympics. Any potential "marginal gains" from washing hands are automatically cancelled out x10. And yet froome, down to mountain climber wait, and tired from having done the whole tour, and from pulling cav form200k still beats them out.
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I didn't say that marginal gains was BS. The team offer great race support and training. From what I have heard some of the larger teams don't even have structured training programs, riders are essentially left to do their own thing.

Out of interest, are you sure that all these TT specialists have spent time in a wind tunnel? It doesn't sound like it's done all that often anyway.

The Olympics result was a surprise for us. Remember that there were TT specialists there that should have performed far better e.g. Cancellara due to his crash in the road race.

Chris was coached by Bobby Julich, working specifically on Chris' time trialling for over a year before that. Chris has always loved time trialling. This is going to sound like a shameless punt, but I'd highly recommend giving Chris' autobiography a read when it comes out in June.

Oh, and Chris wasn't that tired after the 2012 Tour. He did have an awful day at the road race though. He spent far more energy that day, than any stage of the TDF (yes that is expected for a single day race) - but it came as a bit of a shock to his system.
 
the sceptic

the sceptic

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The Dawg all by himself tomorrow. Lets see what happens.

Could be anything from hanging on to motorbikes to 6.5w/kg.

Im not bold enough to make a prediction.
 
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Mish_C

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BYOP88 said:
A question for you if I'm allowed?

What your boyfriend said about his treatment:
"It’s a very strong pill. It basically kills everything in your system..."
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2013...bilharzia-parasite_295548#U5F22gykoP36gBOb.99

but on another forum you said this regarding the treatment:
"Re: Chris Froome
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 13:06 »
I don't know where you got that rubbish about bilharzia treatment being comparable to chemo?!?
I was with Chris when he took the 7-day (NOT 6 week) course of medication (immediately following Criterium International) & while there was some mild nausea & fatigue it certainly wasn't anything like a chemo treatment. He obviously wasn't able to ride while taking the medication.
And yes, he definitely has been struggling with bilharzia... he is due for another test to see if it's cleared his system.

Really... get your facts straight before making accusations like that... pathetic."

So who was right, you or Chris?
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Sounds like the same thing to me?!?!
Yes it's strong - he couldn't ride as I said, but it certainly isn't anything like chemo.
 
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deeno1975

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Mish_C said:
Sounds like the same thing to me?!?!
Yes it's strong - he couldn't ride as I said, but it certainly isn't anything like chemo.
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What do you believe that transformed Chris from a mid pack rider to a super GT contender, especially in a short period of time in 2011?? Thanks
 
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thrawn

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Mish_C said:
Oh, and Chris wasn't that tired after the 2012 Tour. He did have an awful day at the road race though. He spent far more energy that day, than any stage of the TDF (yes that is expected for a single day race) - but it came as a bit of a shock to his system.
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Is this because he didn't have to race very hard as he was way better than Wiggo on the climbs? Do you think he could have won vs Wiggo if allowed to race him in 2012?
 
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Mish_C

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deeno1975 said:
What do you believe that transformed Chris from a mid pack rider to a super GT contender, especially in a short period of time in 2011?? Thanks
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I don't believe he was ever a mid pack rider - possibly a super GT contender with bad bike handling skills and poor tactics. First stage race in Europe (Giro delle Regioni) with the UCI school he almost won the first mountain top finish (but followed the race motorbikes off the race route in the last kilometre :p), he did win the second mountain top finish though ;)

Again, I suggest you read the book...it's certainly been a long journey and he's anything but an overnight success.
 
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lllludo

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Sounds like the same thing to me?!?!
Yes it's strong - he couldn't ride as I said, but it certainly isn't anything like chemo.
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many versions about Froomey and bilharzia but I can't wait to read his autobiography.
It is not clear when he contracted the disease. At the beginning Chris said it was when he visited in Kenya in December 2010 but then other account mentioned 2009. He was diagnosed with bilharzia beginning of 2011 though.
Do you confirm ?
 
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