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doolols said:
Jeez. There's nothing you guys won't twist :rolleyes:

I'll bet if Froome released all his power data from when he was born, you'd all shout "THE FIGURES ARE DOCTORED! Obviously. Otherwise why would an obvious doper release the figures? Give us some different information, that the Clinic skeptics can twist and invert. Froome! Doper!"

Bringing a lack of testing into the (public) spotlight will only ... increase testing. Durr.
This post 10 years ago.


Jeez. There's nothing you guys won't twist :rolleyes:

Snip.

Donating half a million dollars to UCI anti doping will only ... improve anti doping. Durr.
 
The Hitch said:
Please post quotes so we don't have to click on the link and give them even more clicks
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Chris Froome says that cyclists are determined to put the dark days of doping in the sport behind them, but are frustrated by a lack of testing.

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"I'm trying to show people that the sport has turned around, that it's not the Lance Armstrong era anymore," Froome told BBC Radio 5 live.

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Froome had revealed on Twitter that he, Alberto Contador and Vincenzo Nibali had not been tested while training on Tenerife ahead of the the Criterium du Dauphine in June and the Tour de France, which starts in Yorkshire on 5 July.

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The Team Sky rider added, "Something that's been quite frustrating for us is that when we go up to Tenerife and do the really hard training rides to get ourselves ready for the Tour, we come down and journalists ask, 'We're you tested up there?'

"We can't lie and say, 'yes we were' when we weren't. We need to be tested to be able to say to people, 'Listen, we're being tested all the time, there's no way anything untoward is happening here.'"

If Froome wins this year's the Tour de France, he will be the first rider since Spaniard Miguel Indurain in 1995 to retain his title without being tarnished by a drugs association.

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"Every day we have to log onto an internet site and put our address of where we're sleeping 365 days a year so that we are open to being tested, so authorities know exactly where we are every day of the year, and authorities know we're open to those tests."
 
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Pretty interesting power data for the giro MTT.

It appears Chris Froome was about a million miles away from being an elite climber in 2010?!?

Monte Grappa
2014:19,3 km@8,0%---55:03---average speed 21.04 km/h(Nairo Quintana)
---55:04---average speed 21.03 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---56:45---average speed 20.41 km/h(Rigoberto Uran)
---56:47---average speed 20.39 km/h(Pierre Rolland)
---57:34---average speed 20.12 km/h(Domenico Pozzovivo)
2010:18,8 km@8,0%---56:43---average speed 19.89 km/h(Basso-Scarponi-Nibali)
---56:48---average speed 19.86 km/h(Cadel Evans)
---57:51---average speed 19.50 km/h(Vinokourov-Sastre)
---1:01:18---average speed 18.40 km/h(Froome-Porte group)


Quite a remarkable improvement! But he's always been a very promising time trialler in the flat, like SBW, is that right?
 
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LaFlorecita said:
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Holy crapola.

"Every day we have to log onto an internet site and put our address of where we're sleeping 365 days a year so that we are open to being tested, so authorities know exactly where we are every day of the year, and authorities know we're open to those tests."
That's almost a direct quote from the Lance Armstrong, "How do we stop doping" video I posted earlier. :eek::confused:
 
SeriousSam said:
Pretty interesting power data for the giro MTT.

It appears Chris Froome was about a million miles away from being an elite climber in 2010?!?

Monte Grappa
2014:19,3 km@8,0%---55:03---average speed 21.04 km/h(Nairo Quintana)
---55:04---average speed 21.03 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---56:45---average speed 20.41 km/h(Rigoberto Uran)
---56:47---average speed 20.39 km/h(Pierre Rolland)
---57:34---average speed 20.12 km/h(Domenico Pozzovivo)
2010:18,8 km@8,0%---56:43---average speed 19.89 km/h(Basso-Scarponi-Nibali)
---56:48---average speed 19.86 km/h(Cadel Evans)
---57:51---average speed 19.50 km/h(Vinokourov-Sastre)
---1:01:18---average speed 18.40 km/h(Froome-Porte group)


Quite a remarkable improvement! But he's always been a very promising time trialler in the flat, like SBW, is that right?
Froome was wearing sandshoes, had a headwind and Badzhilla. Not a bad effort.
 
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This test-us-please plea seems to be a big round of:

"Well, we know they can't test us positive with what we are using so let's really rub their faces in it." (as in saying we drive on espresso with honey, etc.). Who cares if everyone knows the sport is in the New Dirty Era.
 
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SeriousSam said:
Pretty interesting power data for the giro MTT.

It appears Chris Froome was about a million miles away from being an elite climber in 2010?!?

Monte Grappa
2014:19,3 km@8,0%---55:03---average speed 21.04 km/h(Nairo Quintana)
---55:04---average speed 21.03 km/h(Fabio Aru)
---56:45---average speed 20.41 km/h(Rigoberto Uran)
---56:47---average speed 20.39 km/h(Pierre Rolland)
---57:34---average speed 20.12 km/h(Domenico Pozzovivo)
2010:18,8 km@8,0%---56:43---average speed 19.89 km/h(Basso-Scarponi-Nibali)
---56:48---average speed 19.86 km/h(Cadel Evans)
---57:51---average speed 19.50 km/h(Vinokourov-Sastre)
---1:01:18---average speed 18.40 km/h(Froome-Porte group)


Quite a remarkable improvement! But he's always been a very promising time trialler in the flat, like SBW, is that right?
What's remarkable is you're comparing MTT times with times from a mountain stage.
 
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JimmyFingers said:
What's remarkable is you're comparing MTT times with times from a mountain stage.
what an uncharitable reading of my post. my astonishment at froome's transformation is based on how utterly awful he was compared to his peers back then compared to how utterly dominant he is now
 
Dear Wiggo said:
That's almost a direct quote from the Lance Armstrong, "How do we stop doping" video I posted earlier. :eek::confused:
Well he is explaining how something works. If it hasn't changed since Armstrong once explained how it works it will, erm, sound like Armstrong.

Does it mean he is like Armstrong?
 
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Avoriaz said:
Well he is explaining how something works. If it hasn't changed since Armstrong once explained how it works it will, erm, sound like Armstrong.

Does it mean he is like Armstrong?
I'm sorry did you miss the irony of Lance Armstrong explaining how "anti-doping works"?
 
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Avoriaz said:
I wasn't defending Armstrong. Are you saying Froome was also being ironic?
No. I am sure Froome is completely clean and riding on bread and water. Perhaps a squirt of pineapple juice and an espresso + honey finishing bottle.

Good.

Grief.

:rolleyes:
 
sniper said:
would be great to learn he had a tailwind that day.
Sky and Yates were well aware of Froome's obvious climbij talents. No mention of the knee injury that made him hang onto a motorbike :rolleyes:

It was halfway up that mammoth climb when Wiggins made his move and he and Cioni maintained the momentum to register their top-15 finishes.

Chris Froome was another to demonstrate his climbing talents as he showed he's right back to his best after his recent illness by taking 23rd place, 4:46 behind.

Wiggins underlined his fine form with an eye-catching attack midway up the 19-kilometre ascent of Monte Grappa deep into the 205km stage from Ferrara to Asolo.

That saw him put daylight between himself and the peloton as he went in pursuit of leader Alessandro Bisolti (Colnago) on the category-one rated climb which averaged 8% and had sections of up to 14%.

Wiggins was soon joined by teammate Steve Cummings, who was part of a six-man break which had gone clear after 35km and had stayed right in touch with Bisolti at the head of the race.

However with Wiggins in 10th on the GC at the start of the day the peloton had to respond; that happened, with Liquigas driving it, and Wiggins, Cummings and Bisolti were all reeled in before the 1,675-metres summit.

That set things up for a flying descent by Nibali and he was the clear-cut winner 40km later in Asolo. Teammate Ivan Basso was 23 seconds behind as he completed a one-two for Liquigas by making made his fresher legs count when edging out Michele Scarponi (Androni Giocattoli) and Cadel Evans (BMC Racing) in the sprint for second.

Wiggins stayed on superbly to finish in 11th, 2:25 behind Nibali, with Team Sky's Dario Cioni working well with him and registering another excellent result for himself as he came home just four places further back.

It all means that Wiggins is up to seventh in the overall standings, 6:32 behind new leader David Arroyo (Caisse d'Epargne) who crossed the line in the same group as the Briton.

Arroyo takes pink jersey

The maglia rosa had been on the shoulders of Saxo Bank's Richie Porte but he now trails Arroyo by 39 seconds. Stage winner Nibali is just a place behind Wiggins in eighth.

Not surprisingly the performance from his men left Team Sky's Sports Director Sean Yates delighted.

He told us: "The boys were really up for it and it was a great day all round. We had Steve in the break and Bradley did a great job, especially as the seriously steep climbs you get in the Giro aren't really his cup of tea.

"Dario went with him too and they formed a great group on the way down - they were with Arroyo who was riding for the jersey as well as several others - and it was the perfect situation.

"Everyone else made it home in one piece too so we couldn't be happier."
The stage had panned out well for Team Sky right from the outset, with Cummings getting himself in the day's big break which at one point held a lead of 8:05. He was second behind Filippo Pozzato (Katusha) on the intermediate sprint after 124.9km and then attacked as the riders started the ascent of Monte Grappa.

It was halfway up that mammoth climb when Wiggins made his move and he and Cioni maintained the momentum to register their top-15 finishes.

Chris Froome was another to demonstrate his climbing talents as he showed he's right back to his best after his recent illness by taking 23rd place, 4:46 behind.
http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,18697_6167499,00.html#z1OTQfEfxvLTXgkI.99
 
red_flanders said:
That's weird, it seems after reading that article that "Froome's best" was 23rd, 4:46 down. And that they were excited about it.

I guess they had a different idea of "Froome's best" back in the day.
It contradicts nicely with Brailsford's claim last year that he always knew Froome was the worlds greatest talent.
 
red_flanders said:
That's weird, it seems after reading that article that "Froome's best" was 23rd, 4:46 down. And that they were excited about it.

I guess they had a different idea of "Froome's best" back in the day.
Correct. Bear in mind the Sky website talks all of their riders up. Which is ok as it's just another paceline.com.

But, yes, 4:46 on a mountain stage which had a 40km decent and flat run-in was his "best". Which truth be told is about right for Froome when he's not taking drugs.

And he had no Badzhilla because he was "over" he's recent illness :rolleyes:

 

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