Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[jilbiker]

Contador motivates Froome

At 2013 TDF ITT, AC crossed line at 1st position with only Froome still to come. I remember the determination I saw in Froome's face, he was determined to not give AC one second, to stay in front of AC. He dug very deep. The challenge of beating AC drives Froome, he feels as long as he is ahead of AC, Bertie will crumble mentally.

Here is the deal. We all say AC is mentally tough especially after he fought and won with king of mind games Armstrong. But I don't know if it was the 6month break but he came back somewhat weaker mentally. Froome seized up on that and 2013 he made sure AC saw only the back of Froome. If AC was 10th, Froome wanted to be at least 9th, if the win comes great.

Today at the dauphine I saw that determination again on Froome after Bertie crossed the line. He wants to crack AC before TDF, make sure he is only seeing his back. It will take a huge effort from Bertie to beat Froome on tomorrow's MTF because Froome will come out all alien.

I am not sure what Bertie can do. This Froome fella has appeared from average rider to world beater overnight much like the transformation of Armstrong. And he has no finesse or charisma or strong points, he just clobbers you on the road with sheer brute force.

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

There was a lot less. And before EPO Riis was already a GT stage winner. Froome's pre-Leinders results can't hold a candle to Riis pre-EPO

Ignorance....

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

So Riis was clean from '93-'96?

Is there any evidence that he was doping during that time?

 

[Fagniniwins]

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[Fagniniwins]

Dauphine Stage 1 ITT

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Is there any evidence that he was doping during that time?

http://archives.lesoir.be/les-curieuses-statistiques-de-gewiss_t-19990313-Z0GH9P.html

What is up with this forum? Three quarters of my post just dissapeared?

 

[Fagniniwins]

Froome Dauphine ITT

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[peloton]

Is there any evidence that he was doping during that time?

Seriously?

 

[Fagniniwins]

[Posting the images inline is cutting off most of the text of my post. Sorry]

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Seriously?

Edit. I see how this can be misread. I meant did any evidence occur at the time during that time period.

 

[Fagniniwins]

[Posting the images inline is cutting off most of the text of my post. Sorry]

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

http://archives.lesoir.be/les-curieuses-statistiques-de-gewiss_t-19990313-Z0GH9P.html

And this all goes back to

skyfan logic goes: If there is no evidence someone is doping, they are clean.

Which I said sounds reasonable.

Netserk replied to me with

So Riis was clean from '93-'96?

Hence me asking if there was evidence. I think if you crunch some of the numbers regarding climbing and look at the figured bandied about for his HCT I think the answer is.. yes.

In which case there is an argument to say he was not clean. Which turned out to be true.

I really don't get want the confusion is here.

 

[Fagniniwins]

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[Fagniniwins]

Froome Dauphine ITT

I always wonder where the favorites make up time on one another in ITTs, but it's annoying when the time splits are 15km far apart and based on Tony Martin taking 2 minutes out of everyone (well, almost everyone ).

Eurosport's coverage of the Dauphine Stage 1 ITT allowed me to hand-time splits for Nibali, Contador, and Froome towards the end using landmarks from the camera bike behind the riders. I got splits for Nibali and Froome from a 90

 

[Hawkwood]

From The Climb, Froome's wonderous TT position. This is apparently the look of one of the best TT riders in the world, what a joke!

Looks hammed up for the photo. In the few pictures I've seen him in the Dauphine prologue his position looks okay, but need an expert to critique it.

 

[SeriousSam]

I really don't get want the confusion is here.

equivocation on the word 'evidence'. the skyfan understanding of evidence is a positive and/or a ferrari/fuentes association. contrary to what some sky fans claim, the absence of such evidence doesn't mean the rider is clean.

if 'evidence' is understood as every fact more likely if the rider dopes than if he doesn't, as it should, then you are correct. that is reasonable.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Get your stop watches ready. I would love a show of force on the Col du Beal

 

[deeno1975]

Multiple sprints from Froome with Contador sitting on and obviously not helping... Well worth a watch. Contador must have read the book and gave up the coffee stops but Froome went FULL ***!!

 

[SecomBe]

Didn't Dave Brailsford say two tears ago that the lack of multiple attacks (no to mention the length of attack) showed us that cycling was cleaner.

 

[meat puppet]

Didn't Dave Brailsford say two tears ago that the lack of multiple attacks (no to mention the length of attack) showed us that cycling was cleaner.

yeah, but paraphrasing lenin that was then, now is now

 

[BYOP88]

Didn't Dave Brailsford say two tears ago that the lack of multiple attacks (no to mention the length of attack) showed us that cycling was cleaner.

Brailsford speaks out of his a$$. I wish a journalist would ask him that question whilst showing footage of today.

 

[Saint Unix]

Froome vs. everyone. Still toys with them in the most alien of ways. They were ganged up on him today, with Kelderman, Talansky and van den Broeck co-operating in trying to break him. Still won the stage easy as you like.

Rotten to the core.

Thought Contador was finally about to out-dope him when he stayed glued to Froome's wheel for that ridiculously long attack, but alas. Only an accident will tip the Tour any other way than Froome's.

 

[Nathan12]

He's doing an awful lot of coughing.

 

[Saint Unix]

The Team Sky way

Team Sky has been criticised for the often clinical, finely calculated way it rides and win many of the sport's biggest stage races. The dominant way they controlled the Tour de France and set up Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome quickly lead somewhat malicious comparisons to Lance Armstrong's powerful US Postal Service team.

Again Brailsford throws back any criticism and insinuation.

"If people want the entertainment value of riders attacking each other, stopping, attacking each other again and again, then go back to 'old cycling', which will give you the capability to do that," he said.

"If you want clean sport and clean cycling, then it's going to be different. You can't have it both ways. There's an element of reality about what were doing."

"People accuse us of being robotic and being like a machine but hold on a second; that's unfair on Richie Porte. He actually rode a brilliant race to win Paris-Nice. He was the best guy in the race thanks to the work he put in during training and the way he rode. That’s fantastic, that's what cycling is about."

"There's a difference between attacking for attack's sake and making meaningful attacks. What we saw in Paris-Nice were lots of attacks but only one meaningful, thought-out attack, which was Richie's attack."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-hits-back-at-accusations-and-criticism-of-team-sky

Yep.

 

[SeriousSam]

why doesn't any journalist call brailsfraud out on his bull****?