Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Benotti69]

So Froome has childhood asthma that would need medication over time and Leinder's apparently told the teamSky Doctor not to give any TUEs and Froome wouldn't have mentioned to Leinders about his asthma and Leinders would not have told Froome, "well Chris you know you wont be racing on medication should you need it for your asthma".....as we have been led to believe Leinders instructed the other team docs!!!

It just stinks about Froome and Sky.

 

[SeriousSam]

The way that article read to me was more or less "Froome is a doper, wake up people!!"

Just sayin'

To the daily mail readers it reads more or less "British Hero overcoming lazy cheaters and illnesses in the era of clean cycling!"

 

[Rollthedice]

A very sick man:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...ggle-Great-Britains-Tour-France-champion.html

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

the sickest man winning tours with alien attacks

 

[Carstenbf]

To the daily mail readers it reads more or less "British Hero overcoming lazy cheaters and illnesses in the era of clean cycling!"

Really? I thought they did everything but call him out. It's beautiful really. Just state the "facts" of the case and it quickly becomes glaringly obvious, that something is amiss.

Then again, I'm probably mistaken.

 

[Fzotrlool]

To the daily mail readers it reads more or less "British Hero overcoming lazy cheaters and illnesses in the era of clean cycling!"

Yes, he is almost presented as a mythological demigod. It is gooey. Didn't know he had so many diseases.

 

[the sceptic]

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport...future-star-Chris-Froome-three-years-ago.html

RadioShack were interested in Sky’s Steve Cummings but Brailsford said he was already planning to go elsewhere.

‘Dave then suggested that RadioShack might be interested in Froome,’ said a source with knowledge of the meeting.

‘He made it clear things weren’t working out as envisaged and that Froome might be able to do a job elsewhere.’

RadioShack did not see Froome as the kind of rider they needed.

Funny.. Brailsford trying to get rid of Froome but there arent any takers. Then he turns into the best gt rider in the world weeks later.

 

[hmpower]

Abit like with Sky they will sell you for anything, **** he next so called thing keep him.Then he the new team made wonder boy wonder who's next?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Froome is a bigger slap in the face of professional cycling than any other drugged donkey turned racehorse ever was, including Nozal, Leipheimer, Rumsas, or Armstrong.

 

[SeriousSam]

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport...future-star-Chris-Froome-three-years-ago.html



Funny.. Brailsford trying to get rid of Froome but there arent any takers. Then he turns into the best gt rider in the world weeks later.

Braislford probably wasn't aware of Froome's crazy adaptive physiology. Or maybe Froome turned off the power meter and produced his alien numbers only when no one was looking.

 

[Benotti69]

Brailsford trying to flog Froome, it really does make me laugh out loud when they talk about leaving no stone unturned and pushing the details.....

 

[the sceptic]

Brailsford trying to flog Froome, it really does make me laugh out loud when they talk about leaving no stone unturned and pushing the details.....

I do wonder, will anyone ask Brailsford the obvious question as to how he had no idea Froome would turn into the best rider in the world in 3 weeks?

Not holding my breath.

 

[DucSti]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...personal-struggle-Great-Britains-Tour-France-

His Bio Passport must be all over the place with a sickness record like this..
Jesus this is just ridiculous to say the least...for everything else that needs explaining one can always apply for a TUE..

One thing : I am quite convinced that Froome has previously stated the absolute cure of hid Badz was just prior to The Vuelta 11 - and not December 11 as per these new details..maybe I've got the dates wrong ?

If the cure were NOT until December 11, how do one then explain his sudden arise to World Class Climber of that Vuelta..

On the eve before the Vuelta 11, he was almost ditched by SKY...what a remarkable coincidence...I might be naive but I am not that stupid to be believe THIS....

 

[Benotti69]

PK: Did you see the piece David wrote last week (in The Sunday Times)?

CF: I didn't see it but I spoke to him, so I got a general idea of what he would have written.

- See more at: http://www.independent.ie/sport/oth...-the-storm-30391816.html#sthash.dcocSvsT.dpuf

I dont believe Froome or Mrs Froome doesn't read an important article like Walsh's last sunday!!! That was a big article to do with the TUE and he doesn't read it considering his MRs is reading everything else she can!!!!

 

[jens_attacks]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...personal-struggle-Great-Britains-Tour-France-

His Bio Passport must be all over the place with a sickness record like this..
Jesus this is just ridiculous to say the least...for everything else that needs explaining one can always apply for a TUE..

he didn't even count cholera,breast cancer and ebola!

 

[Merckx index]

Froome learns why you can’t get better by training longer than the other guys:

CF: I was basically challenging the conventional system of, 'Why do we train once a day and then have dinner and go to bed and have breakfast the next day?' Surely, as an athlete, it would be best if you trained, ate something healthy, slept and went training again when you wake up. So I was basically ignoring night and day; if I woke up at two in the morning, I'd go training, get back at seven, have a meal, go to bed and go out again in the afternoon.

PK: When was this?

CF: When I was in Italy during my first year at Sky (2010). I had little torches on my bike and it was actually really peaceful training in the moonlight, and I enjoyed it, but I got about four days into it and was just empty. I had nothing left and my clock was all messed up and I quickly abandoned that idea.

Oh, please:

PK: When was the last time you cried?

MC: I know.

CF: What was it about?

MC: I don't know if you want me to say . . .

(He laughs.)

MC: The other day, he got very upset about the TUE thing and he just said, 'What have I done wrong?'

(She starts crying. He reaches across and touches her shoulder).

MC: We have had zero communication from the UCI or Wada or anything on this. I sent an email to Brian Cookson (the president of the UCI) - because he went and tweeted a whole load of fluff again yesterday - and I said to him: 'Don't you think you owe Chris an apology here?' Because Chris' reputation has been ruined here.

 

[Granville57]

CF: I was basically challenging the conventional system of, 'Why do we train once a day and then have dinner and go to bed and have breakfast the next day?' Surely, as an athlete, it would be best if you trained, ate something healthy, slept and went training again when you wake up. So I was basically ignoring night and day; if I woke up at two in the morning, I'd go training, get back at seven, have a meal, go to bed and go out again in the afternoon.

PK: When was this?

CF: When I was in Italy during my first year at Sky (2010). I had little torches on my bike and it was actually really peaceful training in the moonlight, and I enjoyed it, but I got about four days into it and was just empty. I had nothing left and my clock was all messed up and I quickly abandoned that idea.

It reminded me of Landis' tales of sneaking out at night to train as a kid, so his parents wouldn't know, and with his shoes wrapped in plastic bags to keep warm.

And that's where I thought this story of Froome's was headed—an anecdote from childhood. But 2010, when he was already a member of Team Sky?!

So as recently as four years ago, Chris Froome was unaware of the importance of sleep and recovery for an endurance athlete? Like everything else, it seems, Chris felt that the "rules" of even Night and Day didn't, or somehow wouldn't, apply to him.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

It reminded me of Landis' tales of sneaking out at night to train as a kid, so his parents wouldn't know, and with his shoes wrapped in plastic bags to keep warm.

And that's where I thought this story of Froome's was headed—an anecdote from childhood. But 2010, when he was already a member of Team Sky?!

So as recently as four years ago, Chris Froome was unaware of the importance of sleep and recovery for an endurance athlete? Like everything else, it seems, Chris felt that the "rules" of even Night and Day didn't, or somehow wouldn't, apply to him.

If true, how is he doing this without ANYONE else on the team knowing?

If someone else on the team knew, how is it they accepted this training regime?

 

[thehog]

If true, how is he doing this without ANYONE else on the team knowing?

If someone else on the team knew, how is it they accepted this training regime?

If I followed Sky's training program I'd be riding between the hours of 2am & 9am, without breakfast, with the powermeter turned off, performing seated accelerations all whist everyone else is either sleeping or drinking coffee.

Can these guys sound anymore ludicrous?

 

[Granville57]

If someone else on the team knew, how is it they accepted this training regime?

Which prompts another question:
How is it that Froome could've gotten to the level of a pro contract without knowing how to train properly in the first place?

Did he honestly think, "Well, if my eyes are open, I should be out on the bike. 2:00 am? Whatever!"

That's the imaginings of a 10-year-old. Maybe.

But a pro, riding for one of the wealthiest teams in the sport?

 

[Granville57]

Can these guys sound anymore ludicrous?

Paul Kimmage's full three-hour 
interview with Chris Froome will be available on independent.ie from lunchtime tomorrow.

I suspect the answer will be, "Yes."

 

[The Hitch]

Froome learns why you can’t get better by training longer than the other guys:




Oh, please:

It reminded me of Landis' tales of sneaking out at night to train as a kid, so his parents wouldn't know, and with his shoes wrapped in plastic bags to keep warm.

And that's where I thought this story of Froome's was headed—an anecdote from childhood. But 2010, when he was already a member of Team Sky?!

So as recently as four years ago, Chris Froome was unaware of the importance of sleep and recovery for an endurance athlete? Like everything else, it seems, Chris felt that the "rules" of even Night and Day didn't, or somehow wouldn't, apply to him.

But in one of the books, ITS or TC, I think TC, Froome says he would go do extra training beyond all the training Sky do. I think he said 4 hours more and that he would switch off his cycling computer so that his trainer would never find out about it.

Now bare in mind David Millar (and others? Walsh I think too) have said Sky train harder than anyone else anyway.

And Chris, on top of having a harder training regime than any none sky rider in the peloton is also training an extra 4 hours (25% of your none sleep day) in secret.

So did he learn his lesson? He seems to be training totally ridiculous ammounts as is. And I remember Merckx Index did a criticism of Walsh about half a year ago saying he doesn't understand that training isn't linear because Walsh was talking about how Sky tain so much harder than everyone else as an explanation for their superiority.

 

[Beech Mtn]

It reminded me of Landis' tales of sneaking out at night to train as a kid, so his parents wouldn't know, and with his shoes wrapped in plastic bags to keep warm.

And that's where I thought this story of Froome's was headed—an anecdote from childhood. But 2010, when he was already a member of Team Sky?!

So as recently as four years ago, Chris Froome was unaware of the importance of sleep and recovery for an endurance athlete? Like everything else, it seems, Chris felt that the "rules" of even Night and Day didn't, or somehow wouldn't, apply to him.

I can believe Froome did the night training. He was trying out weird stuff even back on Barloworld. And Sky seems not to have invested much time or attention in him back then (not valuing him all that much as a future star), so I can totally see him deciding to try some half-baked idea in the absence of proper direction from his team.

If he was left to his own devices so much, it could also explain why he loved Julich so much, for taking an interest in him, and Bobby's particular psych-based positive thinking coaching style.

 

[the sceptic]

If I followed Sky's training program I'd be riding between the hours of 2am & 9am, without breakfast, with the powermeter turned off, performing seated accelerations all whist everyone else is either sleeping or drinking coffee.

Can these guys sound anymore ludicrous?

Good question. I do wonder what Froome has in store for the tour. Im sure it will be hillarious and cause the forum to melt down. Cant wait!

 

[ferryman]

If I followed Sky's training program I'd be riding between the hours of 2am & 9am, without breakfast, with the powermeter turned off, performing seated accelerations all whist everyone else is either sleeping or drinking coffee.

Can these guys sound anymore ludicrous?

Don't twist Hog, not Sky's training programme, a failed solo experiment by Froome.