Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Benotti69]

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So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

Ullrich quote "if you cannot add one and one together than i can not help you"......

 

[Rollthedice]

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Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage 45m45 minutes ago
In 2012, @chrisfroome finished 11th in the Tour prologue at Liege. A year later he blitzed the favourites by +2 minutes in TT. Today? 39th.

Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome 28m28 minutes ago
@PaulKimmage In 2012 major focus on TT with long TDF TT’s & Olympic TT. Haven’t spent half as much time on my TT bike this year, no point.

Froome says no point to TT train this year..........

The secret for going faster than Lance is training. Anybody can do it, just focus on it and use the latest technology.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

That's NOT 5-6-7%... Nibali and Contador are at 5%. For example Michael Valgren is 8% and people call him chubby. Froome is lower than 5%, Ferrari estimated him at 2-3% last year IIRC

 

[Lyon]

The secret for going faster than Lance is training. Anybody can do it, just focus on it and use the latest technology.

That and being part of the 'natural progression of sport'.

 

[Rollthedice]

Re: Re:

So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

That's NOT 5-6-7%... Nibali and Contador are at 5%. For example Michael Valgren is 8% and people call him chubby. Froome is lower than 5%, Ferrari estimated him at 2-3% last year IIRC

Last year Nibali had 7% in Dauphine, 6.1 during the Tour and was expected to reach 5.5 at the end. I suspect this year he is under 6% at the start. But Froome already looks anorexic, wonder what will happen to him in the last week.

 

[Benotti69]

I reckon Geraint Thomas is the Sky man that will do well this year, top 5 finish. I reckon Froome wont make it past 2nd week.

 

[No_Balls]

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check out how skinny Froome is

https://twitter.com/arnoldvweiler/status/617248213599453184

holy ****, guy should be in a hospital??????????

Makes you wonder what kind of sport this is were one of the key figures looks like this. I feel ashamed for the cycling community to be honest. How could you encourage your kids to a sport were the posterboy looks like he'd been released from Auschwitz? This is so wrong on so many levels.

 

[SeriousSam]

lol @ 2-3%. Only the most extreme of competition bodybuilders ever go that low, and they use heavy PEDS, the sort that would never get past any doping control, and starve prior to competition. Elites having to perform cannot reach such a level. The eye test is no caliper.

 

[mrhender]

According to Froome there was "no point" in training much for the ITT...

If we take that on face value and combine it with the picture already posted here,
it seems he has gone all-in on the mountain approach...

One could argue that training for the TT today would have been a marginal gain.

Also one has to remember that Froome at his best, was superior in both mountains, and TT's at the same time...

Something seems to have changed, (aside from the wind today) because Froome did not use that as explanation...

But how is it that you can be superior in both one year, and have to focus your training in others?
What became of his multi-skill?

Strange?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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I reckon Geraint Thomas is the Sky man that will do well this year, top 5 finish. I reckon Froome wont make it past 2nd week.

Now that's what I call a Plan G.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Froome is like a bike frame.
You build him for the parcours
Different parcours different Froome.
NOT

 

[Walkman]

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Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage 45m45 minutes ago
In 2012, @chrisfroome finished 11th in the Tour prologue at Liege. A year later he blitzed the favourites by +2 minutes in TT. Today? 39th.

Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome 28m28 minutes ago
@PaulKimmage In 2012 major focus on TT with long TDF TT’s & Olympic TT. Haven’t spent half as much time on my TT bike this year, no point.

Froome says no point to TT train this year..........

I am not saying Froome is clean, really not. But isn't it a good sign that his TT-abilities has weakened as he has focused more on climbing?

Just look at a guy like Löfkvist. He was top 10 in a TT in the 2008 Tour but didn't really climb well. Then his climbing improved and, as would be expected, his TT ability seemed to decline a bit.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

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Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage 45m45 minutes ago
In 2012, @chrisfroome finished 11th in the Tour prologue at Liege. A year later he blitzed the favourites by +2 minutes in TT. Today? 39th.

Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome 28m28 minutes ago
@PaulKimmage In 2012 major focus on TT with long TDF TT’s & Olympic TT. Haven’t spent half as much time on my TT bike this year, no point.

Froome says no point to TT train this year..........

I am not saying Froome is clean, really not. But isn't it a good sign that his TT-abilities has weakened as he has focused more on climbing?

Just look at a guy like Löfkvist. He was top 10 in a TT in the 2008 Tour but didn't really climb well. Then his climbing improved and, as would be expected, his TT ability seemed to decline a bit.

It'd be flippin' awesome if we didn't then have to remember watching 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 where the opposite was true: Froome improved out of sight in both climbing and TTing.

Way too early to tell if his current change in ability is believable, but his physical transformation is not.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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lol @ 2-3%. Only the most extreme of competition bodybuilders ever go that low, and they use heavy PEDS, the sort that would never get past any doping control, and starve prior to competition. Elites having to perform cannot reach such a level. The eye test is no caliper.

Michael Valgren is at 8%. Nibali and Contador are at 5-6%. The difference between Valgren and these two is very obvious. Froome is obviously much skinnier than Nibali and Contador. Make of that what you want.

 

[Kokoso]

Re: Re:

So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

Ullrich quote "if you cannot add one and one together than i can not help you"......

Well - that proves a lot, everybody knows Ullrich never, ever lied.

 

[Benotti69]

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Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage 45m45 minutes ago
In 2012, @chrisfroome finished 11th in the Tour prologue at Liege. A year later he blitzed the favourites by +2 minutes in TT. Today? 39th.

Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome 28m28 minutes ago
@PaulKimmage In 2012 major focus on TT with long TDF TT’s & Olympic TT. Haven’t spent half as much time on my TT bike this year, no point.

Froome says no point to TT train this year..........

I am not saying Froome is clean, really not. But isn't it a good sign that his TT-abilities has weakened as he has focused more on climbing?

Just look at a guy like Löfkvist. He was top 10 in a TT in the 2008 Tour but didn't really climb well. Then his climbing improved and, as would be expected, his TT ability seemed to decline a bit.

Froome aint clean. No matter the signs. Once a rider crosses the line to dope it doesn't matter whether it is one vial or hundreds.

Froome TT and climbed extremely well in Vuelta '11, TdF '12&'13 so that he didn't yesterday has no bearing on Froome's doping history. It just, to me, points to how well they can manipulate their doping. Has Froome gone for a lighter body due to 7 Mtfs and no TT so sacrificed some power to increase climbing. That at this level is not training, but doping.

 

[Kokoso]

Re: Re:

So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

That's NOT 5-6-7%... Nibali and Contador are at 5%. For example Michael Valgren is 8% and people call him chubby. Froome is lower than 5%, Ferrari estimated him at 2-3% last year IIRC

I know gyus with poping veins who are around 15-20%. And I know guys around 10% whose veins are never so defined, even when working hard on upper body. I can't see much difference between Nibali and Froome. Don't know about Contador. I'd like to know who calls Valgren chubby, lol.

 

[The Hitch]

That's a silly tweet from Kimmage. Of all froomes tt performances he chooses liege- a year froome finished 2 nd overall? And the suggestion that he is done because of one average tt yesterday?

 

[Benotti69]

Re: Re:

So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

Ullrich quote "if you cannot add one and one together than i can not help you"......

Well - that proves a lot, everybody knows Ullrich never, ever lied.

That picture of Froome with a Biafran arm is not lying............

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Anyone sayin better equipment is the explanation for climbin like the good old EPO days should be banned from the sport immediately. Only the gullible with half a brain will believe anything he says or does in the future.

Good thing David Walsh is right on the story, he will set Froomey straight!

 

[veganrob]

If Frooome hits the tarmac he is done. Break like a china doll.

 

[Kokoso]

Re: Re:

So what's special about that picture? Lol

When you lower your body fat to 5/6/7% that happens...veins pop out..its normal..lower amount of tissue around your body...you cant keep that for lon but its still possible for few weeks under totally controlled diet..

Doesnt mean he isnt doping or anything, but really there's nothing special about that picture whatsoever..

Ullrich quote "if you cannot add one and one together than i can not help you"......

Well - that proves a lot, everybody knows Ullrich never, ever lied.

That picture of Froome with a Biafran arm is not lying............

So what's the point quoting Ullrich? To prove that you are fighter against doping on one side and on the other borrowing quotes from known doper to make your point clear? Confusing. Anyway, such low body fat, has more cyclists, look at Nibali, Peraud, Bardet, Pinot... Froome's bad luck is that he has longer arms so he tends to look skinnier than others, it makes kind of optical illusion.

 

[The_Cheech]

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I know gyus with poping veins who are around 15-20%. And I know guys around 10% whose veins are never so defined, even when working hard on upper body. I can't see much difference between Nibali and Froome. Don't know about Contador. I'd like to know who calls Valgren chubby, lol.

That level of vascularity requires low a very low body fat percentage as well as low subcutaneous water levels (SBLs). Some people are genetically predisposed for low levels of SBLs and some aren't (it's lewdly called "**** skin").

In the world of bodybuilding folks take in diuretics to get rid of the SBLs when preparing for a show.

In the case of Froome, I suspect his vasculatity is due to low bodyfat alone. What is really weird is how his triceps seems to be flexed out even though he is curling his arm. I think he is actually flexing for the camera. Not impressed.

 

[zalacain]

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If Frooome hits the tarmac he is done. Break like a china doll.

They will give him a Mae West for the canal and if it's tarmac he'll bounce

 

[djpbaltimore]

I have the same type of veins popping on my arms, and hands. Temperature makes a huge difference in their appearance. The hotter the temps, the more pronounced they are. When I was running seriously, I was about 6 ft, 130lbs (59 kilos). I am not in shape right now, and weigh about 150lbs (68 kg), but with the same vein appearance. So, IMHO, vein-ology is not very accurate way to measure body fat.