Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Stingray34]

Before his official victory speech in Victoria, I overheard The Dawg dedicate his win to Vivax and his family back in Zeta Reticuli.

True story.

 

[Lyon]

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The Guardian the day after the Ventoux stage:

But the Australian physiologist Tim Kerrison, who has revolutionised the way his charges at Team Sky build up to races such as the Tour, explained that such intense efforts when the body is already close to its limit are a key part of his proteges' training.

Ah yes, the infamous "I was at the brink of death but suddenly had another burst of power" that EPO gives you. Sometimes it is not about being on the latest stuff but about being able to still use the older (often more powerful) stuff. A little bit like how certain WR's in Athletics is still standing because being on good old steroids is better than being forced into using designer drugs.

Is being protected more important than having access to the latest drugs? I think yes, most of the time. Of course, doing both is the dream of two-thirds of the peloton.

 

[Stingray34]

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The Guardian the day after the Ventoux stage:

But the Australian physiologist Tim Kerrison, who has revolutionised the way his charges at Team Sky build up to races such as the Tour, explained that such intense efforts when the body is already close to its limit are a key part of his proteges' training.

Ah yes, the infamous "I was at the brink of death but suddenly had another burst of power" that EPO gives you. Sometimes it is not about being on the latest stuff but about being able to still use the older (often more powerful) stuff. A little bit like how certain WR's in Athletics is still standing because being on good old steroids is better than being forced into using designer drugs.

Is being protected more important than having access to the latest drugs? I think yes, most of the time. Of course, doing both is the dream of two-thirds of the peloton.

The intense bursts at exhaustion come courtesy of Vivax...pushing a lil button is all they can do.

 

[thehog]

Never go full Dawg...

 

[Stingray34]

Never go full Dawg...

Nice find, thanks Hoggy....long time no talkie!

 

[thehog]

Never go full Dawg...

Nice find, thanks Hoggy....long time no talkie!

Hello!! How's things? Did you get to see the Dawg in the flesh at the Sun-Tour?

 

[sniper]

anybody who said Ryder's and Izaguirre's spinning rear wheels were normal should look at this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DCe4QVO0PE
no spinning wheels after similar crashes.

 

[hrotha]

And what is that huge sample of 3 supposed to prove?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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anybody who said Ryder's and Izaguirre's spinning rear wheels were normal should look at this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DCe4QVO0PE
no spinning wheels after similar crashes.

Good try but I am not sure we can get too much information out of these clips.
Video 1: Froome's wheels touch the ground multiple times which could bring them to a stop
Video 2: in the first clip Riis is already braking and he goes down at a very slow speed. In the 2nd clip he stops and tosses his bike and ironically you can see his rear wheel spin while the bike is in the grass.
Video 3: First clip: Chicken is clearly braking and his wheels also touch the ground when he goes down. You can see his front wheel spin very slightly but it stops quite quickly. 2nd clip: we simply cannot see the wheels.

 

[sniper]

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anybody who said Ryder's and Izaguirre's spinning rear wheels were normal should look at this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DCe4QVO0PE
no spinning wheels after similar crashes.

Good try but I am not sure we can get too much information out of these clips.
Video 1: Froome's wheels touch the ground multiple times which could bring them to a stop
Video 2: in the first clip Riis is already braking and he goes down at a very slow speed. In the 2nd clip he stops and tosses his bike and ironically you can see his rear wheel spin while the bike is in the grass.
Video 3: First clip: Chicken is clearly braking and his wheels also touch the ground when he goes down. You can see his front wheel spin very slightly but it stops quite quickly. 2nd clip: we simply cannot see the wheels.

fair enough.
but Riis wheel defintiely isnt 'spinning' in the grass. It turns very slowly and stops.
Nothing like Izaguirre and Hesjedal, though I acknowledge that for the both of them there are also other possible explanations than a motor.

 

[Metabolol]

Vivax - breakfast of champions.

 

[wansteadimp]

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another triumph of british doping - froome and kennaugh winning the stage at the herald sun race in australia.

You're not the only one shocked by goings on Down Under. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that Froome and Kennaugh had managed to drop Dion Smith, Robbie Hucker and Joseph Cooper. Absolutely staggering. Looks like another year of Sky winning every race on the calendar again.

I think the Herald Sun Tour race owners are more than happy to have Froome there. Orica, the main home team, will go for Ewan´s stage wins. they haven´t got a man for GC

dont know if Rupert had his people arrange it, as he is the owner of the Herald Sun.

saying this, and i did write it, he has about 5 levels above and removed from day to day shenanigans on cycling and Sky.

and News only own about 38% of Sky the satellite tv company, they dont own 100%. I do wonder what Rupert was playing at with this gambit? Freddythefrog care to weigh/wade in?

the muscularchristianity chariots of fire thing, the Tour de France winning for the nation, just like the power politics and sport propaganda on show at Olympics? Just another leaf from this book, and even if it is budgeted out at 20mill GBP, it is still a cheap show of national pride and national glory.

I always thought the cycling team was a toy for his idiot son.

 

[blackcat]

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I always thought the cycling team was a toy for his idiot son.

for James?

dont think so.

as a toy for his SkyTV CEOmanship/Chairmanship?

doubt it.

His toy was Mushroom Records he bought off Michael Gudinski and signed bands like Gerling which were pretty cr@p

 

[Stingray34]

Never go full Dawg...

Nice find, thanks Hoggy....long time no talkie!

Hello!! How's things? Did you get to see the Dawg in the flesh at the Sun-Tour?

Hey! I'm OK, just waiting around for this sport to go Supernova. I didn't go down to Victoria for the Sun Tour as it's 2500km away! Anyway, it's really hard to see the Dawg because, as an alien, he's actually a fourth-dimensional creature, so he fades in and out of our third-dimension, appearing only at the end of races.

 

[blackcat]

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Ah yes, the infamous "I was at the brink of death but suddenly had another burst of power" that EPO gives you. Sometimes it is not about being on the latest stuff but about being able to still use the older (often more powerful) stuff. A little bit like how certain WR's in Athletics is still standing because being on good old steroids is better than being forced into using designer drugs.

only in wmns tho. Usain Bolt set the mens WR on SARMs and other peptides, you dont get out of the blocks as a 6'4"sprinter. Never been done, the applied physics for work done, the watts he required to get out of the blocks close enough to the small guys with smaller levers... the equilibrium for long lever stride length versus short level explosion out of blocks to terminal velocity, has always been some way between 100 and 200 metres where they get the balance... but Bolt achieved both, not cos of Soviet era roids

 

[wansteadimp]

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I always thought the cycling team was a toy for his idiot son.

for James?

dont think so.

as a toy for his SkyTV CEOmanship/Chairmanship?

doubt it.

His toy was Mushroom Records he bought off Michael Gudinski and signed bands like Gerling which were pretty cr@p

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jul/23/james-murdoch-sky-tour-de-france

Robert Tansey, who chairs Team Sky, says: "If the question is whether we did this because James is a cycling fan, then the answer is no."

We all know that we can trust what Team Sky says implicitly!

 

[blackcat]

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jul/23/james-murdoch-sky-tour-de-france

Robert Tansey, who chairs Team Sky, says: "If the question is whether we did this because James is a cycling fan, then the answer is no."

We all know that we can trust what Team Sky says implicitly!

good catch. I will have to re-assess this now I know James was a cycling fan. Sir Brailsford did well to hit him up at the Olympics or whereever he corralled him

 

[gillan1969]

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jul/23/james-murdoch-sky-tour-de-france

Robert Tansey, who chairs Team Sky, says: "If the question is whether we did this because James is a cycling fan, then the answer is no."

We all know that we can trust what Team Sky says implicitly!

good catch. I will have to re-assess this now I know James was a cycling fan. Sir Brailsford did well to hit him up at the Olympics or whereever he corralled him

think he did some gran fondos etc and got into it...always had more of a soft spot for him after that

still a fascist...but hey....

 

[bobbins]

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jul/23/james-murdoch-sky-tour-de-france

Robert Tansey, who chairs Team Sky, says: "If the question is whether we did this because James is a cycling fan, then the answer is no."

We all know that we can trust what Team Sky says implicitly!

good catch. I will have to re-assess this now I know James was a cycling fan. Sir Brailsford did well to hit him up at the Olympics or whereever he corralled him

Sky were looking for a sport to sponsor, the shortlist was tennis, swimming and cycling. they went with cycling as they figured there was more scope for mass participation, especially if they could piggy back on the success of the track team. The pro team came as a result of that. James being a leisure cyclist isn't particularly relevant as it was a Sky UK thing initially. They didn't put enough money into it for it to be a big enough spend to need James or Roberts approval.

 

[blackcat]

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http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/jul/23/james-murdoch-sky-tour-de-france

Robert Tansey, who chairs Team Sky, says: "If the question is whether we did this because James is a cycling fan, then the answer is no."

We all know that we can trust what Team Sky says implicitly!

good catch. I will have to re-assess this now I know James was a cycling fan. Sir Brailsford did well to hit him up at the Olympics or whereever he corralled him

Sky were looking for a sport to sponsor, the shortlist was tennis, swimming and cycling. they went with cycling as they figured there was more scope for mass participation, especially if they could piggy back on the success of the track team. The pro team came as a result of that. James being a leisure cyclist isn't particularly relevant as it was a Sky UK thing initially. They didn't put enough money into it for it to be a big enough spend to need James or Roberts approval.

thnx, still, you gotta luv me some murdoch level nepotism, and rebekkah brooks as an honoury member

 

[pastronef]

having a laugh about the cotton-nose-TT incident

https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/702137108446760960

 

[bobbins]

having a laugh about the cotton-nose-TT incident

https://twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/702137108446760960

I think he's involved with the turbine company hence the plugs. He's also involved with those oval rings he uses. Which is part of the reason Brad no longer uses them.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

What's Dawg disappearing from the spotlight for?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-opts-for-south-african-training-camp-over-european-racing/
Doesn't seem a particularly Sky Team Spirit thing

 

[thehog]

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What's Dawg disappearing from the spotlight for?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/froome-opts-for-south-african-training-camp-over-european-racing/
Doesn't seem a particularly Sky Team Spirit thing

Good article, Dawg couldn't find anyone to go with him! LOL!

Ullirch used to train in SA. Good spot, warm weather etc. I'm sure master trainer Tim Kerrison is there working on the number with him

 

[pastronef]

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Good article, Dawg couldn't find anyone to go with him! LOL!

Boswell and Froome were scheduled to go there

Konig was supposed to join them, but he crashed in Valencia
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBxaFFpraAd/
so he didnt go
I think maybe Roche too (who´s part of the Monaco crew with Boswell Konig Froome) but he was called last minute to Andalucia after Intxausti and Landa pulled out.