Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[thehog]

Then do not reply. If you replay, thats on you.

I have offered this deal before - you stop lying, making stuff up, and I won't have to correct you and will not respond.

No deal. Because you're the vortex. And you can't be trusted on this forum.

I think you should be banned because you attempt to use the vortex on everyone.

Leave Walsh alone.

Vortex agghhhhh!

 

[thehog]

I would agree.

Walsh even said - maybe I'm biased?

He even admits that he is.

But I don't blame Walsh.

It’s a good gig. I wouldn’t give it up or expose Sky doping if I had questions. I wouldn’t say a word.

If my employer was paying for an all expenses paid trip to the Giro. I’m not saying anything which might elude to doping.

I would add if Walsh did find some untoward activity he'd have to run it by his editorial team first.

Not likely they'd allow it to be printed.

I am looking forward to the Froome article though.

Be interesting to see how he approaches it.

I'm hopeful. Let’s wait and see what we get next Sunday.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Or you means that to be in Kenya for 14 years means to take bilharzia? you could live there all your life and never take and to live there one day and take

I have just demostrate in the article that they dont know exactly when he take the disease, and it could be in southafrica as well, not just in Kenya,

But this discussion have no sense, he had (or he has still) the disease, if you need the name of the doctor in Kenia who checked him, I could found for you and you ask him, but when I go to the doctor, there is a report about that.. the same for Froome. Ask for it.

Yeah, life is full coincidences, aient it?

I'll give the doc a ring, or was it a blood control by the uci?
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cnt/DMF20121102_00356011
"I was late 2010 at the wedding of my brother in Kenya, when the International Cycling Union (UCI) checked me for the blood passport. I immediately asked to examine all parameters. When she discovered that I suffer from the disease.''

Care to react to that non - intelligent question?

"I don't mind criticism, never have, but those who express it uncouthly will be blocked. In fact, blocking them will help make my day!"

Well, that is multi - interpretable, isnt it? End of vortex.

 

[Benotti69]

Have you tried asking Walsh any questions, politely?

Yes. I asked him why he was embedding and not repeating the same scenario with Sky that he did with Armstrong and talking to people who were on the inside but are no longer. He disagreed with me saying it would be better to see what Sky are upto! I told him they are not going to show him the doping. He said he didn't believe they are doping. I said that he should remember what sport we were talking about and what team hired Leinders.

Walsh is not adopting the same attitude to this as he did with Armstrong. Might have something to do with his paymasters.

 

[JRTinMA]

I would add if Walsh did find some untoward activity he'd have to run it by his editorial team first.

Not likely they'd allow it to be printed.

I am looking forward to the Froome article though.

Be interesting to see how he approaches it.

I'm hopeful. Let’s wait and see what we get next Sunday.

I wonder if Walsh will get to lunch with Froome. That's a good interview format, open and forthcoming comments at lunch can be excellent indicators of a clean cyclist.

 

[Dirty Dennis]

I wouldn’t give it up or expose Sky doping if I had questions. I wouldn’t say a word.

If my employer was paying for an all expenses paid trip to the Giro. I’m not saying anything which might elude to doping.

Wouldn't you?

I guess we all have our own level of personal integrity. You seem to be under attack for yours

I wonder where Walsh's level is? He certainly put himself in the financial firing line when he took on Armstrong.

Here's a thought though..... let's say he did discover doping at Sky and he did expose it....

It would be an amazing scoop. The sort of thing most journalists would kill for. The sort of scoop that would have every other door opening, even if the Sunday Times one closed.

Just a thought...

 

[Dr. Maserati]

No deal. Because you're the vortex. And you can't be trusted on this forum.

I think you should be banned because you attempt to use the vortex on everyone.

Leave Walsh alone.

Vortex agghhhhh!

You don't need to trust me, you need to trust you - the deal stands, you don't lie, i wont correct you.

 

[Dirty Dennis]

Yes. I asked him why he was embedding and not repeating the same scenario with Sky that he did with Armstrong and talking to people who were on the inside but are no longer. He disagreed with me saying it would be better to see what Sky are upto! I told him they are not going to show him the doping. He said he didn't believe they are doping. I said that he should remember what sport we were talking about and what team hired Leinders.

Walsh is not adopting the same attitude to this as he did with Armstrong. Might have something to do with his paymasters.

You may well be right, and I can see why you think that. Time will tell...

 

[Benotti69]

Wouldn't you?

I guess we all have our own level of personal integrity. You seem to be under attack for yours

I wonder where Walsh's level is? He certainly put himself in the financial firing line when he took on Armstrong.

Here's a thought though..... let's say he did discover doping at Sky and he did expose it....

It would be an amazing scoop. The sort of thing most journalists would kill for. The sort of scoop that would have every other door opening, even if the Sunday Times one closed.

Just a thought...

Newspapers are dying. All the doors are shut. Walsh will never find another permanent staff job in a paper again if he gets shunted by Sunday Times.

Look at Kimmage. multiple award winning journalist and no paper can afford to give him a job as they are all losing money.

Walsh's hands are tied.

 

[Dirty Dennis]

Newspapers are dying. All the doors are shut. Walsh will never find another permanent staff job in a paper again if he gets shunted by Sunday Times.

Look at Kimmage. multiple award winning journalist and no paper can afford to give him a job as they are all losing money.

Walsh's hands are tied.

That's a fair point.

I still hold a sliver of hope for Walsh. A book deal on exposing Sky doping would give him enough to retire on, no?

 

[thehog]

I wonder if Walsh will get to lunch with Froome. That's a good interview format, open and forthcoming comments at lunch can be excellent indicators of a clean cyclist.

I agree.

It's my understanding the UCI will stop blood testing and just take riders to lunch to establish if they're doping or not.

I wonder who pays the bill? Dutch?

 

[JimmyFingers]

Newspapers are dying. All the doors are shut. Walsh will never find another permanent staff job in a paper again if he gets shunted by Sunday Times.

Look at Kimmage. multiple award winning journalist and no paper can afford to give him a job as they are all losing money.

Walsh's hands are tied.

or maybe he's just better informed.

Think Walsh needs defending, considering how quickly he gets thrown on the fire. IT shouldn't be 'you don't agree with us, we will tear you down'.

It's good he has an open mind

 

[pmcg76]

Caught lying....again....

In fairness lying and distortion is a pre-requisite for entry into the infamous clinic 12. They are all at it, always have been and nothing will change because there is no way you could ever make the clinic 12 without lying or distortion and those who say otherwise are just naive or stupid, the evidence is right there but they don't want to see it. They are just fanboys who want to bask in the reflected perceived importance of the clinic 12.

Hog, FGL, Benotti, Blackcat etc, etc all liars and they go around telling people they are honest, how can anybody expect to believe they are doing it right now when they have lied so often in the past. Nothing has changed I tell you, nothing, it's the exact same posters here telling the exact same lies, even after they serve suspensions, they come back all angelic but they are just peddling the same stuff.

What have any of them ever done to prove they are not liars, nothing, that's what. Liar's I tell you, liar's the lot of them

 

[thehog]

That's a fair point.

I still hold a sliver of hope for Walsh. A book deal on exposing Sky doping would give him enough to retire on, no?

Yes once he clears down the NDA agreements with Sky

Not happening.

Besides Walsh is semi-retired now.

He doesn't need 100,000 screaming Dr. M's screaming blasphemy in the UK.

At least the Armstrong fans were mostly in America.

This won't be PRISM 2.

 

[the sceptic]

I agree.

It's my understanding the UCI will stop blood testing and just take riders to lunch to establish if they're doping or not.

I wonder who pays the bill? Dutch?

Sounds good, but i think they also need Race Radio there to look Froome in the eyes and ask him if he is clean.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

That's a fair point.

I still hold a sliver of hope for Walsh. A book deal on exposing Sky doping would give him enough to retire on, no?

And take down the entire British Cycling media, getting people out of a job?

No way.

I think Walsh really thinks they are clean, tunnelvisioned, just like us in a way. In his own words: 'a fan with a typewriter'.

 

[JimmyFingers]

In fairness lying and distortion is a pre-requisite for entry into the infamous clinic 12. They are all at it, always have been and nothing will change because there is no way you could ever make the clinic 12 without lying or distortion and those who say otherwise are just naive or stupid, the evidence is right there but they don't want to see it. They are just fanboys who want to bask in the reflected perceived importance of the clinic 12.

Hog, FGL, Benotti, Blackcat etc, etc all liars and they go around telling people they are honest, how can anybody expect to believe they are doing it right now when they have lied so often in the past. Nothing has changed I tell you, nothing, it's the exact same posters here telling the exact same lies, even after they serve suspensions, they come back all angelic but they are just peddling the same stuff.

What have any of them ever done to prove they are not liars, nothing, that's what. Liar's I tell you, liar's the lot of them

AT least they look good doing it. I don't mind them lying as long as they do it with style. I hate the boring liars

 

[Dirty Dennis]

Yes once he clears down the NDA agreements with Sky

Not happening.
.

An NDA that precludes him from revealing doping?

That would take at least two lawyers to write up.

More chance of a leak.

Not happening.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Sounds good, but i think they also need Race Radio there to look Froome in the eyes and ask him if he is clean.

Didn't he already do that with Porte? And believed him?

 

[JRTinMA]

In fairness lying and distortion is a pre-requisite for entry into the infamous clinic 12. They are all at it, always have been and nothing will change because there is no way you could ever make the clinic 12 without lying or distortion and those who say otherwise are just naive or stupid, the evidence is right there but they don't want to see it. They are just fanboys who want to bask in the reflected perceived importance of the clinic 12.

Hog, FGL, Benotti, Blackcat etc, etc all liars and they go around telling people they are honest, how can anybody expect to believe they are doing it right now when they have lied so often in the past. Nothing has changed I tell you, nothing, it's the exact same posters here telling the exact same lies, even after they serve suspensions, they come back all angelic but they are just peddling the same stuff.

What have any of them ever done to prove they are not liars, nothing, that's what. Liar's I tell you, liar's the lot of them

You understand blackcat?

 

[martinvickers]

Newspapers are dying. All the doors are shut. Walsh will never find another permanent staff job in a paper again if he gets shunted by Sunday Times.

Look at Kimmage. multiple award winning journalist and no paper can afford to give him a job as they are all losing money.

Walsh's hands are tied.

If you think Kimmage's difficulties in getting a gig are mainly economic, you're more naive than I take you for.

And the David Walsh book that announces Wiggins doped would sell enough, and make enough in serialisation rights, that He'd probably never need to work again.

 

[pmcg76]

You understand blackcat?

Yep and I have caught him lying and distorting things on a regular basis, he keeps it suttle so not to go above the level to arrouse suspicion but unless you look deeper into what he is lying about, it's difficult to trigger the alarm for many people.

 

[thehog]

If you think Kimmage's difficulties in getting a gig are mainly economic, you're more naive than I take you for.

And the David Walsh book that announces Wiggins doped would sell enough, and make enough in serialisation rights, that He'd probably never need to work again.

Isn't it funny?

I never saw Walsh motivated by money. Ever.

What an odd assessment to make.

You guys are very strange at times.

The Armstrong books Walsh wrote never made a cent, penny or Euro.

Think you guys are making up stories again.

 

[thehog]

Isn't it funny?

I never saw Walsh motivated by money. Ever.

What an odd assessment to make.

You guys are very strange at times.

The Armstrong books Walsh wrote never made a cent, penny or Euro.

Think you guys are making up stories again.

The only thing releasing tell all books did to Walsh was cause him pain, legal complications and debt.

He won't be doing that again.

 

[Benotti69]

If you think Kimmage's difficulties in getting a gig are mainly economic, you're more naive than I take you for.

You know nothing of Kimmage, unless you have been opening his mail.

And the David Walsh book that announces Wiggins doped would sell enough, and make enough in serialisation rights, that He'd probably never need to work again.

Wiggins is small fry compared to Monkeymouth Armstrong and Walsh didn't retire on the sales or serialisation rights to those 3 books.

So back to drawing board on that one.