LaFlorecita said:
The Hitch said:
gillan1969 said:
Ruby United said:
I direct those who are asking questions about Froome's Bilharzia to this biased, yet informative article:
http://froome19.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/chris-froome-bilharzia.html
because its biased its not that informative
it's as though those WMDs could be fired in 45 mins...
Ah i remember this
It was written by a froome fanboy who used to post here under the name "Froome19" (pure coincidence no doubt). Froome 19 is supposedly the brother of Ruby united.
The kid was about 15 years old at the time and not the brightest 15 either. He wanted to become a cycling journalist. He even demanded that cycling news publish his "articles" on their own website to give you an idea of the kind of mind that wrote this.
He posted a lot here for a short period of time but then run away to TeamSkyforums (or velorooms as it was known at the time) just as they were implementing their new ban any poster who doesn't say wiggins is clean policy (ok its an exageration, it wasn't that black and white though they did certainly send pms to non sky fans warning them not to take part in sky discussions)
The kid did have the right balance of stupidity, self delusion and nationalistic bias to become a very succesful cycling journalist so who knows, maybe he has acheived his dream. Personally I hope he matured a bit and can pursue a more honorable profession.
As for the page itself (i'm done attacking the man, lets focus briefly on the ball), it's even more full of holes than Froome's own Bilharzia story, which says something.
Still, the kid was young at the time and god knows I was stupid and impressionable at that age as well so lets not be too hard on him. If you are reading this, you were all right froome19, but for the love of god take down that nonesence. Its embarrasing and hopefully not representative of the man you are now.
Meh, I think there's maybe 1 Sky fan among the forum regulars so not really fair to refer to it as TeamSkyFans forum. There are a few more that post on BikeRadar as well but most of them are alright and not delusional. Tell you what, I think this forum has developed into a way more hostile environment for Sky sceptics than Velorooms. Well, not so much the Clinic but PRR subforum is a mess.
Haven't seen froom19 in ages on VR either.
Havent been there in years so am speaking about how it was back in the day.
There were some truly great posters there that are amongst my favourites and several who were friends to the extent that any anonymous forum name can be a friend. And if I was still following cycling like I used to i would definately check in there. (search is definately one that comes to mind)
But its definately no small exageration to call it Team Sky forums, at least at the time. Many of the biggest hypocrites who would liberally accuse anyone of doping, then suddenly found their faith in the cycling justice system in July 2012, ran there with their tails between their legs.
Im thinking of Jamsque for example (used to have a old video game pic as his profile here).
Boy I would love to find out what he thinks of Michal Kwiatkowski these days. He accused Kwiatkowski openly of doping in 2011 when Kwaitkowski came 3rd in the 3 days of depanne time trial. But then he got really upset that anyone would dare ask the same questions of a guy (bradley wiggins) who didnt just come 3rd in time trials but won every one he rode in 2012.
He ran away from the clinic when he found out a hypocrite assylum existed at velorooms. I tried to ask him on velorooms why it was ok to attack kwiatkowski but not wiggins. crickets
Then we have melow velo who was a cool guy but lets be honest, he obfuscates any question on Sky, whereas pre 2011 he was the one preaching about how doped cycling is and how bad the tests are. daveinzambia is another one.
And of course the founder of the forum and its cultish leader "dimspace" who's screen name here was "Team Sky Fans" (hence my play on the name), and who matched these guys for hypocrisy so well he even makes David Millar look like a half honest bloke. Its hillarious that after starting his website to "boycott" cn forums he came back here as a sockpuppet.
But like any extremist nut job movement, its not so much the hardcore nutters that facilitate it, its the weak ordinary men in the middle. As there was no real reason to leave the clinic at the height of the Lance and Contador wars, (the premise for the move was a protest against cn forum adds) the other type of person who left completely for velorrooms were internet pacifists who's opinion of the clinic was- "its not nice, its mean that everyone fights here" and in return for a peaceful friendly loving forum where everyone gets on well, offered to accept dimspace as cycling's King Solomon, and of course gravitated naturally to the sunny flowerly portrayal of cycling as a sport that is beating doping, and inherently distrusted the idea that these heroic men would ever do anything bad.
Since dimspace said sky were clean the other regulars said the same, and all these people wanted was a "friendly forum" focused on racing not discussing not nice things like doping, it became unfriendly to argue against the status quo. They would post in the sky threads "maybe sky are doping but they probably aren't", and that it was negative to believe cycling wouldnt become clean.
These are the ones who would become mods and then carryout the immediate banning of Bro Deal from the forum after 1 harmless post (because he was an enemy of dimspaces from here), or who would send pm warnings about staying out of the sky threads because, and i **** you not- it was upsetting for several of their memebers to read.
Meanwhile old trolls from here were welcomed with open arms (joachim) but ironically got frustrated because the mod sponsored support for Sky left no one left to troll.
What happened after that, you can tell me better.