Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[BYOP88]

Just give 'us the people' the powerfile on San Luca. While you are at it, throw in the Mortirolo motor pace file.

Good job on the NOS piece BYOPP, must have been a bad translation.

Thanks, but I can't take credit for that. I think it was Granville57 who posted it recently, that's why it's fresh in my mind again.

 

[sniper]

Thanks, but I can't take credit for that. I think it was Granville57 who posted it recently, that's why it's fresh in my mind again.

The bit you highlighted really is quite interesting/revealing.
First, the way froome hesitates there suggests he's uncomfortable talking about it, he seems to be hiding some parts of the story, while instantly fabricating other parts. In any case he needs waaay too much time to think.
And what ffs was the role of the UCI there?
The whole story rambles like a broken record.
Sounds like UCI spotted heavy disruptions in his bloodprofile, and in consultance with team Sky decided to give the guy a break + fabricate an excuse to circumvent any future anomalys in his passportprofile.
And of course, Pat/UCI was already in bed with Sky prior to 2010.

 

[Digger]

The bit you highlighted really is quite interesting/revealing.
First, the way froome hesitates there suggests he's uncomfortable talking about it, he seems to be hiding some parts of the story, while instantly fabricating other parts. In any case he needs waaay too much time to think.
And what ffs was the role of the UCI there?
The whole story rambles like a broken record.
Sounds like UCI spotted heavy disruptions in his bloodprofile, and in consultance with team Sky decided to give the guy a break + fabricate an excuse to circumvent any future anomalys in his passportprofile.
And of course, Pat/UCI was already in bed with Sky prior to 2010.

And even that doesn't match up - as the Sky doctor told Walsh that there was no real difference in his blood from before that Vuelta to after....but Chris in that clip says it feeds on red blood cells.

 

[BYOP88]

The bit you highlighted really is quite interesting/revealing.
First, the way froome hesitates there suggests he's uncomfortable talking about it, he seems to be hiding some parts of the story, while instantly fabricating other parts. In any case he needs waaay too much time to think.
And what ffs was the role of the UCI there?
The whole story rambles like a broken record.
Sounds like UCI spotted heavy disruptions in his bloodprofile, and in consultance with team Sky decided to give the guy a break + fabricate an excuse to circumvent any future anomalys in his passportprofile.
And of course, Pat/UCI was already in bed with Sky prior to 2010.

Well what he says in that clip blows what Miss Cound said about the 'illness' on this very forum, right out of the ballpark.

I agree, it plays like he's trying to remember a script when he's talking about badzilla. The story has changed so many damn times and journalists are not picking up on these changes to the story and if they are picking up on the changes they're doing nothing and are therefore nothing more than PR shills for Sky.

 

[sniper]

And even that doesn't match up - as the Sky doctor told Walsh that there was no real difference in his blood from before that Vuelta to after....but Chris in that clip says it feeds on red blood cells.

I think only Walsh gives any credibility to what Freeman told him during that coffeebreak.
Wonder how Walsh spins it in the biography.

 

[sniper]

Well what he says in that clip blows what Miss Cound said about the 'illness' on this very forum, right out of the ballpark.

I agree, it plays like he's trying to remember a script when he's talking about badzilla. The story has changed some many damn times and journalists are not picking up on these changes to the story and if they are picking up on the changes they're doing nothing and are therefore nothing more than PR shills for Sky.

Bingo.
When he mentions the UCI, for a moment there you see him think 'ups, was that in the script?'
Probably not!

 

[Granville57]

The story has changed some many damn times...

Which is why I questioned "Michelle" directly about this latest version of events:

Yes he was first diagnosed after his brother had found out that he was riddled with it and suggested he get a test.

However, she has yet to address the absence of such facts in that video clip of Chris' own words.

That being said, I can certainly understand when people are misquoted; or when things, literally, get lost in translation; or when some dates, times and locations relating to events may simply get confused in one's memory. Such things are normal and happen all the time.

That's why I hope that Froome has gone over the entire text of his forthcoming book (or paid someone else to do it) with a fine toothed combed so that all these little particulars are finally sorted out. Because once that thing is released, people are going to hold it up as the "official" version of events, and most will have little, if any, patience for any contradictions contained within, or for any excuses for errors within the book itself, should they appear.

Based on what we've been presented with thus far, I suspect that the book will only stoke the flames some more.

 

[sniper]

Which is why I questioned "Michelle" directly about this latest version of events:


However, she has yet to address the absence of such facts in that video clip of Chris' own words.

That being said, I can certainly understand when people are misquoted; or when things, literally, get lost in translation; or when some dates, times and locations relating to events may simply get confused in one's memory. Such things are normal and happen all the time.

That's why I hope that Froome has gone over the entire text of his forthcoming book (or paid someone else to do it) with a fine toothed combed so that all these little particulars are finally sorted out. Because once that thing is released, people are going to hold it up as the "official" version of events, and most will have little, if any, patience for any contradictions contained within, or for any excuses for errors within the book itself, should they appear.

Based on what we've been presented with thus far, I suspect that the book will only stoke the flames some more.

Somehow i think walsh might not have been the right man for that job.
He doesn't strike me as very thorough, judgin from ITS.
The cover of the Froome biography already contains sort of an error (though it may not disturb many):
Froome aint the 100th TdF champion, but the champion of the 100th Tdf.
On twitter Walsh acknowledges the mistake.
No doubt the parts of the book where doping is discussed are gonna be a good laugh.

 

[SundayRider]

Somehow i think walsh might not have been the right man for that job.

No doubt the parts of the book where doping is discussed are gonna be a good laugh.

Probably carbon copy of Wiggins book in that regard. "I've always been a hard worker, sports cleaned up - allowing me to achieve the results I have blah blah, bio passport is so effective, Sky do monthly internal testing blah blah, I couldn't lie to my girlfriend/parents/cat blah blah, rather srub toilets/work in a factory blah blah".

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Probably carbon copy of Wiggins book in that regard. "I've always been a hard worker, sports cleaned up - allowing me to achieve the results I have blah blah, bio passport is so effective, Sky do monthly internal testing blah blah, I couldn't lie to my girlfriend/parents/cat blah blah, rather srub toilets/work in a factory blah blah".

Gotta get the African angle in the book. Giving the continent hope etc.......

 

[The Hitch]

Probably carbon copy of Wiggins book in that regard. "I've always been a hard worker, sports cleaned up - allowing me to achieve the results I have blah blah, bio passport is so effective, Sky do monthly internal testing blah blah, I couldn't lie to my girlfriend/parents/cat blah blah, rather srub toilets/work in a factory blah blah".

Did wiggins say the sport cleaned up ? That excuse can in theory work for froome. It cannot work for a guy who came 4th in 2009.

 

[roundabout]

Regarding the sport cleaning up

Yesterday I did a little back of the envelope calculation for one of his best pre-transformation GT climbing stages

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2009//giro09/?id=stages/giro0916

Obviously the 7 hour duration is a major factor, but his VAM on the last climb was a rather modest 1360 m/h

In 2014 over on the Croix Fry, an approximately similar climb in duration after a shorter, but more difficult stage his VAM was 1560 m/h

Of course these are very rough measurements and many factors have to be taken into account.

 

[arvc40]

Gotta get the African angle in the book. Giving the continent hope etc.......

Cant waste my time on Biography's. Born, raced bikes, won races, end.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

In 2008, Chris rode the Tour de France but finished 2:22:33 behind the winner. He has a world beating VO2max, yet he's nowhere.

It may be unusal, but certainly not unprecedented.

Circa 2 decades earlier, another rider with a world beating VO2max finished even worse, down 2hr 53min 18sec to the winner (not to mention the general stark up and downs in results for 2 years in a row by then). Only to win the TdF some weeks later with a battered body, further weakened by mitochondrial myopathy and anemia...

http://bikeraceinfo.com/giro/giro1990.html

Guys, please scroll down to the 105th spot for more infos...

 

[deeno1975]

Cant waste my time on Biography's. Born, raced bikes, won races, end.

Might even get the, who was in the room when the doctor told him that he had bilharzia

 

[bigcog]

Regarding the sport cleaning up

Yesterday I did a little back of the envelope calculation for one of his best pre-transformation GT climbing stages

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2009//giro09/?id=stages/giro0916

Obviously the 7 hour duration is a major factor, but his VAM on the last climb was a rather modest 1360 m/h

In 2014 over on the Croix Fry, an approximately similar climb in duration after a shorter, but more difficult stage his VAM was 1560 m/h

Of course these are very rough measurements and many factors have to be taken into account.

Have you perfected time travel ?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

http://youtu.be/1bKuqFBrE9o?t=10m44s Seems it was due to the UCI passport that he found out he had it. I thought is brother had it and told him to get checked out?

Thanks for providing the link directly to his words.

I think we have a winner here, this blows the whole story wide open as far as I am concerned.

Good grief.

 

[Afrank]

Speaking of hotties, long time no hear from 13! You still haven't sent me those pix.

So, Froome's GF, partner, bed buddy, whatever comes in here trying to get along, and she gets dog piled by hitch and DW, and even a mod afrank is piling on. Chivalry has lost its mojo, apparently.

It's called debate, if Michelle Cound is going to post here she doesn't get special treatment just because she's Froomes fiancee, or because she's "hot."

Other members are perfectly within their right to question and respond to her posts so long as they do so within the forum rules.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

In 2008, Chris rode the Tour de France but finished 2:22:33 behind the winner. He has a world beating VO2max, yet he's nowhere.

It may be unusal, but certainly not unprecedented.

Circa 2 decades earlier, another rider with a world beating VO2max finished even worse, down 2hr 53min 18sec to the winner (not to mention the general stark up and downs in results for 2 years in a row by then). Only to win the TdF some weeks later with a battered body, further weakened by mitochondrial myopathy and anemia...

http://bikeraceinfo.com/giro/giro1990.html

Guys, please scroll down to the 105th spot for more infos...

 

[Digger]

Have you perfected time travel ?

Haha we have a Marty Mcfly in the clinic!

 

[Dear Wiggo]

It may be unusal, but certainly not unprecedented.

Circa 2 decades earlier, another rider with a world beating VO2max finished even worse, down 2hr 53min 18sec to the winner (not to mention the general stark up and downs in results for 2 years in a row by then). Only to win the TdF some weeks later with a battered body, further weakened by mitochondrial myopathy and anemia...

http://bikeraceinfo.com/giro/giro1990.html

Guys, please scroll down to the 105th spot for more infos...

Of course. How could I not see the similarities between Greg LeMond and Chris Froome. It's almost as if I have never ridden a bike nor seen a race.

If I find a single explanation for this particular performance, like we ended up doing so for Wiggo's L'Avenir stage, do you promise to pay recompense?

 

[sniper]

Thanks for providing the link directly to his words.

I think we have a winner here, this blows the whole story wide open as far as I am concerned.

Good grief.

it does, doesnt it.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Of course. How could I not see the similarities between Greg LeMond and Chris Froome. It's almost as if I have never ridden a bike nor seen a race.

You should know by now, I like to hold up a mirror now and then.
A lot of similarities between Froome pre-Vuelta and Lemond-after-shooting. Even including bilharzia kind of things...

 

[ChewbaccaD]

It may be unusal, but certainly not unprecedented.

Circa 2 decades earlier, another rider with a world beating VO2max finished even worse, down 2hr 53min 18sec to the winner (not to mention the general stark up and downs in results for 2 years in a row by then). Only to win the TdF some weeks later with a battered body, further weakened by mitochondrial myopathy and anemia...

http://bikeraceinfo.com/giro/giro1990.html

Guys, please scroll down to the 105th spot for more infos...

So now Froome has always shown the same talent as Lemond...in Bizarroworld maybe.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

You know I like to hold up a mirror now and then.
A lot of similarities between Froome pre-Vuelta and Lemond-after-shooting. Even including bilharzia kind of things...

And nothing similar between Froome and Lemond other than that.