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TheSpud said:
Benotti69 said:
TheSpud said:
You are trying so hard to ignore the obvious. Sky have proven they lied. Froome has proven he is a liar. Why do you expect this to be any different? Why are you desperate to believe Froome is the real mccoy?
Why will this data suddenly be the magic numbers and Froome is the greatest ever human who ever competed? But no one knew till Vuelta'11?
So many smoke screens have been put out since Vuelta'11 and four years of obfuscation and shouting down everyone who questioned, we get another pr excercise with a journalist so embedded it is beyond laughable!!
Being a liar (or a poor story teller) doesn't make one a doper. The guy isnt the sharpest knife in the block (by some way) - I'm surprised he can remember one day from the next. So Sky have lied / not been fully transparent about a lot of things - why would they be? They want to protect their methods (whether you think legal or not) - not exactly unreasonable.
Maybe you missed the big declaration by Brailsford where he said Sky was going to be clean and fully, completely and utterly transparent. They were going to take the best training methods and ring every last gain out of them.
Now there is nothing to hide in that. Warm ups, warm downs, own pillows, washing hands, no nutella, no beer, no sunbathing, pineapple juice in the bidons etc etc.....still doesn't explain gigantic transformations in Sky riders.
Sky have not released any data to show that for example pineapple juice in the bidon is a gain.
Rudy Altig was doing yoga in the 60s as part of his training. Sky would love their fans (and general public) to believe that Sky are revolutionary in their methods. But they are not.
They did nothing till Geert Leinders, Jullich, Yates, DeJongh et al arrived and hey presto Froome blows away everyone at Vuleta'11 and Wiggins at the age of 32 had a season not seen since Eddy Merckx.
Now we know doping has not gone away. Testing was not independent and McQuaid was running the circus. The doping doctors, including Leinders, Ibauguren and Ferrari(to name but 3)were plying their trades and yet somehow people still want to have us believe that just maybe Froome is this one of kind, who not until the ripe age of 26 had anyone thinking this guy is world class, never mind world tour material and beating dopers.
Oh and Froome is not a liar, he just forgets stuff. This guy supposedly cant tie his sand shoe laces or remember yesterday but can win 2 TdFs.
And you want us to give the data a chance. PUHLEEEAAASE stop obfuscating this thread.