Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Maxiton]

Re: Re:

Tucker on the issue back in December:

We can all see the moon on a clear night. It's getting around the back to the dark side of the moon that is the challenge, and a piece in Esquire, rather than in a peer-reviewed journal, runs the risk of having a very large dark side. And so my read of it will be to examine what is not being disclosed, and why?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/what-to-expect-from-chris-froomes-physiological-test-data/

I like the last paragraph in the comments under that article and agree with it:-
"I'll settle for the poor sod to be able to ride up an Alp in July without getting covered in piss"

Don't know if it's true, but I heard that this year several fans are sharing plans for a new formula involving a combination of aged piss and rotten eggs. A kind of stink napalm, I guess.

 

[sniper]

from Fred's post in the tennis thread:
viewtopic.php?p=1879770#p1879770

Walsh does finish off with quoting the dawg
" he was asked what percentage of riders were still doping in his sport. Whilst insisting he could not be sure, his estimate was that perhaps 3-4% were still cheating. He was then asked to put a number on the percentage of riders guilty of unethical behaviour, using legal medications for purposes for which the were not intended "Forty to fifty percent" he said."

 

[blackcat]

Re:

I heard now that G is targeting the Tour, Froome has decided to put on weight and stick it to Wiggins by winning Paris Roubaix...

...at least that was my first thought when I read this http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/12/widnes-vikings-rugby-super-league-2016

he borrowed the dags forehead and growth factors

#phrenology #poe's_law

 

[TheSpud]

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I heard now that G is targeting the Tour, Froome has decided to put on weight and stick it to Wiggins by winning Paris Roubaix...

...at least that was my first thought when I read this http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/12/widnes-vikings-rugby-super-league-2016

he borrowed the dags forehead and growth factors

#phrenology #poe's_law

I actually had to go and look at that - I thought it was a photoshop job, but clearly not!

 

[Jakub]

Actually Froome's voice was reported to be significantly lower and richer than before.
Of course there are other possibilities: simply cold or overused noduls - I doubt that, one thing is that ot would have happened before during all the races - or the natural change of voice that also happens - see Elton John, Freddie or James Dean Bradfield - but this I know only with singers that use their voice extensively.

The third reason is.... Hormones, specifically testosteron. I always laugh when I see LA's interviews during the years. First he speaks like a bird later his voice is lower and lower and his face more and more evil. After retirement I think it has returned to the midpoint.

 

[sniper]

Re:

Actually Froome's voice was reported to be significantly lower and richer than before.
Of course there are other possibilities: simply cold or overused noduls - I doubt that, one thing is that ot would have happened before during all the races - or the natural change of voice that also happens - see Elton John, Freddie or James Dean Bradfield - but this I know only with singers that use their voice extensively.

The third reason is.... Hormones, specifically testosteron. I always laugh when I see LA's interviews during the years. First he speaks like a bird later his voice is lower and lower and his face more and more evil. After retirement I think it has returned to the midpoint.

i like this hypothesis.
it would be great if you (or anybody with time on their hands) could provide some soundbites to support it.

 

[sniper]

seriously though, it's the kind of stuff sports scientists should be looking at, rather than spending tax payer money on disposable stuff like "Previous experience influences pacing during 20 km time trial cycling". Every clown can draw that conclusion.

 

[Jakub]

Re: Re:

Actually Froome's voice was reported to be significantly lower and richer than before.
Of course there are other possibilities: simply cold or overused noduls - I doubt that, one thing is that ot would have happened before during all the races - or the natural change of voice that also happens - see Elton John, Freddie or James Dean Bradfield - but this I know only with singers that use their voice extensively.

The third reason is.... Hormones, specifically testosteron. I always laugh when I see LA's interviews during the years. First he speaks like a bird later his voice is lower and lower and his face more and more evil. After retirement I think it has returned to the midpoint.

i like this hypothesis.
it would be great if you (or anybody with time on their hands) could provide some soundbites to support it.

Well, it would take some time... Just quickly I found this, I must admit it sounded a bit fake to me first, but in the end the difference is something which I couldn't imitate being singer myself. At least it would need weeks of training. I am gonna find some LA interviews later on PC.

https://youtu.be/xU_2wTlq6hc

I am a bit surprised by the laughing reactions. The side effects are very important, the doped DDR female athletes are a good examples.

Also the aggresivity is pretty obvious. I mean there is always adrenaline when you win a stage, but the gestures of early LA are crazy. Of course it's a combination of two doping related issues: he was not tired at all, nothing hurted - and the hormones. Later when he had to lower his doping, it has changed- because he was more tired.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Actually Froome's voice was reported to be significantly lower and richer than before.
Of course there are other possibilities: simply cold or overused noduls - I doubt that, one thing is that ot would have happened before during all the races - or the natural change of voice that also happens - see Elton John, Freddie or James Dean Bradfield - but this I know only with singers that use their voice extensively.

The third reason is.... Hormones, specifically testosteron. I always laugh when I see LA's interviews during the years. First he speaks like a bird later his voice is lower and lower and his face more and more evil. After retirement I think it has returned to the midpoint.

i like this hypothesis.
it would be great if you (or anybody with time on their hands) could provide some soundbites to support it.

Well, it would take some time... Just quickly I found this, I must admit it sounded a bit fake to me first, but in the end the difference is something which I couldn't imitate being singer myself. At least it would need weeks of training. I am gonna find some LA interviews later on PC.

https://youtu.be/xU_2wTlq6hc

I am a bit surprised by the laughing reactions. The side effects are very important, the doped DDR female athletes are a good examples.

Also the aggresivity is pretty obvious. I mean there is always adrenaline when you win a stage, but the gestures of early LA are crazy. Of course it's a combination of two doping related issues: he was not tired at all, nothing hurted - and the hormones. Later when he had to lower his doping, it has changed- because he was more tired.

thanks Jakub, I will look at/listen to/comment on it later.
And good point wrt the DDR female athletes.

The laughing reactions typically come from people (a) with blinders on, (b) with a desire to deliberately deflect away from doping or (c) with a lack of imagination.

As for the aggressivity: again, good point.
Both Bradly Wiggins and Cadel Evans have provided several beautiful cases in point.
I might post some examples from Brad later in the Sky or Wiggins thread.

 

[pastronef]

oh dear couldn´t you wait until this afternoon Catalunya MTF stage? there will be plenty of topic to talk about

but just stop with the voice comparison! haaaaaaaahahahah!
wtf

 

[Jakub]

Re: Re:

Actually Froome's voice was reported to be significantly lower and richer than before.
Of course there are other possibilities: simply cold or overused noduls - I doubt that, one thing is that ot would have happened before during all the races - or the natural change of voice that also happens - see Elton John, Freddie or James Dean Bradfield - but this I know only with singers that use their voice extensively.

The third reason is.... Hormones, specifically testosteron. I always laugh when I see LA's interviews during the years. First he speaks like a bird later his voice is lower and lower and his face more and more evil. After retirement I think it has returned to the midpoint.

i like this hypothesis.
it would be great if you (or anybody with time on their hands) could provide some soundbites to support it.

Well, it would take some time... Just quickly I found this, I must admit it sounded a bit fake to me first, but in the end the difference is something which I couldn't imitate being singer myself. At least it would need weeks of training. I am gonna find some LA interviews later on PC.

https://youtu.be/xU_2wTlq6hc

I am a bit surprised by the laughing reactions. The side effects are very important, the doped DDR female athletes are a good examples.

Also the aggresivity is pretty obvious. I mean there is always adrenaline when you win a stage, but the gestures of early LA are crazy. Of course it's a combination of two doping related issues: he was not tired at all, nothing hurted - and the hormones. Later when he had to lower his doping, it has changed- because he was more tired.

thanks Jakub, I will look at/listen to/comment on it later.
And good point wrt the DDR female athletes.

The laughing reactions typically come from people (a) with blinders on, (b) with a desire to deliberately deflect away from doping or (c) with a lack of imagination.

As for the aggressivity: again, good point.
Both Bradly Wiggins and Cadel Evans have provided several beautiful cases in point.
I might post some examples from Brad later in the Sky or Wiggins thread.

So, LA
1996
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TlU2IfTJGyg
1999
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HnYNswwnTSk
2005
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4yNzMjAOo0

I must self-critically admit that the change in voice could be natural, it is not a superchange, on the other hand he is not a smoker, I doubt he drank alcohol during that time and we all know he took testosterone...

 

[sniper]

Re:

.......so now we must wait for a cyclist to..................sing? ...........Mark L

preferably two recordings with 8 years in between so as to allow for decent comparison.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re: Re:

.......so now we must wait for a cyclist to..................sing? ...........Mark L

preferably two recordings with 8 years in between so as to allow for decent comparison.

but they all have to sing from the same (BC) hymn sheet

 

[deeno1975]

To go off topic for a moment...

"Froomey" and "G" didn't have the best of days... would have expected both to be contenders today, especially as the climb was not super difficult. Lets see what happens tomorrow... Wonder if there is a moto control on this race????

The Sky commentators turn my stomach with those "matey" references to Froome and Thomas

 

[roundabout]

Re: Re:

Actually Froome's voice was reported to be significantly lower and richer than before.
Of course there are other possibilities: simply cold or overused noduls - I doubt that, one thing is that ot would have happened before during all the races - or the natural change of voice that also happens - see Elton John, Freddie or James Dean Bradfield - but this I know only with singers that use their voice extensively.

The third reason is.... Hormones, specifically testosteron. I always laugh when I see LA's interviews during the years. First he speaks like a bird later his voice is lower and lower and his face more and more evil. After retirement I think it has returned to the midpoint.

i like this hypothesis.
it would be great if you (or anybody with time on their hands) could provide some soundbites to support it.

Well, it would take some time... Just quickly I found this, I must admit it sounded a bit fake to me first, but in the end the difference is something which I couldn't imitate being singer myself. At least it would need weeks of training. I am gonna find some LA interviews later on PC.

https://youtu.be/xU_2wTlq6hc

I am a bit surprised by the laughing reactions. The side effects are very important, the doped DDR female athletes are a good examples.

Also the aggresivity is pretty obvious. I mean there is always adrenaline when you win a stage, but the gestures of early LA are crazy. Of course it's a combination of two doping related issues: he was not tired at all, nothing hurted - and the hormones. Later when he had to lower his doping, it has changed- because he was more tired.

thanks Jakub, I will look at/listen to/comment on it later.
And good point wrt the DDR female athletes.

The laughing reactions typically come from people (a) with blinders on, (b) with a desire to deliberately deflect away from doping or (c) with a lack of imagination.

As for the aggressivity: again, good point.
Both Bradly Wiggins and Cadel Evans have provided several beautiful cases in point.
I might post some examples from Brad later in the Sky or Wiggins thread.

You must have forgotten what Evans sounds like.

 

[veganrob]

"I cut your head off"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe79ZuDKfk&spfreload=10

 

[red_flanders]

Re: Re:

Well, it would take some time... Just quickly I found this, I must admit it sounded a bit fake to me first, but in the end the difference is something which I couldn't imitate being singer myself. At least it would need weeks of training. I am gonna find some LA interviews later on PC.

https://youtu.be/xU_2wTlq6hc

I am a bit surprised by the laughing reactions. The side effects are very important, the doped DDR female athletes are a good examples.

Also the aggresivity is pretty obvious. I mean there is always adrenaline when you win a stage, but the gestures of early LA are crazy. Of course it's a combination of two doping related issues: he was not tired at all, nothing hurted - and the hormones. Later when he had to lower his doping, it has changed- because he was more tired.

Not to discount the hypothesis, but that kid may be experiencing more voice change than a grown man given he's right at the age when it would happen anyway.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

Well, it would take some time... Just quickly I found this, I must admit it sounded a bit fake to me first, but in the end the difference is something which I couldn't imitate being singer myself. At least it would need weeks of training. I am gonna find some LA interviews later on PC.

https://youtu.be/xU_2wTlq6hc

I am a bit surprised by the laughing reactions. The side effects are very important, the doped DDR female athletes are a good examples.

Also the aggresivity is pretty obvious. I mean there is always adrenaline when you win a stage, but the gestures of early LA are crazy. Of course it's a combination of two doping related issues: he was not tired at all, nothing hurted - and the hormones. Later when he had to lower his doping, it has changed- because he was more tired.

Not to discount the hypothesis, but that kid may be experiencing more voice change than a grown man given he's right at the age when it would happen anyway.

true.
on the other hand, it is sad to observe that this 14/15 year old kid alone has done more research on the effects of doping than Jeroen Swart and the GSK guys together.

 

[sniper]

"I cut your head off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe79ZuDKfk&spfreload=10

Wiggo pushes harmless fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqLYH1k7Lo

in 2009 Wiggo allegedly also kicked the crap out of somebody in a hotel hallway.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/blog/tour-de-france-in-andorra-67659#Z3xXBlqJwkRHoy13.99

to keep it on topic: Wiggins and Cadel do make Chris look like a rather agreeable bloke.

 

[The Hitch]

"I cut your head off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe79ZuDKfk&spfreload=10

Wiggo pushes harmless fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqLYH1k7Lo

in 2009 Wiggo allegedly also kicked the crap out of somebody in a hotel hallway.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/blog/tour-de-france-in-andorra-67659#Z3xXBlqJwkRHoy13.99

to keep it on topic: Wiggins and Cadel do make Chris look like a rather agreeable bloke.

Froome is more sinister. He takes out his mental issues on animals.

 

[Singer01]

Re:

To go off topic for a moment...

"Froomey" and "G" didn't have the best of days... would have expected both to be contenders today, especially as the climb was not super difficult. Lets see what happens tomorrow... Wonder if there is a moto control on this race????

The Sky commentators turn my stomach with those "matey" references to Froome and Thomas

Catalunya isn't on sky, its on eurosport isn't it?

 

[pastronef]

"I cut your head off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe79ZuDKfk&spfreload=10

Wiggo pushes harmless fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqLYH1k7Lo

in 2009 Wiggo allegedly also kicked the crap out of somebody in a hotel hallway.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/blog/tour-de-france-in-andorra-67659#Z3xXBlqJwkRHoy13.99

to keep it on topic: Wiggins and Cadel do make Chris look like a rather agreeable bloke.

Froome is more sinister. He takes out his mental issues on animals.

really the clinic would be a bore without Sky/Froome
thanks for the fun

 

[deeno1975]

Re: Re:

To go off topic for a moment...

"Froomey" and "G" didn't have the best of days... would have expected both to be contenders today, especially as the climb was not super difficult. Lets see what happens tomorrow... Wonder if there is a moto control on this race????

The Sky commentators turn my stomach with those "matey" references to Froome and Thomas

Catalunya isn't on sky, its on eurosport isn't it?

Yes the race is on Eurosport which is part of the Sky Satellite TV service. I know the commentators are English and they'll be pro English teams but the "Froomey" and "G" makes it tough listening....

 

[simoni]

"I cut your head off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe79ZuDKfk&spfreload=10

Wiggo pushes harmless fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqLYH1k7Lo

in 2009 Wiggo allegedly also kicked the crap out of somebody in a hotel hallway.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/blog/tour-de-france-in-andorra-67659#Z3xXBlqJwkRHoy13.99

to keep it on topic: Wiggins and Cadel do make Chris look like a rather agreeable bloke.

Do read that cyclingweekly article again. A bit more carefully.

 

[sniper]

besides wiggo kicking the crap out of somebody in a hotel hallway, what did i miss?