Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[thehog]

Re:

Why would anyone even use prednisone for performance gains? It's a catabolic drug (breaks your muscle down).

Why would anyone use a motor during a race, it brakes down the ozone layer.

Dude, he smashed Romandie with the flu on the stuff, clearly it works

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Why would anyone even use prednisone for performance gains? It's a catabolic drug (breaks your muscle down).

Why would anyone use a motor during a race, it brakes down the ozone layer.

Dude, he smashed Romandie with the flu on the stuff, clearly it works

A motor improves your performance, prednisone harms it.

If he "smashed" Romandie it was despite the prednisone, not because of it.

 

[kwikki]

Re: Re:

Why would anyone even use prednisone for performance gains? It's a catabolic drug (breaks your muscle down).

Why would anyone use a motor during a race, it brakes down the ozone layer.

Dude, he smashed Romandie with the flu on the stuff, clearly it works

A motor improves your performance, prednisone harms it.

If he "smashed" Romandie it was despite the prednisone, not because of it.

Err....no. definitely not.

Prednisolone gives enormous PEs when going all out. That is why it is banned.

Froome went into the final stage of the TdR in second place with one second deficit. He took back that second plus another 28.

TT is an all out effort. Pred is ideal. What is even more ridiculous is that the TT was short. Plus he beat the WC Tony Martin, just for the lols.

 

[thehog]

Uh huh, beat the Tour champion of that year by 1:48, smashing it

 

[TheSpud]

Uh huh, beat the Tour champion of that year by 1:48, smashing it

The (eventual) TDF winner who was only concentrating on the TDF and who by all accounts was keeping a low profile, and whose two major rivals were out (in said TDF) - although we'll never know how strong they would have been. But yeah he did win that TT quite well ...

It is, though, a very powerful steroid that can be used to treat a large amount of conditions. In Froome's case it was to open up his airways and chest cavity - did it give a performance boost? Of course - why ask for the TUE if it didn't? Ignoring whether the TUE was fast tracked correctly (or not) - using Pred with a TUE (emergency or not) is allowed. The real issue is the misuse of TUEs - although that has been covered a zillion times.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Focused on GT is code for ......PED popper .

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Err....no. definitely not.

Prednisolone gives enormous PEs when going all out. That is why it is banned.

Nah. Prednisolone's only use in sports (which is presumably why it is used) is as a great painkiller.

In exchange for these painkilling effects, you get:

*an increased rate of muscle breakdown
*bone wasting
*immunosuppression
*skin thinning
*joint damage

You might want to read this thread before going nuts over prednisolone again.

viewtopic.php?t=25788

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

Err....no. definitely not.

Prednisolone gives enormous PEs when going all out. That is why it is banned.

Nah. Prednisolone's only use in sports (which is presumably why it is used) is as a great painkiller.

In exchange for these painkilling effects, you get:

*an increased rate of muscle breakdown
*bone wasting
*immunosuppression
*skin thinning
*joint damage

You might want to read this thread before going nuts over prednisolone again.

viewtopic.php?t=25788

Weight loss is weight loss.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Nah. Prednisolone's only use in sports (which is presumably why it is used) is as a great painkiller.

In exchange for these painkilling effects, you get:

*an increased rate of muscle breakdown
*bone wasting
*immunosuppression
*skin thinning
*joint damage

You might want to read this thread before going nuts over prednisolone again.

viewtopic.php?t=25788

Weight loss is weight loss.

What's the use of weight loss when your muscles are melting away too?

 

[veganrob]

Re: Re:

Nah. Prednisolone's only use in sports (which is presumably why it is used) is as a great painkiller.

In exchange for these painkilling effects, you get:

*an increased rate of muscle breakdown
*bone wasting
*immunosuppression
*skin thinning
*joint damage

You might want to read this thread before going nuts over prednisolone again.

viewtopic.php?t=25788

Weight loss is weight loss.

What's the use of weight loss when your muscles are melting away too?

Short term it is a very effective PED

 

[thehog]

Uh huh, beat the Tour champion of that year by 1:48, smashing it

The (eventual) TDF winner who was only concentrating on the TDF and who by all accounts was keeping a low profile, and whose two major rivals were out (in said TDF) - although we'll never know how strong they would have been. But yeah he did win that TT quite well ...

It is, though, a very powerful steroid that can be used to treat a large amount of conditions. In Froome's case it was to open up his airways and chest cavity - did it give a performance boost? Of course - why ask for the TUE if it didn't? Ignoring whether the TUE was fast tracked correctly (or not) - using Pred with a TUE (emergency or not) is allowed. The real issue is the misuse of TUEs - although that has been covered a zillion times.

Yes, smashing it, dawg style

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

 

[veganrob]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805102

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805102

"Short-term" being the operative words.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

Bro science?

 

[SeriousSam]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805102

"Short-term" being the operative words.

So which part of the study convinced you that you were right all along when you asserted that

If he "smashed" Romandie it was despite the prednisone, not because of it.

 

[veganrob]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805102

"Short-term" being the operative words.

So you agree with me then. Thank you

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

Short term it is a very effective PED

A short visit to Google Scholar would disabuse you of that idea, but hey, if you want to follow bro science, be my guest.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17805102

"Short-term" being the operative words.

So you agree with me then. Thank you

Yes. I read your post too quickly the first time round and only noticed the "PED" part.

 

[blackcat]

Froome is more sinister. He takes out his mental issues on animals.

Cound goes off the boil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XykEnBpyfr4

 

[thehog]

"I cut your head off"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fe79ZuDKfk&spfreload=10

Wiggo pushes harmless fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqLYH1k7Lo

in 2009 Wiggo allegedly also kicked the crap out of somebody in a hotel hallway.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/blog/tour-de-france-in-andorra-67659#Z3xXBlqJwkRHoy13.99

to keep it on topic: Wiggins and Cadel do make Chris look like a rather agreeable bloke.

Froome is more sinister. He takes out his mental issues on animals.

I don't think they'll risk him any longer, to much chance with thermal cameras out on the Tour route. Just can't seeing them let Froome go bananas anymore.

 

[gooner]

Uh huh, beat the Tour champion of that year by 1:48, smashing it

The (eventual) TDF winner who was only concentrating on the TDF and who by all accounts was keeping a low profile, and whose two major rivals were out (in said TDF) - although we'll never know how strong they would have been. But yeah he did win that TT quite well ...

It is, though, a very powerful steroid that can be used to treat a large amount of conditions. In Froome's case it was to open up his airways and chest cavity - did it give a performance boost? Of course - why ask for the TUE if it didn't? Ignoring whether the TUE was fast tracked correctly (or not) - using Pred with a TUE (emergency or not) is allowed. The real issue is the misuse of TUEs - although that has been covered a zillion times.

Yup. I have been prescribed it multiple times. It's the obvious prescription for inflammations like I had in my throat and on another occasion the uvula. Plenty in sport would have been prescribed it.

I seen a lot of people saying that he should have been pulled out or that TUEs should be banned full stop. No one ever mentions that athletes will try and hide legit health concerns to compete if that is the case. TUEs are also there for a health concern too.

 

[gooner]

I see the Dr. Phil's out in force over Froome's treatment of animals.

That is until their own stomachs are satisfied at the dinner table.

Self-righteous BS.

 

[thehog]

40mg of horse steroids as opposed to antibiotics which are not performance enhancing, your choice Mr. Froome; "I'll take the horse steroids thanks Doc"

 

[gooner]

40mg of horse steroids as opposed to antibiotics which are not performance enhancing, your choice Mr. Froome; "I'll take the horse steroids thanks Doc"

What type of infection did Froome have?

Antiobiotics don't work with a viral infection.

 

[thehog]

40mg of horse steroids as opposed to antibiotics which are not performance enhancing, your choice Mr. Froome; "I'll take the horse steroids thanks Doc"

What type of infection did Froome have?

Antiobiotics don't work with a viral infection.

Exactly, why was he racing and why was he a smashing her race apart? With his special viral infection