Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[hrotha]

I thought results were left vacant if someone didn't test positive at a race but was caught later? Honestly, it's hard to keep up with how these rules are implemented.

 

[F_Cance]

Glad that a clean guy from a clean team got the win now instead of Como.

 

[roundabout]

Is there even a rule? I got the impression that it's a decision of the organization of the race what to do with results?

 

[Forever The Best]

At least young Schleck didn't have a positive test.

 

[Red Rick]

*** loved the days when you at least had to beat your opponents on the road instead of just pulling GT wins out of your ass.

 

[Bolder]

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**** loved the days when you at least had to beat your opponents on the road instead of just pulling GT wins out of your ***.

Ha, yeah. But I think those days ended in 1995, correct? Was Riis the first GT winner to be stripped of title years later?

I think I might agree on declaring no winner and asterisking the "winners." Reason being that unlike a one-time event like the 100 meters, there's a whole world of calculations and team tactics that go into a race, so just saying that Froome "won" the 2011 Vuelta b/c Cobo showed passport anomalies isn't a neat and tidy solution.

But to be honest, if this cheers up Froome, I'm all for it. Poor guy, and I mean that sincerely.

 

[Red Rick]

Legit wonder if they had this up their sleeve all this time and are only doing it now because of the circumstances.

 

[Red Rick]

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**** loved the days when you at least had to beat your opponents on the road instead of just pulling GT wins out of your ***.

But to be honest, if this cheers up Froome, I'm all for it. Poor guy, and I mean that sincerely.

Let's also give Armstrong a break then.

Dude had cancer ya know

 

[spalco]

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But to be honest, if this cheers up Froome, I'm all for it. Poor guy, and I mean that sincerely.

Getting beaten by Cobo I think was a great thing for his career; lighting a fire in him that made him go even one step further or two.

 

[rick james]

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Can't be coincidence that they announce this today

 

[rick james]

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**** loved the days when you at least had to beat your opponents on the road instead of just pulling GT wins out of your ***.

 

[thehog]

Cobo has said he plans to appeal the decision using Froome’s Ventoux performance in 2013 as evidence he wasn’t the only one cheating :lol:

 

[rick james]

Cobo has said he plans to appeal the decision using Froome’s Ventoux performance in 2013 as evidence he wasn’t the only one cheating :lol:

Take it to the cobo thread please

 

[macbindle]

Cobo has said he plans to appeal the decision using Froome’s Ventoux performance in 2013 as evidence he wasn’t the only one cheating :lol:

Surely all Cobo has to do is use any of Froome's performances pre-2011 Vuelta to demonstrate that he wasnt the only cheat in that race

 

[dacooley]

yea, guys, yesterday's indulgence attack didn't last for too long. froome is once again a villain because of cobo getiing stripped the vuelta off. )

 

[Red Rick]

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yea, guys, yesterday's indulgence attack didn't last for too long. froome is once again a villain because of cobo getiing stripped the vuelta off. )

Is that how this is supposed to work? Froome crashing yesterday does not affect him being an insult to the viewerships intelligence in the slightest.

 

[nayr497]

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But to be honest, if this cheers up Froome, I'm all for it. Poor guy, and I mean that sincerely.

Getting beaten by Cobo I think was a great thing for his career; lighting a fire in him that made him go even one step further or two.

That is what I was thinking. A guy who is very clearly cheating...sorry, I don't really care what happens to him. Call me evil. Call me soulless. But if you are out there making millions and lying directly to everyone, um....so what if you have some bad luck?

You didn't exactly instill a reason to care about you. My feeling is that plenty of decent people have awful things happen to them. So when something bad happens to someone choosing to do illegal things, sorry, I don't have much energy to sympathize. I didn't wish him ill. But I don't really care that he had some bad luck. He didn't really care about lying to everyone, did he?

 

[rick james]

Cobo has said he plans to appeal the decision using Froome’s Ventoux performance in 2013 as evidence he wasn’t the only one cheating :lol:

Surely all Cobo has to do is use any of Froome's performances pre-2011 Vuelta to demonstrate that he wasnt the only cheat in that race

Yip, that’s clearly how the legal system work

 

[Simurgh]

“Some bad luck”, come on, man’s career is probably over, and cheat or not (I consider him one as per my post in the Cobo thread), being indifferent or even happy (A friend of mine was gleeful to my disgust) is taking it to the limit, if not crossing it. You don’t need to weep for the cheat or weep for the cyclist, but weep for him as a fellow human being - I for one, do!

 

[86TDFWinner]

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Legit wonder if they had this up their sleeve all this time and are only doing it now because of the circumstances.

Good point. Froome seems to have nearly the same power in this sport as Wonderboy did, which is sad.

 

[86TDFWinner]

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But to be honest, if this cheers up Froome, I'm all for it. Poor guy, and I mean that sincerely.

Getting beaten by Cobo I think was a great thing for his career; lighting a fire in him that made him go even one step further or two.

One step further or two=doping!

 

[86TDFWinner]

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But to be honest, if this cheers up Froome, I'm all for it. Poor guy, and I mean that sincerely.

Getting beaten by Cobo I think was a great thing for his career; lighting a fire in him that made him go even one step further or two.

That is what I was thinking. A guy who is very clearly cheating...sorry, I don't really care what happens to him. Call me evil. Call me soulless. But if you are out there making millions and lying directly to everyone, um....so what if you have some bad luck?

You didn't exactly instill a reason to care about you. My feeling is that plenty of decent people have awful things happen to them. So when something bad happens to someone choosing to do illegal things, sorry, I don't have much energy to sympathize. I didn't wish him ill. But I don't really care that he had some bad luck. He didn't really care about lying to everyone, did he?

This. Good post, I agree.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Cobo has said he plans to appeal the decision using Froome’s Ventoux performance in 2013 as evidence he wasn’t the only one cheating :lol:

Surely all Cobo has to do is use any of Froome's performances pre-2011 Vuelta to demonstrate that he wasnt the only cheat in that race

Yip, that’s clearly how the legal system work

If your name is: Wonderboy/Froome/Astana it is.

 

[Alpe73]

Cobo has said he plans to appeal the decision using Froome’s Ventoux performance in 2013 as evidence he wasn’t the only one cheating :lol:

Surely all Cobo has to do is use any of Froome's performances pre-2011 Vuelta to demonstrate that he wasnt the only cheat in that race

Yip, that’s clearly how the legal system work

If your name is: Wonderboy/Froome/Astana it is.

You're making progress, ateysicks ... you'll soon have them. :lol:

 

[Alpe73]

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yea, guys, yesterday's indulgence attack didn't last for too long. froome is once again a villain because of cobo getiing stripped the vuelta off. )

Is that how this is supposed to work? Froome crashing yesterday does not affect him being an insult to the viewerships intelligence in the slightest.

No ... you're right ... no more or no less than your insensitivity being an insult to the intelligence of this thread's viewership. :geek: