Fuglsang punished

[Cimber]

Bruyeneel called Fuglsang and told him there will be no more WT-races for him this season (including the Vuelta). Reason is that Jakob has been talking to the media about his unhappiness with the non-Tour selection and that he is talking to other teams.

Not really surprising knowing Bruyneel, and tbh Jakob has been a tad to open mouthed / illoyal. That said its still a tad harsh.

http://translate.google.com/transla...trabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article1782604.ece

 

[ansimi]

For me, the most surprising thing is that Bruyneel is still in a position to make such decisions...

 

[Kazistuta]

Well, Bruyneels actions speak louder than words.

Yep, Fuglsang could have handled his situation more delicately, but to leave him out of WT races for the rest of the year seems a bit exaggerated. Bruyneel really IS a man on a ledge this year.

I really hate these effects of the stupid UCI point system, which means riders will be left out of races for the sole purpose of preventing them from scoring points for an eventual new team. We've seen something of this sort before, but we're in freaking June and Fuglsang already knows he won't race on WT level for the rest of the season!! Jeez, Louise.....

I'm sure Fuglsang will top5 in Austria then.

(Hadn't seen your topic, so I posted the link in the Radioshack-Trek thread)

 

[CasperVg]

It makes sense to punish riders that are disloyal, like Fuglsang, imo. He looked weak in Suisse so he didn't get a Tour spot, that's all there's to it. RNST might be in trouble, but they definately have better Tour GC options than a weak/out-of-form Fuglsang. I'm sure he felt "robbed" after not going to the Giro because of injuries and not going to the Tour, but normally riders are supposed not to comment on it in the press.

 

[peterst6906]

As much as I dislike Bruyneel as a DS, I can't blame him for this when you compare it to the practice of businesses in other professions.

If an employee is publicly disloyal, there are not too many employers I am aware of prepared to stand by and continue to offer them the best opportunities, especially when they could use those opportunities to the advantage of a competitor in the future.

 

[Kazistuta]

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...ion-for-RadioShacks-Tour-de-France-squad.aspx

If the above interview is what JB/Becca considers "too vocal criticism", I suggest they consider getting another job. The statements made in that interview is nothing compared to what other disappointed riders have stated earlier.

I just think Radioshack have had such a bad year (in general) that they needed to make a statement. Though absolutely not the greatest team on the World Tour, they must be the most hyped and media followed team, so when a Bird sings (pun intended), it gets blown up by the media.

Actually I couldn't care less that it's Fuglsang being treated this way, but I still think JB made a very bad judgement in this case (no matter which rider it was).

 

[Kazistuta]

As much as I dislike Bruyneel as a DS, I can't blame him for this when you compare it to the practice of businesses in other professions.

If an employee is publicly disloyal, there are not too many employers I am aware of prepared to stand by and continue to offer them the best opportunities, especially when they could use those opportunities to the advantage of a competitor in the future.

Recent examples of either action:

Hushovd, left out of Garmins vuelta squad last year

Schleck x2, selected for Saxo Banks vuelta squad last year
Nibali, still getting selected for WT races for Liquigas
Gilbert, announcing BMC contract in august, racing Lombardy (and the Canadian WT races) nonetheless.

And the list goes on.........

 

[Sophistic]

then why are they not releasing him from his contract?makes more sense for both sides...

 

[Mellow Velo]

It makes sense to punish riders that are disloyal, like Fuglsang, imo. He looked weak in Suisse so he didn't get a Tour spot, that's all there's to it. RNST might be in trouble, but they definately have better Tour GC options than a weak/out-of-form Fuglsang. I'm sure he felt "robbed" after not going to the Giro because of injuries and not going to the Tour, but normally riders are supposed not to comment on it in the press.

As much as I dislike Bruyneel as a DS, I can't blame him for this when you compare it to the practice of businesses in other professions.

If an employee is publicly disloyal, there are not too many employers I am aware of prepared to stand by and continue to offer them the best opportunities, especially when they could use those opportunities to the advantage of a competitor in the future.

Some folks around here seem to have short memories.
Erm, Chris Horner ring a bell?
He spoke out, quite bitterly about his non-Tour selection.
Did he get the same message? No, he got Fuglsang's Tour slot.
No consistency whatsoever.

Of course, while he was being very disloyal then, he more than repaired the damage, with a load of old guff about Armstrong being "clean".
I guess that shows what Bruyneel's priorities are.
Certainly not the Tour or WT races.

 

[Benotti69]

it will be a positive in his career that he can look back on that he was not loyal to Bruyneel.

 

[Ferminal]

JV was getting a bit lonely.

 

[happychappy]

Pathetic. Cycling continues it's odd "addiction" to "feelings" and petty little tit-for-tat games.

 

[Dutchsmurf]

It is a sound business decision and to be honest I think more teams should think that way. You have to play by the rules and the rules dictate that points scored by a rider that is leaving your team are completely useless to you. So if your team is on the edge when it comes to points, it is only logical to let someone who is actually staying with you ride instead. Even when that someone has a lower chance of winning/finishing top 10.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Some folks around here seem to have short memories.
Erm, Chris Horner ring a bell?
He spoke out, quite bitterly about his non-Tour selection.
Did he get the same message? No, he got Fuglsang's Tour slot.
No consistency whatsoever.

Of course, while he was being very disloyal then, he more than repaired the damage, with a load of old guff about Armstrong being "clean".
I guess that shows what Bruyneel's priorities are.
Certainly not the Tour or WT races.

Spot on.




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[maltiv]

What an absolute joke Bruyneel is. Hopefully this makes UCI realize how stupid their rules are though...

 

[HL2037]

So instead of picking out the best riders who are most likely to make some results for the team and give sponsors value for money - Bruyneel uses his position to take revenge on Fuglsang in his own little personal vendetta. How can you screw people over like JB did Fuglsang about the Giro leadership and then expect them to be loyal and not speak up?

I know that some belive that there is no such thing as bad publicity, but this is not the kind of feel-bad image that any sponsor needs.

As others have pointed out it is strange that Bruyneel even has this kind of influence in the team still. He was given some of the best riders in the world and one of the biggest budgets in cycling and he managed to completely **** it all up with his lack of ethics and people skills. On top of this he is currently being accused by the USADA of being a perpetrator in of one of the biggest sporting frauds in recent history.

And now his biggest worry is that riders will take WT-points with them when they leave the team? As if JB/RSNT are going to have any use for those points in 2013 anyway

 

[Ferminal]

It is a sound business decision and to be honest I think more teams should think that way. You have to play by the rules and the rules dictate that points scored by a rider that is leaving your team are completely useless to you. So if your team is on the edge when it comes to points, it is only logical to let someone who is actually staying with you ride instead. Even when that someone has a lower chance of winning/finishing top 10.

Getting 6 months less from a contract is sound?

Radioshack are in no danger of missing out on the top15 come license assessment time.

 

[TheEnoculator]

Fuglsang is a good rider, but he's got a big mouth. One doesn't criticize their employer openly like that, that's asking for trouble. He's learned it the hard way now.

 

[Yingge]

Yes, its a bit harsh, but the golden rule is "Don't bite the hand that feeds you". Many things get said in the heat of the moment, some are forgotten, some are not, this one falling into the latter category.

A Contract is a Contract, abide by it until it expires, or until you get released from it. Neither has yet happened, so he should have bitten his tongue. Too late to grovel now, the laundry is out in the open.

 

[HL2037]

the golden rule is "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

Bruyneel is the one who is biting the hand that feeds him, dragging the sponsors' names through the mud like this. I don't think they are paying him for linking them with omerta.

 

[Morbius]

Haven't the Schlecks made similar noises about a German team? Will they be similarly punished?

 

[Fidolix]

JB is a xxxbag and a bully, simple as that, I bet Fuglsang havent been giving any kind of explaination of why he was not selected for the tour, all the bla bla about he didn¨t deliver in TDS is a bunch of BS, he won the tour of Luxembourg, the Danish TT and not supposed to peak untill the tour, which Im sure he would, not saying any of the other riders that got selected shouldn¨t be there, but to say its becourse Fuglsang is out of form is a laugh.

Fuglsang always had a big mouth, but considering the BS that goes on in the team what else can you expect, Gerdeman and Horner both been speaking to the press about their disappoint of not being selected, but not a word about that, what about Frandys and JB quarrels through the press when he abandon the giro? Not a word about that either, but now its a problem with JF course the xxxbag knows he gonna change team.

 

[LouieLouie]

Yes, its a bit harsh, but the golden rule is "Don't bite the hand that feeds you".

Sure, but it's Fuglsang and the other riders who feed Bruyneel by giving sponsors exposure.

 

[Fidolix]

Haven't the Schlecks made similar noises about a German team? Will they be similarly punished?

No ofc not, the pr ick needs them.

 

[Cimber]

UCI comments on the Fuglsang case: "The system works"

http://translate.google.com/transla....dk/cykling/uci-om-fuglsang-systemet-fungerer