Garmin cannondale

[NattyTerp]

Cannondale-Garmin Pro Cycling 2015
Janier Acevedo
Jack Bauer
Alberto Bettiol
Nathan Brown
André Cardoso
Tom Danielson
Joe Dombrowski
Davide Formolo
Nathan Haas
Lasse Hansen
Ryder Hesjedal
Alex Howes
Ben King
Ted King
Kristjian Koren
Sebastian Langeveld
Alan Marangoni
Dan Martin
Matej Mohoric
Moreno Moser
Ramunas Navardauskas
Kristoffer Skjerping
Tom Jelte Slagter
Andrew Talansky
Dylan Van Baarle
Davide Villella
Ruben Zepuntke


Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...nveils-2015-roster_352960#Xs6uftdb0Vf5prUJ.99

 

[Pippo_San]

Looking as good as it gets. No superstar rider, lots of great riders. Should be an awesome team for the Classics.
Curious about the new team kit!

 

[Angliru]

Their Boulder, Colorado training camp may be a tough one, next week, with snow in the forecast and temps not even getting above freezing for a few days.

Flagstaff has been closed for most of the day except weekends and the summit destinations will be even colder.

Flagstaff was the first mountain that I'd ever climbed. A friend was getting married in the amphitheater on Flagstaff and I traveled there from Michigan via bus (worst travel experience of my life, kind of John Candy/Steve Martin "Planes, Trains & Automobiles" bad ), rented a mountain bike and rode up to the amphitheater.

 

[Gloin22]

Looking as good as it gets. No superstar rider, lots of great riders. Should be an awesome team for the Classics.
Curious about the new team kit!

2 monument winner in 2 years is preety big name

Aside him, yes no clear start but a very cool team.

 

[JRanton]

Stacked team for the hilly classics. Could field two teams.

 

[filipo]

yep, cabin comes with build in ventilation and exhaust system in every room.

Getting meat on the table is part of the exercise.

I hope those hick morons choke to death. Slowly.

 

[Anderis]

Zepuntke is a bit of a surprise to me.

I preferred the 2014 roster. Guys like Ted King or Marangoni will not add much strength to the team, and there are too many too young guys apart from them. Of course, there's some logic in bringing in young riders, especially if you don't have a huge budget, but this one has got a bit too far IMO.

I look forward to see a new team-kit. Happy to know the full roster and team name now.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Looks like a solid team in certain terrain.

Perhaps one or two of the youngsters will surprise.

Looking forward to the action.

 

[greenedge]

As long as Dombrowski steps up (Maybe rides a GT and win in America- I know he has had problems beforehand ofc) a level and Talansky can record a top 5 GT finish, Martin and he other riders are capable of winning big and small races, so their year should be succesful.

 

[Anderis]

I've realised Zepuntke is a real all-rounder. I wonder in which way will he develop, because he has shown some promise in sprinting, climbing, cobbles and TT and surely he can't do all of these at a WT level.

Looking at where the strengths of this team are, he should rather target flat races, but you never know.

 

[The GCW]

Both good bikes so what will the differences be?

Initially, I don't believe the bikes make that much difference although half-a-that-much-difference can win or lose races.
But I'm wondering how much and what kinds of difference may come from Cervelo to Cannondale bikes?

 

[Michele]

The paycheck might be different.
And that make a huge difference in a team.

 

[Anderis]

I'm really curious to see who will they send to the Grand Tours. Will it be both Talansky and Martin for the Tour?

Formolo and Hesjedal were both supposed to do the Giro. Will Hesjedal do the Tour or Vuelta later?

What about Danielson, Cardoso, Acevedo and Slagter?

 

[trevim]

I'm really curious to see who will they send to the Grand Tours. Will it be both Talansky and Martin for the Tour?

Formolo and Hesjedal were both supposed to do the Giro. Will Hesjedal do the Tour or Vuelta later?

What about Danielson, Cardoso, Acevedo and Slagter?

I hope Cardoso gets to ride the Tour: this route suits him perfectly and he was one of the best mountain domestiques last season. If he's in good shape again this year I hope Vaughters gives him a spot; he's not getting younger so time is starting to run out in terms of riding the Tour.

 

[Afrank]

Initially, I don't believe the bikes make that much difference although half-a-that-much-difference can win or lose races.
But I'm wondering how much and what kinds of difference may come from Cervelo to Cannondale bikes?

I doubt any difference at all. Bikes make a difference in amateur racing where one guys on a 5000 dollar carbon bike and the other guys on a old steel bike from the 80's they pulled out of their basement.

But at this level everyone has a top of the line bike.

 

[trevim]

I doubt any difference at all. Bikes make a difference in amateur racing where one guys on a 5000 dollar carbon bike and the other guys on a old steel bike from the 80's they pulled out of their basement.

But at this level everyone has a top of the line bike.

There was some problem with Bianchi TT bikes last season but I reckon the differences are minimal

 

[filipo]

There was some problem with Bianchi TT bikes last season but I reckon the differences are minimal

The problem wasn't really with the bikes, but that the riders hadnt trained on them (ie brand new bikes of a brand new design) for more than an hour before the most important TT of the year.

Wasn't there a lot of grumbling from Pippo and others (?) the year Katusha was on Focus? I remember some quotes that we're pretty explicit about the distaste for the bikes. So I'd guess at least a few pros think the bikes do make a difference, even at that level.

 

[Afrank]

The problem wasn't really with the bikes, but that the riders hadnt trained on them (ie brand new bikes of a brand new design) for more than an hour before the most important TT of the year.

Wasn't there a lot of grumbling from Pippo and others (?) the year Katusha was on Focus? I remember some quotes that we're pretty explicit about the distaste for the bikes. So I'd guess at least a few pros think the bikes do make a difference, even at that level.

There's always some bikes that a rider will prefer to another. One of the reasons riders will opt to have a problem fixed on the bike their currently riding (their race bike) as opposed to just grabbing a spare.

But most of the time I'd say the differences between one top of the line bike and one of another brand are very marginal. Stick the best rider on most any top of the line bike and he could probably still win.

Then again, Sky win GT's on "marginal."

 

[The GCW]

Roberto Amadio

What is Roberto Amadio doing?

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Is it true that Cannondale Garmin will have nine neo pros? Is that some kind of record?

 

[Anderis]

Bettiol, Brown, Formolo, Mohoric, Norman Hansen, Van Baarle, Villella, Skjerping, Zepuntke. Yeah, that makes it 9 if we count 2nd year of neo-pro contract as neo-pro.

I have no idea what the record is, though.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Is it true that Cannondale Garmin will have nine neo pros? Is that some kind of record?

What it makes is a very low rider salary budget. You also have to wonder how many are paying to ride.

We know the UCI and ASO have a say in what riders are in the WT, so maybe the decision was JV's squad was "development" while a couple of others host 'winners.'

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

What it makes is a very low rider salary budget. You also have to wonder how many are paying to ride.

We know the UCI and ASO have a say in what riders are in the WT, so maybe the decision was JV's squad was "development" while a couple of others host 'winners.'

Your first point is a very good one.

Garmin for years were a relatively "egalitarian" team - lots of good riders but no stars. And nobody on big team leader money but lots on pretty decent money. As the initial core headed towards retirement, they were probably stuck paying a lot of guys a bit more than their market value, but nothing crazy because they didn't have the budget to go crazy. Now that those guys are gone, they seem to have restructured quite drastically - much younger, more focused on climbers/puncheurs, and cheaper at least for the support riders.

I wonder though if the wage budget is down or if it's just less evenly distributed? They probably have to pay Martin, Talansky and post Giro Hesjedal more than they used to pay their "leaders" (in so far as they had clear leaders). It's hard to keep a guy who won a monument in each if the last two years (and should have won a third) if you are only offering money domestiques get on other teams, even if you've always had him. If you have actual leaders, you have to pay actual leaders.

You've gone down the rabbit hole a bit on your second point though. The UCI or the ASO may (do) lean on teams to keep certain "undesirables" out, but they have no need to get involved in managing teams in the way you are suggesting. Budget and tactical decisions stemming from a desire to do well with different budget levels can account for the general focus of different teams without men in hoods sitting around a table in Switzerland having to pull the strings. If JV thinks he can fill his roster with kids who can do a job on neopro money, he doesn't need the UCI or ASO to instruct him to do it.

 

[DirtyWorks]

You've gone down the rabbit hole a bit on your second point though. The UCI or the ASO may (do) lean on teams to keep certain "undesirables" out, but they have no need to get involved in managing teams in the way you are suggesting.

The JV thread in the clinic has a post from JV admitting both the UCI and ASO are directly involved in his hires. I really don't have a clue how much they are involved, so I could be too broad. Conversely, unless you work for the UCI/WT Team in this area, then you don't really know either. I totally agree with not knowing either way!

I keep forgetting about Dan Martin. He absolutely needs a couple of podium contenders to soften up his rivals the final selection.

 

[Ad Rock]

Initially, I don't believe the bikes make that much difference although half-a-that-much-difference can win or lose races.
But I'm wondering how much and what kinds of difference may come from Cervelo to Cannondale bikes?

You make it sound as though Cervelo and Cannondale bikes are night and day apart.... I would argue that they're pretty darn similar....the SuperSix Evo High-Mod isn't that different than the R5s (or even R5ca) that most of the Garmin-Sharp guys were used to riding... I doubt the team would notice much of a difference between the P5 and the Slice RS as well.... so long as the team isn't forced to ride the new Non-RS Slice which looks far less impressive.