General News Thread

[auscyclefan94]

I believe so yes. They simply pass them lol.

an example??

 

[Publicus]

Astana and RS for the Tour of Picardie:

Astana: David de la Fuente, Allan and Scott Davis, Valery Dmitriev, Benjamin Noval, Yevgeniy Nepomniadhshiy, Bolat Raimbekov, and Mirko Selvaggi.

RadioShack: Fumiyuki Beppu, Sam Bewley, Daryl Impey, Gregory Rast, Sébastien Rosseler, Bjørn Selander, Gert Steegmans and Tomas Vaitkus.

RS could of sent this squad to the Giro, plus one more rider IMO.

Yep. Andreas Kloden.

 

[jaylew]

Yep. Andreas Kloden.

Good call. They wouldn't have been accused of sending a second rate team, we would have had one more podium contender, and the forums wouldn't have become a war-zone as JB would have likely gone to Cali with LA and LL(without those three we'd probably only mention RS in reference to their actual performance on the roads instead of all the other BS).

Of course, that would actually require Kloden to be a leader

 

[dolophonic]

Where has Andreas been? Has he been racing much?

 

[craig1985]

Oscar Sevilla signs with Colombian team Pinturas Bler-Nectar de Cundinamarca.

 

[trompe le monde]

Michael Matthews won the opening ITT of the 14th Tour of Japan

 

[joy118118]

Michael Matthews won the opening ITT of the 14th Tour of Japan

He has some good results this year. good at both TT and one-day races. Another Cance? Guess which team will he sign with next year?

 

[theyoungest]

He has some good results this year. good at both TT and one-day races. Another Cance? Guess which team will he sign with next year?

Well, not the new Cance apparently, because he got owned in the actuall TT (he won the prologue). He lost 2'39" in 11.4 km.

 

[The Sheep]

BMC close to signing Van Avermaet for next year according to Sporza

 

[Bala Verde]

UCI is said to change the rules of the Pro Tour

Eén van de belangrijkste veranderingen is dat alle wedstrijden mee zullen tellen voor het klassement. Voorheen was het zo dat alleen een selectie van grote wedstrijden meetelde, maar nu zijn er dus in alle wedstrijden punten te verdienen. Uiteraard zal er wel verschil zijn in de te behalen punten tussen grote en kleine koersen. De nieuwe ranking zal dus in grote lijnen gaan lijken op die van de website CQRanking.

Lit Transl: On of the most important changes will be that all races will count towards the GC. Previously, only a selection of the biggest races would be counted. Now however riders can gain points in all races. The difference is the amounts of points awarded for big v small races. The new ranking system appears to reflect the ranking system used at the CQranking website.

Daarnaast gaat de UCI meer waarde hechten aan de sportieve prestaties van de ProTour-ploegen, en dus minder aan bijvoorbeeld het financiële aspect. Het is namelijk de bedoeling dat de beste zestien ploegen uit de ranking automatisch startrecht zullen krijgen in de grote wedstrijden het jaar daarop.

Lit Transl: Furthermore, the UCI will value the athletic/sporting results over financial aspects. The objective is to automatically enroll the best 16 teams in the major races, the year after.

Other changes include:
-no more 4 year pro tour license terms, to guarantee the strength of teams (ie a pro-tour team in year 4 might have debilitated over time, but still maintain the same status)
-Pro Conti teams will start a season with 18 points. Every time they participate in a pro tour event, they will subtract 1 point. The reason given is that team like Cervelo can participate in almost all Pro-Tour races, while not meeting the full criteria.
-UCI will take 'off seasons' of riders into account for rankings by counting points for 2 yearsm instead of only the last year. This to protect riders' rankings against injuries.

 

[karlboss]

UCI is said to change the rules of the Pro Tour



Lit Transl: On of the most important changes will be that all races will count towards the GC. Previously, only a selection of the biggest races would be counted. Now however riders can gain points in all races. The difference is the amounts of points awarded for big v small races. The new ranking system appears to reflect the ranking system used at the CQranking website.

Good.

Lit Transl: Furthermore, the UCI will value the athletic/sporting results over financial aspects. The objective is to automatically enroll the best 16 teams in the major races, the year after.

Money buys riders/results hence the 2 should coincide.

Other changes include:
-no more 4 year pro tour license terms, to guarantee the strength of teams (ie a pro-tour team in year 4 might have debilitated over time, but still maintain the same status)
-Pro Conti teams will start a season with 18 points. Every time they participate in a pro tour event, they will subtract 1 point. The reason given is that team like Cervelo can participate in almost all Pro-Tour races, while not meeting the full criteria.
-UCI will take 'off seasons' of riders into account for rankings by counting points for 2 yearsm instead of only the last year. This to protect riders' rankings against injuries.

Point 1, good
2. If a proconti team is good enough, I have no problem with them riding all the big races at the expense of others, even protour teams. The fact that cervelo has been successful indicates a failure of the protour, not that there should be an attempt to limit the success of cervelo.
3. Fair enough

 

[The Sheep]

9 POINTS : Tour De France
6 POINTS: Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico, Milan-San Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Amstel Gold Race and Liege-Bastogne-Liege, Giro, Dauphine, Tour de Suisse and Tour Spain

3 POINTS: Volta a Catalunya, Ghent-Wevelgem, Tour of the Basque Country, Fleche Wallonne, Tour of Romandie, San Sebastian, Lombardy, Tour Down Under, Poland, Classic Vattenfall, Eneco Tour, Ouest-France, Quebec and Montreal

Pro-Continental teams have only 18 points to use for these races

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Can the ProConti teams go into debt and just sacrifice some points? Otherwise this is basically coercing teams like Cervélo and BMC to go ProTour, and then there's only so many slots that ProTour teams can fill. Unless they plan to forcibly evict smaller teams or teams not wanting to re-up... but then they don't have the chance to enter the biggest events as wildcards. 24 points would be much fairer.

Also what does this mean for ProTour teams with a potentially uncertain future. Say Caisse get a new sponsor but it's too late for ProTour registration. Does that mean they can't race more than, say, Basque Country, Catalunya, the Vuelta and LBL? That's all they can do?

I don't like that idea. I guess Cervélo will get their ProTour slot if they go for one, and another team will either be sacrificed to make room, or the rosters for races just got even more inflexible.

The ProTour was a bad idea, badly executed and badly worked out. If the ProConti teams can only do x amount of racing, how do they get to the next level when they're not allowed to race more than about 4 events with the big guys?

Also, what happens if Cervélo are in the top 17 ranking for 2010, which means they get automatic invite to the 2011 Tour? Does this cost them 9 of their 18 points, or can they take 18 points from other races since their invite was automatic?

 

[craig1985]

Actually I think the idea of the ProTour is a good one, but just badly executed.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Olympia's tour final stage (TT, 9.6km)

Royal Smilde Olympia's Tour (2.2)
Etappe 7: Hoofddorp - Hoofddorp (9,5 km)
1. Taylor Phinney (Verenigde Staten/Trek - Livestrong) 11m26s
2. Rohan Dennis (Australië/Team Jayco Skins) +9s
3. Michael Hepburn (Australië/Team Jayco Skins) +15s
4. Jesse Sergent (Nieuw-Zeeland/Trek - Livestrong) +19s
5. Luke Durbridge (Australië/Team Jayco Skins) +21s
6. Peter Koning (Nederland/Line Lloyd Footwear Cycling Team) +22s
7. Tom Dumoulin (Nederland/Parkhotel Rooding Cycling Team) +27s-
8. Thimothy Roe (Australië/Trek - Livestrong) +29s
9. Andrei Krasilnikau (Wit-Rusland/Team Holowesko Partners) +31s
10. Coen Vermeltfoort (Nederland/Rabobank CT) +32s

Eindklassement
1. Taylor Phinney (Verenigde Staten/Trek - Livestrong) 18u26m42s
2. Coen Vermeltfoort (Nederland/Rabobank CT) +1m17s
3. Jesse Sergent (Verenigde Staten/Trek - Livestrong) +1m27s
4. Rohan Dennis (Australië/Team Jayco Skins) +1m46s
5. Martijn Keizer (Nederland/Rabobank CT) +1m57s
6. Thimothy Roe (Australië/Trek - Livestrong) +2m03s
7. Sander Oostlander (Nederland/Van Vliet - EBH Elshof) +2m09s
8. Sebastian Balck (Zweden/Team CykelCity.se) +2m11s
9. Thomas Berkhout (Nederland/Van Vliet - EBH Elshof) +2m15s
10. Bram Schmitz (Nederland/Van Vliet - EBH Elshof) +2m24s

Australians and 1 American dominating the TT.

 

[Francois the Postman]

UCI is said to change the rules of the Pro Tour



Lit Transl: On of the most important changes will be that all races will count towards the GC. Previously, only a selection of the biggest races would be counted. Now however riders can gain points in all races. The difference is the amounts of points awarded for big v small races. The new ranking system appears to reflect the ranking system used at the CQranking website.



Lit Transl: Furthermore, the UCI will value the athletic/sporting results over financial aspects. The objective is to automatically enroll the best 16 teams in the major races, the year after.

Other changes include:
-no more 4 year pro tour license terms, to guarantee the strength of teams (ie a pro-tour team in year 4 might have debilitated over time, but still maintain the same status)
-Pro Conti teams will start a season with 18 points. Every time they participate in a pro tour event, they will subtract 1 point. The reason given is that team like Cervelo can participate in almost all Pro-Tour races, while not meeting the full criteria.
-UCI will take 'off seasons' of riders into account for rankings by counting points for 2 yearsm instead of only the last year. This to protect riders' rankings against injuries.

Wow, that's some change. Maybe not so much "other news" but worthy of a thread of its own? Just happend to drop in and this is quite something.

 

[trompe le monde]

Haussler in car accident. Unharmed, though his blood alcohol level was over the legal limit. He is really not having a good season.

 

[RedheadDane]

I actually laughed a bit at that... tsk... not smart...

 

[ak-zaaf]

Haussler in car accident. Unharmed, though his blood alcohol level was over the legal limit. He is really not having a good season.

 

[craig1985]

Oscar Freire and Denis Menchov will race the Tour of Belgium.

 

[tgsgirl]

Oscar Freire and Denis Menchov will race the Tour of Belgium.

A triple world champ and triple GT winner? I think that makes Tour of Belgium the second best race in the world!

 

[craig1985]

Don't tell Bob Stapleton that.

 

[issoisso]

Tour de Suisse teams announced.

A short time ago the organizers announced the preliminary selection consisted of the 18 ProTour teams plus Cervélo and BMC.

The final selection consists of these teams plus Vacansoleil

 

[dolophonic]

FDB Ras crazy as usual.

 

[craig1985]

I hope Francesco de Bonis and Toni Colom enjoy their two year vacations. And victory for UCI Biological Passport.