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AD.nl and HLN.be say Demoitie died. It would be terribly wrong if that information was wrong.... so I assume he has passed away.

Very tragic and another moto incident. Something MUST happen... we've been saying that for a while now and now the first person actually died because of it.
Allthough the nature of the incident is different then the ones we are used too. He apparently got hit by a motor after he crashed together with 4 others.
 
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Kwibus said:
AD.nl and HLN.be say Demoitie died. It would be terribly wrong if that information was wrong.... so I assume he has passed away.

Very tragic and another moto incident. Something MUST happen... we've been saying that for a while now and now the first person actually died because of it.
Allthough the nature of the incident is different then the ones we are used too. He apparently got hit by a motor after he crashed together with 4 others.

AD uses HLN as source and it wouldn't be the first time that HLN has something wrong. I have a feeling he's in a really deep coma and is not going to wake up, but let's hope i'm totally wrong.
 
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Kwibus said:
AD.nl and HLN.be say Demoitie died. It would be terribly wrong if that information was wrong.... so I assume he has passed away.

Very tragic and another moto incident. Something MUST happen... we've been saying that for a while now and now the first person actually died because of it.
Allthough the nature of the incident is different then the ones we are used too. He apparently got hit by a motor after he crashed together with 4 others.
Those websites are related though, if one of them has an article the other copies it.

The team just sent out another update that he is still in ICU and in very serious condition.
 
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Kwibus said:
AD.nl and HLN.be say Demoitie died. It would be terribly wrong if that information was wrong.... so I assume he has passed away.

Very tragic and another moto incident. Something MUST happen... we've been saying that for a while now and now the first person actually died because of it.
Allthough the nature of the incident is different then the ones we are used too. He apparently got hit by a motor after he crashed together with 4 others.

Very very sad news. His team tweeted a new statement. He is still alive.


Speaking of the accident, true that he was hit by a motorbike, but the circumstances seem to be different than what we have seen in recent episodes involving motorbikes. It seems that he crashed and while he was getting up the motorbike hit him. I think this time it's just an unlucky destiny, and not a careless motorider.

I guess we'll know more in the coming hours.
 
LaFlorecita said:
The team just sent out another update that he is still in ICU and in very serious condition.

Yup. Eight minutes ago from @TeamWantyGobert:

As this day ends we have no more info for you than we previously communicated.

Antoine is in ICU and the situation is still very serious.
 
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trevim said:
JRanton said:
trevim said:
Just looked at the results, is Quickstep really that weak?

What do you mean? They're really strong but just don't quite have a guy who can follow the very best. Trentin and Stybar just missed Kwiatkowski and Sagan's move on Friday and Stybar again today just missed the Sagan, Cancellara and Vanmarcke move.
I didn't watch the race but I would expect Quickstep to place more than 1 rider in the top 10 of any flandrien race, specially when you look at Boonen, Stybar, Terpstra and Vandenbergh on the start list. Hats off to Gaviria though, monster talent.

What's bad for Etixx today in terms of De Ronde but good in terms of the future is the fact that this wasn't the 94th installment in Etixx-Quick Step's tactical horror show, but proof that their riders aren't currently good enough. Boonen getting dropped with 100km to go, Maes wasting himself dragging him back but falling agonisingly short, Trentin's failure to make a real gap, Vandenbergh's forlorn attack, Stybar's lack of contact with the Sagan-Cancellara-Vanmarcke group, Terpstra's inability to drag the leaders back. Those descriptions aren't entirely fair (Trentin's only real co-worker was Benoot and they had 55km to go, Rowe and van Avermaet have equal responsibiity with Stybar) but it's clear that there's a major problem. If Stybar had got in the front group, for instance, we'd be discussing a very different race, but he's simply not strong enough. This problem was visible on Friday, when Boonen and Trentin (EQS' strongest two finishers) were left taking some pretty huge turns on the front. Who are their leaders going to be? If they're bluffing, it's one hell of a bluff (especially given Terpstra's win in Le Samyn showed he has some class.) If they're leaving Boonen and Trentin on the front, they must have no hope in them at all, and they've shown nothing to alter that view; Stybar's well off form, Vandenbergh's a liability more than anything else given Pantani's corpse would beat him in a two-up sprint, and Terpstra's...not really a potential Ronde winner. EQS is like a racehorse that's unseated its rider and still goes charging along the course. It does bode well for the future, though; once Gaviria's more experienced, he seems the perfect fit for finishing off the race, especially if they get some fresh blood in to rejuvenate the squad. EQS were working for a leader who doesn't exist, but Gaviria should really grow into the role and take some results. Given their tactical ineptitude, I think EQS' only chance of winning a monument is to forgo the chess playing of attacks and breakaways, and rely on brute strength to build a sprint train (and perhaps add in the refinement of a Devolderesque joker, once the sprinter gets intimidating enough). Still, I don't think the novelty of a Colombian track specialist winning cobbled classics would be enough to distract the Belgian press from Lefevre's failure to create a new Boonen.

God, I hope the Demoitie story 's not true. It's unbearable to even think about; every sympathy to his family, friends, etc.
 
May 5, 2010
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Until Wanty themselves make an update to the contrary I'm going to believe Demoitie is alive. He just have to be.
 
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RedheadDane said:
Until Wanty themselves make an update to the contrary I'm going to believe Demoitie is alive. He just has/i] to be.


I'm sure he's getting the best medical attention he could, so that's something, I guess.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Kwibus said:
AD.nl and HLN.be say Demoitie died. It would be terribly wrong if that information was wrong.... so I assume he has passed away.

Very tragic and another moto incident. Something MUST happen... we've been saying that for a while now and now the first person actually died because of it.
Allthough the nature of the incident is different then the ones we are used too. He apparently got hit by a motor after he crashed together with 4 others.
Those websites are related though, if one of them has an article the other copies it.

The team just sent out another update that he is still in ICU and in very serious condition.

Such a disgrace by those "news" sites. Disgusting.
 
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Very sorry to hear about Demoitie and not surprised about journalists getting things wrong. Glad to see Sagan win one albeit with such bad news about one of his fellow competitors.
 
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Cannibal72 said:
trevim said:
JRanton said:
trevim said:
Just looked at the results, is Quickstep really that weak?

What do you mean? They're really strong but just don't quite have a guy who can follow the very best. Trentin and Stybar just missed Kwiatkowski and Sagan's move on Friday and Stybar again today just missed the Sagan, Cancellara and Vanmarcke move.
I didn't watch the race but I would expect Quickstep to place more than 1 rider in the top 10 of any flandrien race, specially when you look at Boonen, Stybar, Terpstra and Vandenbergh on the start list. Hats off to Gaviria though, monster talent.

What's bad for Etixx today in terms of De Ronde but good in terms of the future is the fact that this wasn't the 94th installment in Etixx-Quick Step's tactical horror show, but proof that their riders aren't currently good enough. Boonen getting dropped with 100km to go, Maes wasting himself dragging him back but falling agonisingly short, Trentin's failure to make a real gap, Vandenbergh's forlorn attack, Stybar's lack of contact with the Sagan-Cancellara-Vanmarcke group, Terpstra's inability to drag the leaders back. Those descriptions aren't entirely fair (Trentin's only real co-worker was Benoot and they had 55km to go, Rowe and van Avermaet have equal responsibiity with Stybar) but it's clear that there's a major problem. If Stybar had got in the front group, for instance, we'd be discussing a very different race, but he's simply not strong enough. This problem was visible on Friday, when Boonen and Trentin (EQS' strongest two finishers) were left taking some pretty huge turns on the front. Who are their leaders going to be? If they're bluffing, it's one hell of a bluff (especially given Terpstra's win in Le Samyn showed he has some class.) If they're leaving Boonen and Trentin on the front, they must have no hope in them at all, and they've shown nothing to alter that view; Stybar's well off form, Vandenbergh's a liability more than anything else given Pantani's corpse would beat him in a two-up sprint, and Terpstra's...not really a potential Ronde winner. EQS is like a racehorse that's unseated its rider and still goes charging along the course. It does bode well for the future, though; once Gaviria's more experienced, he seems the perfect fit for finishing off the race, especially if they get some fresh blood in to rejuvenate the squad. EQS were working for a leader who doesn't exist, but Gaviria should really grow into the role and take some results. Given their tactical ineptitude, I think EQS' only chance of winning a monument is to forgo the chess playing of attacks and breakaways, and rely on brute strength to build a sprint train (and perhaps add in the refinement of a Devolderesque joker, once the sprinter gets intimidating enough). Still, I don't think the novelty of a Colombian track specialist winning cobbled classics would be enough to distract the Belgian press from Lefevre's failure to create a new Boonen.

God, I hope the Demoitie story 's not true. It's unbearable to even think about; every sympathy to his family, friends, etc.
Yep their only option for the Ronde seems to be lots of luck, Boonen looking somehow like a sprinting option to keep the other teams from working and Terpstra/Stybar find their legs. I would love to see Trentin do well but I think he'll be lost in the middle of the team.
 
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Boonen getting dropped at 100k was because he was literally taking a piss. I don't expect him in RvV finale, but he'll be there in Roubaix
 
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Buffalo Soldier said:
Boonen getting dropped at 100k was because he was literally taking a piss. I don't expect him in RvV finale, but he'll be there in Roubaix
He might be there for Roubaix, specially if there's headwind like last year.
 
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Given the number of motor-involved bike crashes in races the past few years, this result was essentially inevitable. Riders can go down at any moment: a motorbike should never run over a rider. This isn't about cycling being dangerous: of course cycling is dangerous. Any speed event is dangerous. This is about the motor vehicles mixing with the cyclists. We've seen again and again and again that's a risk, and yet there was no indication that an attempt has been made to minimize the number of motor bikes involved in this race.

When will the UCI deliver a real response?
 
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Volderke said:
Buffalo Soldier said:
Sep was absolutely impressive today. After that effort bringing back the second echelon, I was convinced he was cooked. But then he attacked on that hill, managed to follow the two monsters and sprinted very well at the end.
He will be very close next week.

I agree. I should have known that some keyboard warriors think differently, but Vanmarcke did his very very best today and I know he will always ride if he has anything left. He only started 'sandbagging' in the last 2K, and he missed like 2-3 turns after Kemmel, because Sagan and Cancellara were monstrous in their ride up the Kemmel, and Vanmarcke already had to dig deep earlier in the race + he attacked on Baneberg.

For me it was all the same if Sagan, Cancellara or Vanmarcke won, they all deserved it, but maybe Sagan the most. Sagan / Cancellara are a step above the rest. Maybe Vanmarcke and Van Avermaet can be in the mix, but I don't see any of the Quickstep riders on this level (yet).

For the Ronde I think so too, but for P-R I expect Terpstra to be up there.
 
May 5, 2010
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When I saw that moto on the ground I actually thought that at least there was no riders involved this time, and then I found it weird that they seemed to be in such a hurry to lift it away.
Never in my worst nightmares did I imagine... :(
 
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RedheadDane said:
When I saw that moto on the ground I actually thought that at least there was no riders involved this time, and then I found it weird that they seemed to be in such a hurry to lift it away.
Never in my worst nightmares did I imagine... :(

The moto you refer to (on the top of the Kemmel, in the sharp bend going down) was a different moto than the one hitting Antoine Demoitié.
The moto on top of the Kemmel was in the way of the coming riders, so they were nervous to remove it as quickly as possible. Fortunately, there are no images of the tragic accident with A.D.
 
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I'm reading posts saying Stybar is off-form....
Wait a minute... When has Stybar ever done better then what he is showing this year? (Cobbled races) oh he hasn't...

Only in P-R he has been able to barely hang onto the wheel of the best.
 
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RedheadDane said:
When I saw that moto on the ground I actually thought that at least there was no riders involved this time, and then I found it weird that they seemed to be in such a hurry to lift it away.
Never in my worst nightmares did I imagine... :(

I'm not sure if that was that accident. Wasn't that just before they did the final Kemmel climb?
 
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Volderke said:
RedheadDane said:
When I saw that moto on the ground I actually thought that at least there was no riders involved this time, and then I found it weird that they seemed to be in such a hurry to lift it away.
Never in my worst nightmares did I imagine... :(

The moto you refer to (on the top of the Kemmel, in the sharp bend going down) was a different moto than the one hitting Antoine Demoitié.
The moto on top of the Kemmel was in the way of the coming riders, so they were nervous to remove it as quickly as possible. Fortunately, there are no images of the tragic accident with A.D.

Oh... that's... somewhat of a relief. As much as anything can be a relief now... would've been horrible to think there'd been a rider underneath that moto.

Of course it doesn't change anything; the other incident did happen, and Demotie is dead.

:(
 

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