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Oct 28, 2010
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well, if they'll find a sponsor it would be good, but they'll have to be a pro-conti with more or less the same perspectives (apart form GTs of course) as Caja Rural i guess...
 
May 6, 2009
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nobilis said:
David Blanco is confident that Gianetti and Matxin will find a sponsor. I think he's too optimistic.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geoxs-blanco-blasts-teams-sponsor-backs-mosquera

Also in the interview, he defends his training partner Mosquera and criticises the double standards in dealing with doping cases in cycling. (Is he talking about Contador?)

As much of a **** Gianetti is or isn't, isn't fair on everybody to be told they are not going to have a job for next year. If they have such a problem with Gianetti, why not say something before or straight after the Vuelta?
 
roundabout said:
And that must have been why he was pretty much invisible for the first 3 years of his career.

...or the fact he was riding for teams that were pretty much being blacklisted from many of the bigger events on the calender. He's known to suffer from depression and as a result of these circumstances just maybe he lost motivation to train to get to a peak level of fitness . Just one of many possibilities.:)
 
roundabout said:
Saunier Duval was not blacklisted.

You referenced the time when he wasn't getting results weren't you?
I was talking about Fuji-Servetto/Scott-American Beef and I said "pretty much black-listed" meaning they weren't invited to many events in a similar way that Unibet was excluded.
 
roundabout said:
The first 3 years of Cobo's career are 2004-2006.

And I would make a guess that Fuji-Servetto of 2009 could race many big races.

My bad, I misread your post.:eek: My apologies.

Allow me to more accurately respond to your post regarding his first 3 years as a pro:
Is any consideration given to a rider being brought along slowly in the early parts of their careers? How many of the current riders that have come to find fame were getting major results in the early years of their careers? Or should I say what percentage of them were? I'd be curious to find out. I'll have to check the records of top riders to compare.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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nobilis said:
David Blanco is confident that Gianetti and Matxin will find a sponsor. I think he's too optimistic.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/geoxs-blanco-blasts-teams-sponsor-backs-mosquera

Also in the interview, he defends his training partner Mosquera and criticises the double standards in dealing with doping cases in cycling. (Is he talking about Contador?)

I never heard of this guy Blanco before. I have no idea what he is talking about, was this interview translated by Google, cuz it's complete gobbledygook to me. He seems to be defending dopers with off-the-wall theories :confused:
Cyclingnews - if you're going to publish interviews/statements, please try and achieve more depth of translation.
 
Mar 31, 2010
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Papparrazzi said:
I never heard of this guy Blanco before. I have no idea what he is talking about, was this interview translated by Google, cuz it's complete gobbledygook to me. He seems to be defending dopers with off-the-wall theories :confused:
Cyclingnews - if you're going to publish interviews/statements, please try and achieve more depth of translation.

that says more about you than about him and it is pretty clear what he says. he thinks mosquera is getting screwed and sponsors like geox screweing people out of jobs
 
Oct 18, 2009
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Papparrazzi said:
I never heard of this guy Blanco before. I have no idea what he is talking about, was this interview translated by Google, cuz it's complete gobbledygook to me. He seems to be defending dopers with off-the-wall theories :confused:
Cyclingnews - if you're going to publish interviews/statements, please try and achieve more depth of translation.

I read first in biciciclismo and it said pretty much the same.

Blanco is well known and many of us in this forum were excited when he was signed by Geox last year, to see what he could do in bigger races.
 
Oct 28, 2010
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nobilis said:
I read first in biciciclismo and it said pretty much the same.

Blanco is well known and many of us in this forum were excited when he was signed by Geox last year, to see what he could do in bigger races.

I've always thought he is Portuguese btw and recognized my mistake only when he came to Geox :eek: He should have chosen the team like this (the team that raced beyond the Pyrenees peninsular) well before...
 
It's ironic how an ex-Comunidad Valenciana rider (until 2006), who then spent years in "exile", says that cycling dug its own grave with Operacion Puerto.

But that's for another place.
 
Oct 18, 2009
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Fus087 said:
It's ironic how an ex-Comunidad Valenciana rider (until 2006), who then spent years in "exile", says that cycling dug its own grave with Operacion Puerto.

But that's for another place.

He meant how the different Authorities dealt with it and not the Operation itself.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
that says more about you than about him and it is pretty clear what he says. he thinks mosquera is getting screwed and sponsors like geox screweing people out of jobs

I understood that much, my point is, Blanco article doesn't include any facts.
 
Kvinto said:
I've always thought he is Portuguese btw and recognized my mistake only when he came to Geox :eek: He should have chosen the team like this (the team that raced beyond the Pyrenees peninsular) well before...

He did. But strangely, after Operación Puerto, nobody that raced beyond the Pyrenées really wanted to sign him. It was only last year that the scars of Puerto were sufficiently healed for people like him and Bernabéu to make it back out of Portuguese domestic cycling (possibly after Rubén Plaza somehow managed to make the top 15 of the Tour de France with a suspicion index of 1), and a few of us were quite excited to see what he could manage after he'd been so dominant in Portugual, winning the Volta four times, and the final time with some ease, taking both major mountain stages and finishing 2nd in the long time trial. However, it looks like the transition came a bit too late for the 35-year-old Blanco to be a threat at any significant races, but he did do a pretty good domestique job.
 
Feb 15, 2011
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greenedge said:
I thought that was a vicious attack but necessary. If they do not get the new team sponsorship i wonder who Menchov will go to. Cobo could go anywhere though the contract might be an issue.

These are my best guesses that probably aren't anywhere close.

Menchov -> Katusha

Cobo -> Lotto or Quickstep?

Duarte -> Movistar

De La Fuente -> Movistar, Acqua & Sapone, Farnese Vini?

I just want to see Menchov at Katusha, and Joaquim Rodriguez move to a different team :)
 
Mar 19, 2009
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gustienordic said:
These are my best guesses that probably aren't anywhere close.

Menchov -> Katusha

Cobo -> Lotto or Quickstep?

Duarte -> Movistar

De La Fuente -> Movistar, Acqua & Sapone, Farnese Vini?

I just want to see Menchov at Katusha, and Joaquim Rodriguez move to a different team :)

I think menchov doesn't like katusha... or maybe it was just tchmill and I think he is away to run for some other role now(I forget what). But I don't think menchov will go to katusha
 
Duarte's gone to Coldeportes already.

De la Fuente... maybe Saxo Bank?

As for Cobo, god only knows. Katyusha or Astana might make sense, but he's a difficult guy to motivate, and Quick Step is a death knell for any GC rider's career. Lotto, probably more interested in VDBII. Not Movistar, at the very least...
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Duarte's gone to Coldeportes already.

De la Fuente... maybe Saxo Bank?

As for Cobo, god only knows. Katyusha or Astana might make sense, but he's a difficult guy to motivate, and Quick Step is a death knell for any GC rider's career. Lotto, probably more interested in VDBII. Not Movistar, at the very least...

Don't think Lotto are interested in a Spanish GT rider especially because they don't need his points anyway. And I don't think Cobo wants to ride for VDBII
 
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El Pistolero said:
Don't think Lotto are interested in a Spanish GT rider especially because they don't need his points anyway. And I don't think Cobo wants to ride for VDBII

Who else though? The only team without any GC leader is Greenedge and they wouldn't ever sign him.