For the sake of cycling I hope you are right. 32 best Grand Tour finish 15th. Today drops all the best riders in the world on a multiple mountain stage. Yes completely ludicrous and I can't believe the excuses being written on the CN threads. Is anyone who is not British believing this?DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
I don't think so either. And if he does crack big time as usual, then it certainly will put this performance in perspective. Just like Yates's performances at the Giro look a bit less suspicious knowing how he collapsed in the last week.macbindle said:He won't win.
he got twice 15th GC at the Tour, as a domestique, and crashing (in 2015)DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
Thanks for the info. If they are his best results it just shows what a limited GC rider he has always been at Grand Tours. The amount of dross that has managed at least one top 10 over the years is pretty considerable. Thomas has never even been that good.pastronef said:he got twice 15th GC at the Tour, as a domestique, and crashing (in 2015)DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
Dumo went from no GC performance to 6th in the Vuelta 2015 to no GC performance in 2016 to Giro winner beating Quintana 2017DFA123 said:Thanks for the info. If they are his best results it just shows what a limited GC rider he has always been at Grand Tours. The amount of dross that has managed at least one top 10 over the years is pretty considerable. Thomas has never even been that good.pastronef said:he got twice 15th GC at the Tour, as a domestique, and crashing (in 2015)DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
What's that got to do with Thomas's lack of any decent results as a GT rider?pastronef said:Dumo went from no GC performance to 6th in the Vuelta 2015 to no GC performance in 2016 to Giro winner beating Quintana 2017DFA123 said:Thanks for the info. If they are his best results it just shows what a limited GC rider he has always been at Grand Tours. The amount of dross that has managed at least one top 10 over the years is pretty considerable. Thomas has never even been that good.pastronef said:he got twice 15th GC at the Tour, as a domestique, and crashing (in 2015)DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
He was 24 years old with 2 GT experience in that Vuelta... bit different than coming magically up with the age of 32 with 12 GT's in the pocket, isn't it?pastronef said:Dumo went from no GC performance to 6th in the Vuelta 2015 to no GC performance in 2016 to Giro winner beating Quintana 2017DFA123 said:Thanks for the info. If they are his best results it just shows what a limited GC rider he has always been at Grand Tours. The amount of dross that has managed at least one top 10 over the years is pretty considerable. Thomas has never even been that good.pastronef said:he got twice 15th GC at the Tour, as a domestique, and crashing (in 2015)DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
magically?bambino said:He was 24 years old with 2 GT experience in that Vuelta... bit different than coming magically up with the age of 32 with 12 GT's in the pocket, isn't it?pastronef said:Dumo went from no GC performance to 6th in the Vuelta 2015 to no GC performance in 2016 to Giro winner beating Quintana 2017DFA123 said:Thanks for the info. If they are his best results it just shows what a limited GC rider he has always been at Grand Tours. The amount of dross that has managed at least one top 10 over the years is pretty considerable. Thomas has never even been that good.pastronef said:he got twice 15th GC at the Tour, as a domestique, and crashing (in 2015)DFA123 said:Ridiculous performance today. Hopefully, he's just doing a Yates and peaking too early - and will crack in the Pyrenees. Imagine though if his first top 10 result in a GT is winning the Tour de France aged 32. Absolutely ludicrous.
He was allowed to go for the GC. He was the 'second card' in 2015-16 whose role was to stay high in the standings. Yet he couldn't do it - he tried to limit his losses, but he had to go so deep just to stay within a few minutes that he ended up cracking big time.pastronef said:magically?
after a 2nd in Suisse GC, a Paris-Nice GC, a domestique role that didnt allow him to go for GC?
I'm dropping the dime right now!topcat said:Cycling died a little bit more today. The only way out of this farce is a police raid.
Sky riders are all a 0/10 of course.vedrafjord said:Forget about beating his previous top 15 GT finish, what about his chances of beating his UCI Index of Suspicion 6/10 "overwhelming circumstantial evidence of doping" from the 2010 Tour?
Has been dead for 6 years now. We're watching zombies.topcat said:Cycling died a little bit more today. The only way out of this farce is a police raid.
It was alive and kicking before that?The Hegelian said:Has been dead for 6 years now. We're watching zombies.topcat said:Cycling died a little bit more today. The only way out of this farce is a police raid.
How many riders have managed a GT top 10 but only after 12 or more GTs? The nearest I can find in recent years are:bambino said:He was 24 years old with 2 GT experience in that Vuelta... bit different than coming magically up with the age of 32 with 12 GT's in the pocket, isn't it?
Sort of on life support.buckle said:It was alive and kicking before that?The Hegelian said:Has been dead for 6 years now. We're watching zombies.topcat said:Cycling died a little bit more today. The only way out of this farce is a police raid.