Gesink Discussion Thread

[Ryo Hazuki]

WHat I like about your insults is that they never gets finished off with an explanation about what is wrong with the post. It allways leaves me with a sence of exhileration while waiting for it to come a few posts later.

when exaclty has gesink go0ne out riding like someone trying to win anything? he's the EXACT same rider with same characteristics he had in 2008/2009 except a lot worse in climbing.

 

[Pentacycle]

Gesink's a lot better in time trialling than he was 4 years ago. He's also heavier.

 

[theyoungest]

Gesink's a lot better in time trialling than he was 4 years ago. He's also heavier.

That's more to do with a better aero position. Before he already was a good time trialist, but only on hilly courses, and with a position like a parachute.

 

[Arredondo]

when exaclty has gesink go0ne out riding like someone trying to win anything? he's the EXACT same rider with same characteristics he had in 2008/2009 except a lot worse in climbing.

Amstel Gold Race 2009: Ivanov, Kroon and Gesink fought it out on the Cauberg. Guess who was capable of making the decisive break, after attacking on the Keutenberg?

Vuelta 2009; Gesink was the one who attacked on the Velefique in the Vuelta 2009, almost catched Hesjedal

Vuelta 2009: Gesink did attack on la Pandera, he was the one who started the fight

Dauphine 2009: He attacked like 10 times on the Madeleine, trying to catch lonely surviver Moncoutie

Tour de Suisse 2010: He attacked on the Malbull pass, and did a solo of 20 k(!) before winning solo in La Punt

Montreal 2010: He arrived solo after attacking on the last climb

Conclusion, you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[theyoungest]

Amstel Gold Race 2009: Ivanov, Kroon and Gesink fought it out on the Cauberg. Guess who was capable of making the decisive break, after attacking on the Keutenberg?

Vuelta 2009; Gesink was the one who attacked on the Velefique in the Vuelta 2009, almost catched Hesjedal

Vuelta 2009: Gesink did attack on la Pandera, he was the one who started the fight

Dauphine 2009: He attacked like 10 times on the Madeleine, trying to catch lonely surviver Moncoutie

Tour de Suisse 2010: He attacked on the Malbull pass, and did a solo of 20 k(!) before winning solo in La Punt

Montreal 2010: He arrived solo after attacking on the last climb

Conclusion, you don't know what you're talking about.

Indeed, Ryo has always been a 'hater', so you shouldn't really take him seriously. Gesink is an attacking rider, in essence. He always wants to make the race. It doesn't always work, of course. He's definitely not a wheelsucker, in fact he rides on the front too much.

 

[Arredondo]

Indeed, Ryo has always been a 'hater', so you shouldn't really take him seriously. Gesink is an attacking rider, in essence. He always wants to make the race. It doesn't always work, of course. He's definitely not a wheelsucker, in fact he rides on the front too much.

Difficult not reacting on rubbish

 

[hrotha]

Even when he's not attacking, he's often at the front of the chase group. Although that was more common a few years ago when he appeared to be closer to his prime.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Even when he's not attacking, he's often at the front of the chase group. Although that was more common a few years ago when he appeared to be closer to his prime.

Yes, he used to ride more on the front, mostly 2nd/3rd wheel. You know Gesink is on a good day when he can do that all day.
Nowadays you usually see him dangling somewhere in 20nd position and trying to move up, but not really able to. That's often the bad sign

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Amstel Gold Race 2009: Ivanov, Kroon and Gesink fought it out on the Cauberg. Guess who was capable of making the decisive break, after attacking on the Keutenberg?

Vuelta 2009; Gesink was the one who attacked on the Velefique in the Vuelta 2009, almost catched Hesjedal

Vuelta 2009: Gesink did attack on la Pandera, he was the one who started the fight

Dauphine 2009: He attacked like 10 times on the Madeleine, trying to catch lonely surviver Moncoutie

Tour de Suisse 2010: He attacked on the Malbull pass, and did a solo of 20 k(!) before winning solo in La Punt

Montreal 2010: He arrived solo after attacking on the last climb

Conclusion, you don't know what you're talking about.

you can find 6 examples out of 3 seasons? oh lol. that's exacty my point

 

[Flamin]

Amstel Gold Race 2009: Ivanov, Kroon and Gesink fought it out on the Cauberg. Guess who was capable of making the decisive break, after attacking on the Keutenberg?

Vuelta 2009; Gesink was the one who attacked on the Velefique in the Vuelta 2009, almost catched Hesjedal

Vuelta 2009: Gesink did attack on la Pandera, he was the one who started the fight

Dauphine 2009: He attacked like 10 times on the Madeleine, trying to catch lonely surviver Moncoutie

Tour de Suisse 2010: He attacked on the Malbull pass, and did a solo of 20 k(!) before winning solo in La Punt

Montreal 2010: He arrived solo after attacking on the last climb

Conclusion, you don't know what you're talking about.

Speaking of Dauphiné 2009, also the Mont Ventoux MTF comes to mind where he raced super agressive.

Anyway, I don't get why Ryo is such a 'big name' on this forum. The guy is always full of cr*p.

 

[classicomano]

Dont forget Mont Ventoux 2008, he basicly rode the whole peleton off his wheel on his own bar Evans.

 

[Afrank]

Speaking of Dauphiné 2009, also the Mont Ventoux MTF comes to mind where he raced super agressive.

Anyway, I don't get why Ryo is such a 'big name' on this forum. The guy is always full of cr*p.

Ryo just has a lot of posts, that's all it is. Don't expect him to ever be logical when talking about a rider he doesn't like.

 

[Netserk]

Ryo just has a lot of posts, that's all it is. Don't expect him to ever be logical when talking about a rider h̶e̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶k̶e̶.

Fixed that for you

 

[BigMac]

you don't know who ryo hazuki is.

Shenmue.

I honestly enjoy your attitude in the forum, keep going

Honestly.

 

[classicomano]

This sucks. (sorry for google translate)

Robert Gesink is suffering from cardiac arrhythmia
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By: Thijs Zonneveld
15-4-14 - 11:38 Source : AD Sportwereld Robert Gesink .

Robert Gesink is later today that he is next Sunday anyway not at the start of the Amstel Gold Race appears . His program for the coming months is unclear .

Gesink has a problem : stress . Especially in big races , as he stands in the center of the spotlight and the pressure is highest . This is reflected also in physical problems. Gesink has spent the past year repeatedly been found to suffer from his heart, he is sometimes so stressed that stampedes . The heart rhythm problems and the associated panic attacks are the reason he got off during Dutch Championship in 2011 and the Giro d'Italia in 2013 .

Chip in his heart
After the Giro , where his heart runaway hit during the time trial on May 23 , Gesink flew in charge of the team doctor returned to the Netherlands , where he was examined at the hospital . According to various sources within the team a chip at its heart was placed there to keep the rhythm in the eye but a physical cause was not found. It was in his head : it was the pressure , the stress, nervousness . The AD made ​​with the PR department of the Belkin Gesink agreement that would tell about his stress, openly in an interview , but in eleven months proved to be a date to sting . Impossible for

Repeat this season's problems . As long Gesink drive away , in Australia , America or Canada , he has his stress under reasonable control . But in the big races in Europe succeeds a lot less . Last week he got off at the Tour of the Basque Country , again with arrhythmias .

Tonight at 18:00 Gesink give more explanation in a press conference

 

[Kwibus]

Sad news.

Poor guy.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Well, that explains why in big races Gesink suddenly fails. And why he can be in top condition in races in Canada and California...

 

[RedheadDane]

That's a shame.
I hope he'll be able to return, perhaps focusing on the smaller non-European races, but of course his health should come first.

 

[Carols]

Explains a lot! Hope he uses some stress reduction therapies.

 

[movingtarget]

Explains a lot! Hope he uses some stress reduction therapies.

Yes like a heart operation.

 

[Hugo87]

If big races making him suffer from the heart, he needs to stop racing them, you can't play with your health.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Not really. It's in the mind. So no reason to stop. He needs some good proper therapy.

Something that Rabobank/belkin never did properly after his father died. Told you something went wrong after that. He's never been the same

 

[metaCYCLE]

So sorry to hear about this. i wish him a full and speedy recovery. say whatever you want about him but the guy has a ton of talent.

 

[peloton]

Not really. It's in the mind. So no reason to stop. He needs some good proper therapy.

Something that Rabobank/belkin never did properly after his father died. Told you something went wrong after that. He's never been the same

Didn't even think about it, but this makes so much sense now.

Hopefully rest and therapy works and he'll be able to get back to his level.

 

[maltiv]

We've been joking a lot about how Gesink never performs in Europe. To be honest I thought it was just a coincidence really, but clearly not...

I hope he gets the therapy he needs to be able to compete again. Perhaps even taking a year or two off the bike could be a good idea. With his talent, there's always a chance that he can return to his top level as long as he gets his head right.