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This year Vegni made them transfer from Montefalco (stage 10) to Florence (stage 11) and there wasn't really that much complaining, so I guess that they could do it...
I don't really see the point in an earlier visit to Lazio, unless we're talking Terminillo
which is always possible, since we're talking stage 9, before the rest day.
Puglia will be in, so something tells me this Giro will be ridiculously transfer-heavy.
Brullnux said:
This year Vegni made them transfer from Montefalco (stage 10) to Florence (stage 11) and there wasn't really that much complaining, so I guess that they could do it...
I don't really see the point in an earlier visit to Lazio, unless we're talking Terminillo
which is always possible, since we're talking stage 9, before the rest day. Puglia will be in, so something tells me this Giro will be ridiculously transfer-heavy.
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This one is 80km longer, or almost 3 hours long. Montefalco to Florence is only 2 and a bit.mikii4567 said:Brullnux said:
This year Vegni made them transfer from Montefalco (stage 10) to Florence (stage 11) and there wasn't really that much complaining, so I guess that they could do it...
I don't really see the point in an earlier visit to Lazio, unless we're talking Terminillo
Puglia will be in, so something tells me this Giro will be ridiculously transfer-heavy.
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Gigs_98 said:Ridiculously long transfers, a mtf on Etna, a super hard 2nd week finishing with 3 mountain stages of which the last two are a Zoncolan and a Dolomites stage, and then a 3rd week in the western alps? This is 2011 all over again
Let's be real, that would be a bit of an overkill, but maybe they don't want to have another Dumoulin win (he seemed to be rather popular amongs the Italian casual fans and Poopgate only mde him more likeable, so it would be a bit strange).
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Anyway the third mountain stage could be Tre Cime, in italian forums it's some time that they talk about Tre Cime because it's 50 years from Merckx win.
They want to finish at the Sorgenti but they don't know if it's doable because of the narrow road, in case they'll finish in the town of Sappada or at Cima Sappada.mikii4567 said:Looks like Sorgenti del Piave will be in... I'm not an expert in Italian, but they claim that it will be on the second Friday, and precede Zoncolan and the Dolomite stage. Three mountain stages in a row
http://corrierealpi.gelocal.it/bell...talia-2018-alle-sorgenti-del-piave-1.15746884
Anyway the third mountain stage could be Tre Cime, in italian forums it's some time that they talk about Tre Cime because it's 50 years from Merckx win.
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https://www.google.it/maps/@45.8743261,11.0410054,3a,75y,193.6h,71.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY7C0wBhA0w5C_wqjQU8xhA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e4
The MTT could be the one to San Marino if confirmed.
It's a memorial of WWI the Campana dei Caduti, but it's not a real climb, it's only 100 metres higher than Rovereto so a short ramp, that's the end of the road (the Campana is on the right after the gate.Brullnux said:
https://www.google.it/maps/@45.8743261,11.0410054,3a,75y,193.6h,71.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY7C0wBhA0w5C_wqjQU8xhA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e4
The MTT could be the one to San Marino if confirmed.
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This is certainly going to be interesting.
Start in Israel (1-3 stages):
I don't really care much about these three stages. Lets just cross of some stages for the sprinters and I will be fine.
Landing in Italy (Sicily):
I must admit I am a bit surprised Sicily seems to be on the menu again. On the bright side it should ensure Nibalis participation in a starting lineup that almost certainly won't match the one we had this year. Mount Etna is always nice to see but as a cyclingmountain I have to say it has dissapointed me more than once - however as the first MTF it should be useful to some point. In addition I hope they will climb a new side or add a twist of some kind so it won't be exactly the same as this year. The other two stages in Sicily can be stages for sprinters (four of those crossed off).
Transition (7-8)
For these two stages I would like stage 8 to at least be hilly (like this year) simply because it is placed in a weekend. Stage 7 for all it matters can be a sprinters stage.
Appenines (9-10):
I am not that much of a fan of the Terminillo-rumour. As a first MTF I would have liked it but we already seem to get Etna for the kind of "no big action" MTF-stage. I am not too familiar with the surroundings near Terminillo but based on my memory it usually always figure as somewhat a singular mountainstage. There were already 1-2 many of those this year. Stage 10 with Gualdo Tadino combined with the rumour of Monte Catria and Monte Nerone sounds intriguing. Is it possible they could all fit into this one stage?
Stage 11-13:
I have never been a big fan of ITT's and honestly I would like to keep it down to the minimum. Yet compared to another stage for the sprinters I suppose ITT is more fun. Stage 12 for Romagna or Cesenatico? I prefer the latter in memory of Pantani (20 years anniversary for his only official Giro-victory). I prefer stage 13 to be a hilly stage perhaps without the rumoured Sorgenti del Piave. I don't see any action there anyway with a possible really hard back-to-back mountainstageweekend.
High mountains (14-15):
Considering Monte Crostis is not too far away from Sorgenti del Piave one can always dream about its inclusion. Dreams aside for stage 14, I would be more than satisfied if the rumoured double ascent of Zoncolan is realised. As a singular MTF-stage I would be a bit disappointed though - especially considering it could be the third one (Etna and Terminillo the others). Stage 15 - well as long as it takes place in the dolomites I will be happy.
The final week (16-21):
ITT on stage 16 (Trento - Rovereto) - Not much to say. I suppose it is a shame to use the area around Trento for a flat ITT considering the many other opportunities but at least next years giro seems stacked with plenty of mountains. Stage 17 will probably be a transitionstage - one for the break-away or a long awaited chance for the sprinters. I can understand stage 18-20 will highly take place in the western alps (including Aosta) and Piemonte. I imagine maybe the route in order to favour Nibali could end with 2/3 MDF-stages. As other people I hope one of them will be with a finish through Colle San Carlo down to Courmayeur. Another dream could be Sampeyre-Fauniera combo finishing the giro with that reckless downhill. I have a hard time imagining it happen with current focus on race-safety so unfortunately it will probably be replaced by Prato Nevoso or more interesting Lago della Rovina. The stage in the middle rumoured to be with Finestre-Sestriere and Jafferau - thumbs up! The last stage I hope will go to Rome (despite the long transfer). I don't really like the idea of Jerusalem and Israel to begin with but if you do it, the idea from one holy city to another is prefered with Rome rather than an even longer transfer to Mekka or a finish on Ararat
Start in Israel (1-3 stages):
I don't really care much about these three stages. Lets just cross of some stages for the sprinters and I will be fine.
Landing in Italy (Sicily):
I must admit I am a bit surprised Sicily seems to be on the menu again. On the bright side it should ensure Nibalis participation in a starting lineup that almost certainly won't match the one we had this year. Mount Etna is always nice to see but as a cyclingmountain I have to say it has dissapointed me more than once - however as the first MTF it should be useful to some point. In addition I hope they will climb a new side or add a twist of some kind so it won't be exactly the same as this year. The other two stages in Sicily can be stages for sprinters (four of those crossed off).
Transition (7-8)
For these two stages I would like stage 8 to at least be hilly (like this year) simply because it is placed in a weekend. Stage 7 for all it matters can be a sprinters stage.
Appenines (9-10):
I am not that much of a fan of the Terminillo-rumour. As a first MTF I would have liked it but we already seem to get Etna for the kind of "no big action" MTF-stage. I am not too familiar with the surroundings near Terminillo but based on my memory it usually always figure as somewhat a singular mountainstage. There were already 1-2 many of those this year. Stage 10 with Gualdo Tadino combined with the rumour of Monte Catria and Monte Nerone sounds intriguing. Is it possible they could all fit into this one stage?
Stage 11-13:
I have never been a big fan of ITT's and honestly I would like to keep it down to the minimum. Yet compared to another stage for the sprinters I suppose ITT is more fun. Stage 12 for Romagna or Cesenatico? I prefer the latter in memory of Pantani (20 years anniversary for his only official Giro-victory). I prefer stage 13 to be a hilly stage perhaps without the rumoured Sorgenti del Piave. I don't see any action there anyway with a possible really hard back-to-back mountainstageweekend.
High mountains (14-15):
Considering Monte Crostis is not too far away from Sorgenti del Piave one can always dream about its inclusion. Dreams aside for stage 14, I would be more than satisfied if the rumoured double ascent of Zoncolan is realised. As a singular MTF-stage I would be a bit disappointed though - especially considering it could be the third one (Etna and Terminillo the others). Stage 15 - well as long as it takes place in the dolomites I will be happy.
The final week (16-21):
ITT on stage 16 (Trento - Rovereto) - Not much to say. I suppose it is a shame to use the area around Trento for a flat ITT considering the many other opportunities but at least next years giro seems stacked with plenty of mountains. Stage 17 will probably be a transitionstage - one for the break-away or a long awaited chance for the sprinters. I can understand stage 18-20 will highly take place in the western alps (including Aosta) and Piemonte. I imagine maybe the route in order to favour Nibali could end with 2/3 MDF-stages. As other people I hope one of them will be with a finish through Colle San Carlo down to Courmayeur. Another dream could be Sampeyre-Fauniera combo finishing the giro with that reckless downhill. I have a hard time imagining it happen with current focus on race-safety so unfortunately it will probably be replaced by Prato Nevoso or more interesting Lago della Rovina. The stage in the middle rumoured to be with Finestre-Sestriere and Jafferau - thumbs up! The last stage I hope will go to Rome (despite the long transfer). I don't really like the idea of Jerusalem and Israel to begin with but if you do it, the idea from one holy city to another is prefered with Rome rather than an even longer transfer to Mekka or a finish on Ararat
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new local article today. Sappada to be stage 15, the day after Zoncolan. It'll probably be a short stage with a couple of climbs and Forcella di Zovo as last difficulty. Finish will most likely be in the town, and not at the Sorgenti del Piave, for lack of space.
1-3 Israel
4 Catania-Caltagirone
5 Agrigento-Santa Ninfa(Valle del Belice)
6 Caltanissetta-Etna(Osservatorio Astrofisico)
7 ??? - Praia a Mare?
8 ???
9 ???
10 ??? - Gualdo Tadino
11 Fano - Iesi OR Rimini - S.Marino (both ITT)
12 ???
13 ??? - Vittorio Veneto
14 S.Vendemiano - Zoncolan
15 Tolmezzo - Sappada
16 Trento - Rovereto ITT
17 ???
18 ??? - Prato Nevoso (or surroundings)
19 Busca - Monte Jafferau
20 Susa - Cervinia (or somewhere else in Aosta valley)
21 ??? - Milano or Roma
1-3 Israel
4 Catania-Caltagirone
5 Agrigento-Santa Ninfa(Valle del Belice)
6 Caltanissetta-Etna(Osservatorio Astrofisico)
7 ??? - Praia a Mare?
8 ???
9 ???
10 ??? - Gualdo Tadino
11 Fano - Iesi OR Rimini - S.Marino (both ITT)
12 ???
13 ??? - Vittorio Veneto
14 S.Vendemiano - Zoncolan
15 Tolmezzo - Sappada
16 Trento - Rovereto ITT
17 ???
18 ??? - Prato Nevoso (or surroundings)
19 Busca - Monte Jafferau
20 Susa - Cervinia (or somewhere else in Aosta valley)
21 ??? - Milano or Roma
Messaggero Veneto claims that the Zoncolan stage will start in Codroipo, Casarsa or San Vito al Tagliamento, and they'll have four climbs before the MTF, including the Fussea which they used in the 2003 stage, when the Zonc debuted.
As for Sappada, this is the hardest I can get it with a short stage. The mayor confirmed that Mauria would be in.
As for Sappada, this is the hardest I can get it with a short stage. The mayor confirmed that Mauria would be in.
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How reliable are the rumors that the Aosta valley stage starts in Susa? Because if that is really the case, the stage would already be 130 km long before the riders even enter the Aosta valley and it would take even longer before the climbs start.
About the Sappada stage. I would have preferred a dolomites stage, but hey, we had proper dolomites stages the last two years and the Sapped stage sounds cool as well.
About the Sappada stage. I would have preferred a dolomites stage, but hey, we had proper dolomites stages the last two years and the Sapped stage sounds cool as well.
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The Sappada stage could be cool, even if the inclusion of Forcella Zovo still surprises me, it's pretty much a small goattrack.
The could visit Cortina on that stage, that would give us Tre Croci, Passo di San Antonio from the hard side and Forcella Zovo, that would be a pretty awesome stage with a few of my training climbs and right after such a hard MTF, I like it!
The could visit Cortina on that stage, that would give us Tre Croci, Passo di San Antonio from the hard side and Forcella Zovo, that would be a pretty awesome stage with a few of my training climbs and right after such a hard MTF, I like it!
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By no means do I dislike that stagedesign but instead of a stage in the dolomites?
I would have prefered an intense short mountainpacked stage with a mountain downhill finish.
How is Forcella Zovo from a downhill perspecitve? Difficult/easy?
I would have prefered an intense short mountainpacked stage with a mountain downhill finish.
How is Forcella Zovo from a downhill perspecitve? Difficult/easy?
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Edit: heres a profile of the descent: http://www.tutteleprese.it/images/alt_Forcella_zovo_val_visdende.jpg?672
And the first part of the descent is rather narrow:
https://www.google.it/maps/@46.6076...613&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=de
No idea, the first part of the descent is unpaved, so I've never done it on my roadbike, but I've climbed it on my MTB years ago and if my memory is correct the road is rather narrow, maybe I'll find a few pictures.Kyllingen86 said:
Edit: heres a profile of the descent: http://www.tutteleprese.it/images/alt_Forcella_zovo_val_visdende.jpg?672
And the first part of the descent is rather narrow:
https://www.google.it/maps/@46.6076...613&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=de
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No idea, the first part of the descent is unpaved, so I've never done it on my roadbike, but I've climbed it on my MTB years ago and if my memory is correct the road is rather narrow, maybe I'll find a few pictures.
Edit: heres a profile of the descent: http://www.tutteleprese.it/images/alt_Forcella_zovo_val_visdende.jpg?672
And the first part of the descent is rather narrow:
https://www.google.it/maps/@46.6076...613&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=de[/quote]
It looks interesting! I just hope it will be hard enough to test whoever is in the maglia rosa.
[quote
No idea, the first part of the descent is unpaved, so I've never done it on my roadbike, but I've climbed it on my MTB years ago and if my memory is correct the road is rather narrow, maybe I'll find a few pictures.
Edit: heres a profile of the descent: http://www.tutteleprese.it/images/alt_Forcella_zovo_val_visdende.jpg?672
And the first part of the descent is rather narrow:
https://www.google.it/maps/@46.6076...613&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=de[/quote]
It looks interesting! I just hope it will be hard enough to test whoever is in the maglia rosa.
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There have been some confirmations about the last week, with only the Prato Nevoso stage to be still in doubt (as a finish location I mean, the area will definitely host stage 18). Stage 20 is pretty much confirmed to end in Cervinia, either in town (as always) or at a slightly higher location, with 2 km of sterrato at 10% or so. Something that would give better finish pictures but quite irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The route of the stage is still unknown. Same goes for Sappada (finish could be in town or higher, route unknown...). Stage 21 is still claimed to be in Rome, and should almost certainly NOT be a TT.
1-3 Israel
4 Catania-Caltagirone
5 Agrigento-Santa Ninfa(Valle del Belice)
6 Caltanissetta-Etna(Osservatorio Astrofisico)
7 Tropea? - Scalea
8 ???
9 ???
10 Francavilla? - Gualdo Tadino
11 Rimini - S.Marino OR Fano - Iesi (both ITT)
12 ??? - Vicenza?
13 ??? - Vittorio Veneto?
14 S.Vendemiano? - Zoncolan
15 Tolmezzo - Sappada
16 Trento - Rovereto ITT
17 ???
18 ??? - Prato Nevoso (or surroundings)
19 Busca - Monte Jafferau
20 Susa? - Cervinia
21 ??? - Roma
Probably stage 9. According to some recent rumour stage 7 should finish in Scalea, which is at around 180 km from there. Too much transfer in an already transfer-heavy route. There has to be a stage in between.mikii4567 said:
There have been some confirmations about the last week, with only the Prato Nevoso stage to be still in doubt (as a finish location I mean, the area will definitely host stage 18). Stage 20 is pretty much confirmed to end in Cervinia, either in town (as always) or at a slightly higher location, with 2 km of sterrato at 10% or so. Something that would give better finish pictures but quite irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The route of the stage is still unknown. Same goes for Sappada (finish could be in town or higher, route unknown...). Stage 21 is still claimed to be in Rome, and should almost certainly NOT be a TT.
1-3 Israel
4 Catania-Caltagirone
5 Agrigento-Santa Ninfa(Valle del Belice)
6 Caltanissetta-Etna(Osservatorio Astrofisico)
7 Tropea? - Scalea
8 ???
9 ???
10 Francavilla? - Gualdo Tadino
11 Rimini - S.Marino OR Fano - Iesi (both ITT)
12 ??? - Vicenza?
13 ??? - Vittorio Veneto?
14 S.Vendemiano? - Zoncolan
15 Tolmezzo - Sappada
16 Trento - Rovereto ITT
17 ???
18 ??? - Prato Nevoso (or surroundings)
19 Busca - Monte Jafferau
20 Susa? - Cervinia
21 ??? - Roma
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