roundabout said:Campo Imperatore is this
http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/GranSasso.gif
4km of significant racing.
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Giro_Ciclistico_dItalia__2017_Stage_8
And this was Under 23. Still only small gaps.
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roundabout said:Campo Imperatore is this
http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/GranSasso.gif
4km of significant racing.
More like 2 max. Peloton needs to be shredded first.roundabout said:Campo Imperatore is this
http://www.cyclingcols.com/profiles/GranSasso.gif
4km of significant racing.
Kyllingen86 said:True but I thought like in 1999 it had to be an extension - so it look like this:
http://www.climbbybike.com/profile/Gran_Sasso_dItalia_Assergi_profile.gif
Brullnux said:Different era. Gaps are smaller on longer climbs nowadays, or at least they were last year (apart from oropa and blokhaus).
The Finestre stage are always a flat run until the foot of the climb, the fact they added a climb is already a big news, the problem is that they put it in the wrong place.Red Rick said:Incredibly likely it would be Finestre-Sestriere-Jafferau. I for sure hope they throw something in before the Finestre, but it's a combination that is incredibly dependent on the racing situation. If there's a break ahead with strong domestiques and people need to attack from far out, it's likely that a lot will happen on the Finestre.Sestriere said:roundabout said:gregrowlerson said:If it's 60kms from the start of the climb, then that's close enough to matter. 60kms from the top would be too far away though.
60 km from the top
Edit: probably closer to 70 if counting to the finish line
Something has to happen on the Finestre, it's just too hard in my opinion. 18.5 km @ 9.2 %, half of it sterrato. Col de Portet suddenly looks rather cute in this context.
There's not much to put directly before it, except for the Mont Cenis, which means an approach from France. There's a climb called Col San Giovanni (Colle del Lys) but it's really shitty from the side you'd climb.Valv.Piti said:Yeah well, I mean I think everyone prefers it over this variation which isn't that good really. Which obviously still is untrue, but, you know.. Its is ceiling sky-high, but with the next day in mind its hard to see the race absolutely explode there. It could still be a more than good stage if he doesnt tho.
What are the other options for Finestre?
Valv.Piti said:Yeah well, I mean I think everyone prefers it over this variation which isn't that good really. Which obviously still is untrue, but, you know.. Its is ceiling sky-high, but with the next day in mind its hard to see the race absolutely explode there. It could still be a more than good stage if he doesnt tho.
What are the other options for Finestre?
Nirvana said:The Finestre stage are always a flat run until the foot of the climb, the fact they added a climb is already a big news, the problem is that they put it in the wrong place.
With Finistre the finish on Sestriere should be mandatory like the Aprica one with Mortirolo.
I disagree, it's the 3rd consecutive mountain stage and the final mountain stage, Saint Panthaleon is a good climb and with an even better one before it we could see action before the final climb, as the final mountain stage after a long mountain stage and the steep Jafferau MTF with Fininestre in the same stage it's actually a good stage, I like it.Brullnux said:Uninspiring. Maybe the fact it's the last stage will force something on Saint Panthaleon, which is a decently hard climb. But I doubt it.
I'm a natural pessimist, by the way.Mayomaniac said:I disagree, it's the 3rd consecutive mountain stage and the final mountain stage, Saint Panthaleon is a good climb and with an even better one before it we could see action before the final climb, as the final mountain stage after a long mountain stage and the steep Jafferau MTF with Fininestre in the same stage it's actually a good stage, I like it.Brullnux said:Uninspiring. Maybe the fact it's the last stage will force something on Saint Panthaleon, which is a decently hard climb. But I doubt it.
Kind of agree. It's a very long stage too, riders will pay for the previous efforts.Mayomaniac said:I disagree, it's the 3rd consecutive mountain stage and the final mountain stage, Saint Panthaleon is a good climb and with an even better one before it we could see action before the final climb, as the final mountain stage after a long mountain stage and the steep Jafferau MTF with Fininestre in the same stage it's actually a good stage, I like it.