Giro 2018 Route Rumours

[Nirvana]

I am pretty sure they will include Vittorio Veneto and other parts linked to the Great War. Maybe even finish there like in 1988. At the same time I cannot imagine stages in Croatia.

If they go to Sicily I'd love to have a real hard medium mountain stage on parts of Targa Florio or into Monti Iblei, but please no Etna at all.

Vegni said that the finish won't be in Vittorio Veneto but a stage i think it's almost sure.

 

[RattaKuningas]

I hope that they climb Mortirolo from the right side (steep one) but this is probably not going to happen next year because they used this climb this year.

 

[Gigs_98]

Any chance of Crostis before double Zoncolan? That would make the most nightmarish 3 back to back climbs in gt history

 

[Red Rick]

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

 

[Gigs_98]

Re:

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

Well, I think something like this would be a pretty cool way to start the last week:

 

[Valv.Piti]

Thats Crostis, Zonc Ovaro, Zonc Priola (?) and then what?

 

[May0maniac]

Re:

Thats Crostis, Zonc Ovaro, Zonc Priola (?) and then what?

That should be Forcella di Lius

 

[DFA123]

The day I get to see Prelaz Vrsic, Zoncolan and Crostis in the same stage, I think I'll retire from watching cycling. To paraphrase Alexander the Great, there would simply be no more worlds left to conquer.

 

[luckyboy]

Zoncolan should be in the 100th Giro, but thank god it will be back next year.

Hopefully they remember that hill stages exist, and some from Finestre/Fedaia/sterrato stage would be a dream.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

Well, I think something like this would be a pretty cool way to start the last week:

Introduce Crostis, and make it irrelevant. If anything has been clear in recent years, is that races of attrition don't necessarily lead to better racing.

 

[klintE]

This!

 

[portugal11]

2011 giro is probably the best designed route i ever seen. We had sterratto, punchy finishes, brutal climbs, mythical climbs, unfortunately we hadn't crostis's descent and a good amount of time trials

 

[Eshnar]

Re:

2011 giro is probably the best designed route i ever seen. We had sterratto, punchy finishes, brutal climbs, mythical climbs, unfortunately we hadn't crostis's descent and a good amount of time trials

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

2011 giro is probably the best designed route i ever seen. We had sterratto, punchy finishes, brutal climbs, mythical climbs, unfortunately we hadn't crostis's descent and a good amount of time trials

It's true, I don't remember a good amount of TT either. There was nevegal and the Milan one only, no?

 

[portugal11]

Re: Re:

2011 giro is probably the best designed route i ever seen. We had sterratto, punchy finishes, brutal climbs, mythical climbs, unfortunately we hadn't crostis's descent and a good amount of time trials

We had the TTT and the ITT in milano

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

Well, I think something like this would be a pretty cool way to start the last week:

Introduce Crostis, and make it irrelevant. If anything has been clear in recent years, is that races of attrition don't necessarily lead to better racing.

Then again we haven't seen such a stage with 3 super steep climbs like that in a row. I'd honestly be surprised if this wouldn't lead to a great stage. At least from the 2nd Zoncolan onwards the riders should be all over the road.

 

[OlavEH]

I'm hoping for:

- A Dolomite stage with 5000 height meters and Giau and/or Fedaia as a decisive point.
- A Mortirolo-Aprica or a Finestre-Sestriere stage. Or perhaps San Pellegrino in Alpe-Abetone.
- And perhaps a tough mountain stage around Rovereto/Trento using climbs like Bondone, Bordala, Sommo, Baldo
- And of course 2-3 tough medium mountain stages in the first two weeks.

 

[Eshnar]

Re: Re:

2011 giro is probably the best designed route i ever seen. We had sterratto, punchy finishes, brutal climbs, mythical climbs, unfortunately we hadn't crostis's descent and a good amount of time trials

We had the TTT and the ITT in milano

19 km TTT
13 km MTT
26 km ITT

58 km total, only 39 individual, only 26 flat. Not nearly enough in any Giro, let alone in one of the most mountain heavy editions ever.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

Well, I think something like this would be a pretty cool way to start the last week:

Introduce Crostis, and make it irrelevant. If anything has been clear in recent years, is that races of attrition don't necessarily lead to better racing.

Then again we haven't seen such a stage with 3 super steep climbs like that in a row. I'd honestly be surprised if this wouldn't lead to a great stage. At least from the 2nd Zoncolan onwards the riders should be all over the road.

At least from the 2nd Zoncolan onwards. You achieve the same thing with going up the Zoncolan once. The rest ends up being a gimmick, probably neutralizing action on any important stages before this. So the extra Crostis and Zoncolan have little purpose beyond attrition and gimmicks. For some attrition, might as well use other climbs that are more feasibly. And I hate gimmicks.

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

2011 giro is probably the best designed route i ever seen. We had sterratto, punchy finishes, brutal climbs, mythical climbs, unfortunately we hadn't crostis's descent and a good amount of time trials

We had the TTT and the ITT in milano

19 km TTT
13 km MTT
26 km ITT

58 km total, only 39 individual, only 26 flat. Not nearly enough in any Giro, let alone in one of the most mountain heavy editions ever.

Which is why portugal11 wrote that we unfortunately didn't have a good amount of TT kilometers...at least I think thats what he meant

 

[Valv.Piti]

Re: Re:

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

Well, I think something like this would be a pretty cool way to start the last week:

Introduce Crostis, and make it irrelevant. If anything has been clear in recent years, is that races of attrition don't necessarily lead to better racing.

Then again we haven't seen such a stage with 3 super steep climbs like that in a row. I'd honestly be surprised if this wouldn't lead to a great stage. At least from the 2nd Zoncolan onwards the riders should be all over the road.

At least from the 2nd Zoncolan onwards. You achieve the same thing with going up the Zoncolan once. The rest ends up being a gimmick, probably neutralizing action on any important stages before this. So the extra Crostis and Zoncolan have little purpose beyond attrition and gimmicks. For some attrition, might as well use other climbs that are more feasibly. And I hate gimmicks.

Nah, you just cut the last climb and finish in the bottom of the 2nd Zonc.

 

[Red Rick]

That last climb is the only original idea I actually like about the stage.

 

[Forever The Best]

Re: Re:

I already hate the double Zoncolan idea.

If you're gonna go up and down the Crostis, just use a different finishing climb.

Well, I think something like this would be a pretty cool way to start the last week:

Pff, ppl still using Imgur
Joking, it is only blocked in my country

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Prefer Kraków to Wrocław of the Polish options, would be able to do a TT, then a hilly stage somewhere like Bukowina Tatrzańska, Limanowa or Zakopane (even Bielsko-Biała) then back to somewhere in the Katowice urban chain before transferring back to Italy. From Wrocław I suspect best possibility would be a stage to Karpacz.

 

[BlackWhiteEagle]

Re:

Prefer Kraków to Wrocław of the Polish options, would be able to do a TT, then a hilly stage somewhere like Bukowina Tatrzańska, Limanowa or Zakopane (even Bielsko-Biała) then back to somewhere in the Katowice urban chain before transferring back to Italy. From Wrocław I suspect best possibility would be a stage to Karpacz.

Well, you can have a great TT in Wrocław too. Many times i have thought about a route for a Wrocław TT for TdP and i figured something like Town Square-City Stadium-Town Square would be pretty good. And while Karpacz is really the best option they could also use the Kłodzko Valley for one stage. Or maybe something like Wrocław TT, Opole - Kraków/Upper Silesian Industrial Region and then the suggested hilly stage to Bukowina. Just please don`t let Czesław Lang design it .