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Giro d'Italia Giro d‘Italia 2024 Stage 15, Manerba del Garda-Livigno (Mottolino), 222 km

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I think Bardet finishing ahead of the other GC cosplayers is prett good evidence the pace behind was really low, considering Bardet probably isnt among the best 5 climbers in the race

The 6.0 W/kg isnt that interesting, whats more interestong is the numbers before amd after the attack. Overall the gap does clearly blow up because of overall fatigue
 
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Look at the differences in the VAM mate. I told you, and it was a perfomance in a stage with a high pace (high KJ) after the famous TT where Vingegaard destroyed Pogacar.

He would had won with a good margin today, but i repeat, Pogacar still did a good perfomance today.

You can also look at the VAM on Col du Granon.
Almost the same watts estimate with worse pacing, c‘mon man, Loze just isn‘t Vinge‘s best performance, at least say that or some other excuse instead of borderline trolling.
 
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Look at the differences in the VAM mate. I told you, and it was a perfomance in a stage with a high pace (high KJ) after the famous TT where Vingegaard destroyed Pogacar.

He would had won with a good margin today, but i repeat, Pogacar still did a good perfomance today.

You can also look at the VAM on Col du Granon.
The profile says it all lol
 
Almost the same watts estimate with worse pacing, c‘mon man, Loze just isn‘t Vinge‘s best performance, at least say that or some other excuse instead of borderline trolling.
Loze was very much affected by the peloton doing the climbs at a higher pace than the break, plus sample is the last half hour of a >hour climb.

Time gaps to opposition are a much fairer point to compare
 
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Crazy beautiful stage today, just managed to catch up on the replay

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Loze was very much affected by the peloton doing the climbs at a higher pace than the break, plus sample is the last half hour of a >hour climb.

Time gaps to opposition are a much fairer point to compare
Nah, clearly Loze Gall would have been up there fighting for the win today. :cool:

But yeah, for a long time VPP was pacing and Arensman didn't start riding hard for Thomas until near the end of Foscagno.

Still, the difference between Pogacar's speed and the chasing group was crazy.
 
Crazy beautiful stage today, just managed to catch up on the replay

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The twitter account does know that you always burn the same amount of KJ when doing a climb, no matter the tempo, right? Because actually going for KJ/H would show more of the actual fatigue that got put in the legs.

IMO just posting KJ burned on a climb is a worthless statistic, you either do it properly or stick with W/KG.
 
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The twitter account does know that you always burn the same amount of KJ when doing a climb, no matter the tempo, right? Because actually going for KJ/H would show more of the actual fatigue that got put in the legs.

IMO just posting KJ burned on a climb is a worthless statistic, you either do it properly or stick with W/KG.
The big unknown is the difference on being in certain zones for certain periods, like if they literally would average everything out it would just be *** annoying upper zone 2 *** and the damage would be much less

I also seem to remember Mortiro and even Crocedomini going faster in 2022 before they did 6.2 for 35 minutes on Santa Cristina