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Giro d’Italia 2024, Stage 16: Livigno – Santa Cristina Valgardena/Sankt Christina in Gröden (Monte Pana), 202.0k 206.0k

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Semi-related question: does anyone know what would happen to the Cima Coppi if Umbrail is scrapped? The second-highest summit of the race was yesterday, would they award it to the highest remaining summit (Passo Sella on Wednesday) or scrap it entirely?

In 2019, Cima Coppi was changed (from Gavia) to the highest remaining climb (Manghen), not the second highest (Lago Serrù).

They have now confirmed this to be the case this year as well:

"The Cima Coppi will be set on the Passo Sella (2,244 metres). The first rider clearing the summit will receive the Cima Coppi prize, and the stage winner will receive the Premio Torriani."

As Passo Sella is normally only a category 2 climb, this comes with a significant point boost (50 instead of 18) for the early part of tomorrow's stage.
 
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Nothing is as fun as watching the field be the worst in the WT stage races
Ok, this is the 3rd week in cold and wet conditions against Pogacar, so we have to be understandable that it looks really bad. People look very good on 1 week races but when they go to a GT, they have a tendency to weaken and ride very defensive. Just look at last year. It was just awful with Roglic and Thomas there.
 
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Maybe I didn't write that post properly but I'm basically 'spelling out' how it should be, aka the ideal set-up for these types of problems.

I don't know exactly what went down in Italy today (I can't be bothered to siphon through all the blame game on social media tonight) but in an 'ideal world' there needs to be an independent organism with credibility & authority which can come up with a literal scientific yes or no regarding the practicability of the racing conditions. That means IMO getting guys out there in racing gear to do a test run on the road.
On Spanish language Eurosport, in studio were Pedro Delgado and Juan Antonio Flecha, neither had a negative opinion about race changes, in the field was Alberto Contador, standing near proposed finish area and some fat,slushy snow coming down, don't know if it was live, or when video was taken. Note that it was not sticking to the ground, similar to this..
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JZf53pKSyo4&pp=ygUKR2lybyByZWNhcA%3D%3D
 
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Maybe I didn't write that post properly but I'm basically 'spelling out' how it should be, aka the ideal set-up for these types of problems.

I don't know exactly what went down in Italy today (I can't be bothered to siphon through all the blame game on social media tonight) but in an 'ideal world' there needs to be an independent organism with credibility & authority which can come up with a literal scientific yes or no regarding the practicability of the racing conditions. That means IMO getting guys out there in racing gear to do a test run on the road.
I see what you’re saying - I agree.
 
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Maybe I didn't write that post properly but I'm basically 'spelling out' how it should be, aka the ideal set-up for these types of problems.

I don't know exactly what went down in Italy today (I can't be bothered to siphon through all the blame game on social media tonight) but in an 'ideal world' there needs to be an independent organism with credibility & authority which can come up with a literal scientific yes or no regarding the practicability of the racing conditions. That means IMO getting guys out there in racing gear to do a test run on the road.
The UCI should hire riders to explore the conditions, instead of leaving it up to race organizations to make the call, which goes against their interests. Still, even then, there will be biases towards the cyclists. Think of the liability in today's litigations. How I miss when riders just got on with it and didn't expect to be pampered.
 
Really, I see some of the best Italian GC-riders of that time. I thought it had something to do with the route which is probably the worst GT-route I have seen, or at least very, very close to it.
It was a very shallow field regardless of that awful route, though. Simoni was on the same team as Cunego and their internal rivalry was the only thing of real interest, Garzelli was good but Belli hadn't been a credible threat in half a decade, Cioni would never come even close to replicating that, Popovych would be a domestique for the rest of his career, and Bradley McGee being 8th was used as a meme for races with terrible routes or fields for a number of years afterward.
 
It was a very shallow field regardless of that awful route, though. Simoni was on the same team as Cunego and their internal rivalry was the only thing of real interest, Garzelli was good but Belli hadn't been a credible threat in half a decade, Cioni would never come even close to replicating that, Popovych would be a domestique for the rest of his career, and Bradley McGee being 8th was used as a meme for races with terrible routes or fields for a number of years afterward.
Not bad for a clean rider, though.