Giro d’Italia 2024, Stage 16: Livigno – Santa Cristina Valgardena/Sankt Christina in Gröden (Monte Pana), 202.0k 206.0k

[Brullnux]

Ahahahahaha Blythe: "the stage should be cancelled in its entirety".

The valley is like 15 degrees, Monte Pana is 10 degrees. It barely snows there in winter ffs

 

[Jungle Cycle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1792845273305141415

View: https://x.com/friebos/status/1792845273305141415

 

[Netserk]

It's a riders vote and has nothing to do with Hansen other than someone has to liase between RCS and the riders representatives in the peloton deciding a decision to remove the danger gets voted on. As far as i'm aware 100% of the peloton voted.

It's a race, not a democracy. It's a completely meaningless vote. The rulebook has no passage that states that the route is up to a vote by the riders.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

Ahahahahaha Blythe: "the stage should be cancelled in its entirety".

The valley is like 15 degrees, Monte Pana is 10 degrees. It barely snows there in winter ffs

Hopefully someone can tell Blythe it has indeed been cancelled and he can go back to the hotel

 

[YavorD]

If Adam Hansen was around in 2016 kruijsvijk would be a giro winner

He was in that Giro though..

 

[memyselfandI]

Rumours:

Neutral start will be ridden, then the riders will get in the cars and drive until after Umbrail.

Even this is absolutely ridiculous, just to get yourself wet and climb to the car.

 

[Brullnux]

Even this is absolutely ridiculous, just to get yourself wet and climb to the car.

It's ridiculous only because RCS negotiate their contracts terribly. Losing the money of a mountain stage next year is crippling for RCS, and they've somehow negotiated themselves into this situation.

 

[Salvarani]

What a farce

Can they make Blythe ride the Umbrail pass at least? Either him alone or the riders. I would be quite pleased with that arrangement.

 

[Arked]

It should be decided yesterday that they start from the valley. Now it's a shitshow. Descending in these conditions is out of question. Dangerous for everyone involved, not only riders but also motorbikes etc.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Ahahahahaha Blythe: "the stage should be cancelled in its entirety".

The valley is like 15 degrees, Monte Pana is 10 degrees. It barely snows there in winter ffs

To be fair, Blythe probably thinks that means that Monte Pana is 10 degrees colder than in the valley.

 

[AmRacer]

Even this is absolutely ridiculous, just to get yourself wet and climb to the car.

wet yourself

 

[QueenStagiaire]

I think it‘s pretty clear that the weather as it‘s turned out now (snow in Livigno) is not weather you should ride in, so good outcome for the riders. This is I think significantly worse than forecast.

 

[Lui98]

According to Umberto Martini (Rai) the riders will start from Livigno on their bikes until the tunnel and then they will get on the team buses. The race then will officially depart from Prato allo Stelvio.

 

[Brullnux]

I think it is too cold to race, the snowline is like 1800m so they're riding over snowed roads and then descending at below freezing for hour +. The agreement yesterday worked if the weather had turned out four or five degrees warmer with rain instead of snow, but this does fall under EWP.

 

[Mayomaniac]

RCS is incompetent, spineless and lacks real backup plans for their high altitude changes.

We should postpone the Giro 1-2 weeks, but the UCI is against it because then ASO cries "muh Dauphine"...

 

[Netserk]

I think it‘s pretty clear that the weather as it‘s turned out now (snow in Livigno) is not weather you should ride in, so good outcome for the riders. This is I think significantly worse than forecast.

It's a question of grip. Can they safely descend down to Bormio? If so, they should ride at least so far.

 

[Brullnux]

RCS is incompetent, spineless and lacks real backup plans for their high altitude changes.

We should postpone the Giro 1-2 weeks, but the UCI is against it because then ASO cries "muh Dauphine"...

I think like you said a few days ago, they allocate risks and responsibilities so badly.

 

[Jungle Cycle]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1792852779553214535

View: https://x.com/inrng/status/1792852779553214535

 

[Mayomaniac]

I mean, if the snowline is that low and ice might form on the road on the Umbrail pass you have an actual problem. Still, let's not pretend that the Adam Hansen crew wouldn't have tried the same if it was just cold and rainy...

 

[tobydawq]

I mean, if the snowline is that low and ice might form on the road on the Umbrail pass you have an actual problem. Still, let's not pretend that the Adam Hansen crew wouldn't have tried the same if it was just cold and rainy...

That's hardly a good argument.

 

[Brullnux]

I mean, if the snowline is that low and ice might form on the road on the Umbrail pass you have an actual problem. Still, let's not pretend that the Adam Hansen crew wouldn't have tried the same if it was just cold and rainy...

I think the end decision is a fair one, the weather is a lot worse that forecast. Riding for 20km in the snow and then descending is a bit risky, too.

 

[Froome]

Start the stage as normal. If no one shows up, no one finishes the race. It's over.

If a single team shows up, we have a race.

Indeed.

 

[Lui98]

I mean, if the snowline is that low and ice might form on the road on the Umbrail pass you have an actual problem. Still, let's not pretend that the Adam Hansen crew wouldn't have tried the same if it was just cold and rainy...

I agree with the highlighted part, but honestly in this case I would say that their demands look justified. So I think that they made the right choice

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

LMAO they're really riding through Munt la Schera?

Guess I'm a massive idiot, would've never thought that would happen, was just about to post why not lol

 

[Mayomaniac]

That's hardly a good argument.

We have multiple precedents for that kind of behavior, so it's not far fetched to assume that.